That's what I said pages ago, and you called me dumb and stupid.


Got to love the HB boards.
- burn

No I didnt call you stupid and dumb...I believe had I, I would have been warned or banned.
I said you using but he has no experience blah blah blah and not going with Exelby...was just being stupid.

Of course.

Edit: And it's wise not to expect it.
- The Law

Agreed..... but they don't even have to "produce" to cover Raymond's playoffs production do they??? And they'd bring more defense and grit too.

James Mirtle @mirtle
Finland up 3-0 already on Norway. Their goal differential is going to be just fine.


That loser gotta have Corsi /goal differential or some ridiculous stat to tell him how the games are going.....

which is what they'd be if they moved Raymond.....
- burn

But Raymond provides better offense overall (yes he slumps).
Also, raymond can play on the second line if one of our top 6 gets injured.
that's the only thing we've been saying

No I didnt call you stupid and dumb...I believe had I, I would have been warned or banned.
I said you using but he has no experience blah blah blah and not going with Exelby...was just being stupid.
- Fakepartofme

Agreed..... but they don't even have to "produce" to cover Raymond's playoffs production do they??? And they'd bring more defense and grit too.
- burn

So what are their NHL playoff scoring numbers?

Raymond is having a better offensive year this year than I think he ever has in Vancouver. Who's to say his playoff numbers wont improve?

Who's with Bolland and Kulemin?
- The Law

Holland??? Smith?? D'Amigo?? McClemment??? Bodie??

Agreed..... but they don't even have to "produce" to cover Raymond's playoffs production do they??? And they'd bring more defense and grit too.
- burn

Ray-Bol-Kul is better than ??-Bol-Kul

Add to that the risk of injury to Lupul or another top6 winger and I just think you need to keep him around.

But Raymond provides better offense overall (yes he slumps).
Also, raymond can play on the second line if one of our top 6 gets injured.
that's the only thing we've been saying
- Fakepartofme

No he doesn't...... and so can others.

So what are their NHL playoff scoring numbers?

Raymond is having a better offensive year this year than I think he ever has in Vancouver. Who's to say his playoff numbers wont improve?
- Fakepartofme

Bank on it.

Ray-Bol-Kul is better than ??-Bol-Kul

Add to that the risk of injury to Lupul or another top6 winger and I just think you need to keep him around.
- The Law

Kulemin doing just fine when he was top 6. Same with Smith Same with Holland.


Raymond on that line kills it as to playing match up. I dont want raymond (tissue paper) out there against the other teams top players.

Holland??? Smith?? D'Amigo?? McClemment??? Bodie??
- burn

I want to win some playoff games. IMHO, McLement needs to be the 4th line centre, D'Amigo and Smith are a big downgrade, and Bodie, Holland and Ashton are nicer on the 4th line wings and/or pressbox.

Just for fun.

Team Canada 2 (with remaining players)

Hall - Giroux - Iginla
Neal - Thornton - Couture
Seguin - E. Staal - Mackinnon
Johansen - Spezza - Eberle

Giordano - Phaneuf
Fowler - Seabrook
Green - Garrison

Bernier
MA Fleury
Scrivens
- ILoveLamp

I think you could make 3 teams, and compete with all, no problem.

I want to win some playoff games. IMHO, McLement needs to be the 4th line centre, D'Amigo and Smith are a big downgrade, and Bodie, Holland and Ashton are nicer on the 4th line wings and/or pressbox.
- The Law

Holland isn't a 4th liner. I don't see any issue taking out Raymond and putting any of those guys in there instead.

No he doesn't...... and so can others.
- burn

Maybe Holland..that's it!
Yes he does.

Kulemin doing just fine when he was top 6. Same with Smith Same with Holland.


Raymond on that line kills it as to playing match up. I dont want raymond (tissue paper) out there against the other teams top players.
- burn

Kulemin had a couple of good games on the second line....so has Raymond

Bank on it.
- burn

And what exactly is being banked?

What's the difference?? The lack or experience was the reason given.


Let him play for the last 20 games and settle in. Hell Holland has been sold when given a chance.
- burn

10 points in 31 games between two of the top wingers in the NHL and he was solid?

That screams he's not ready.

I love my shiny new toy mommy.
- burn

James Mirtle @mirtle
Finland up 3-0 already on Norway. Their goal differential is going to be just fine.


That loser gotta have Corsi /goal differential or some ridiculous stat to tell him how the games are going.....
- Fruitcakenipple

isnt the just referring to how goal differential is one of the tie breakers?

Holland isn't a 4th liner. I don't see any issue taking out Raymond and putting any of those guys in there instead.
- burn

Well we've nuanced this fine debate into it's finest detail and we didn't swear or get banned! We'll have to agree to disagree as to whether Holland et al. are better suited to the role of playoff 3rd line winger (2nd line substitute) then is Raymond.

The perfect outcome for both of us would be to trade Raymond for better 3rd line option. Some playoff team who needs scoring and has an abundance of checkers may be out there .....Kings?

No he doesn't...... and so can others.
- burn

Yeah he does. Its plainly obvious. Second and third line minutes and puts up twice the points vs first line minutes and linemates.

He got his chance. He's not ready.

isnt the just referring to how goal differential is one of the tie breakers?
- senstroll

Means squat...All Canada has to do it beat the Finn's sunday...Winning is the plan isn't it??

Holland isn't a 4th liner. I don't see any issue taking out Raymond and putting any of those guys in there instead.
- burn

Nope. He's not. He's not ready for the NHL at all.

Means squat...All Canada has to do it beat the Finn's sunday...Winning is the plan isn't it??
- Fruitcakenipple

It probably means something to Finland

any why do you follow someone you think is a loser?

Means squat...All Canada has to do it beat the Finn's sunday...Winning is the plan isn't it??
- Fruitcakenipple

4 - 0 within 15:13 to go in the 2nd. I think they are doing fine.