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striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 9:41 AM ET
Moulson may be on Anaheim's target list as well but not certain they give up Ottawa's 1st to get Moulson. Maybe.

Ek has the Nucks at or near the front of the pack for Moulson. Not sure what they give up to get Moulson. Gillis needs to stop trading picks & keep stocking the prospect pipeline. Maybe they move a Dman, Tanev? Can't see Buffalo wanting Edler, plays a very similiar game to Ehrhoff but possibly if Edler would accept a trade to Buffalo as he has a no trade clause. Gillis said he's not giving up anything of value to get a rental so it would have to be a trade & sign scenario & other assets would most likely move as well.

Not saying a straight up trade either. I think Vancouver is better off to approach Edler in the off season & express to him his best before date in Vancouver has come & auction him off to the highest bidder.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 9:43 AM ET
I gotta feel like if you could get a first for hemmer he'd be gone.

I'd love to see him go to a contender but I feel like a bubble team would give up a bit more for him.

Even if we keep him and try to gain confidence through the last quarter of the season he's definitely gone in the offseason.

- Morris


Hemsky should garner a 2nd from a contender. I can't see a team paying a 1st for what Hemsky has shown over the last few seasons. Pittsburgh doesn't have 2014's but could push it to 2015.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 9:58 AM ET
I thought I read(red) somewhere that they would be willing to deal both.

I want Buffalo to go after that Ottawa pick hard.

- ImThatGuy


Anaheim could certainy afford to move all their picks, their 1st, Ottawa's 1st, their 2nd.

They have prospects/very young players at every position both playing in the NHL, AHL, university & junior. Even with Koivu, Selanne & Penner all potential retiring or moving on as UFA's they have tons of kids to fill these roster spots. I could see Koivu signing a 1 year deal.

Etem can't even crack the roster. Palmieri, Silverberg, Beleskey, Winnik, Selanne & Perreault have been roatating in & out of the line up so bit players, depth players like Maroon; 40 games, & Jackman; 19 games, can get icetime.

Anaheim already expended Holland; 1st round pick 15th overall in 09, to Toronto for Jesse Blacker Tor's 3rd & 7th this season. Good trade for both teams.

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 10:06 AM ET
Moulson may be on Anaheim's target list as well but not certain they give up Ottawa's 1st to get Moulson. Maybe.

Ek has the Nucks at or near the front of the pack for Moulson. Not sure what they give up to get Moulson. Gillis needs to stop trading picks & keep stocking the prospect pipeline. Maybe they move a Dman, Tanev? Can't see Buffalo wanting Edler, plays a very similiar game to Ehrhoff but possibly if Edler would accept a trade to Buffalo as he has a no trade clause. Gillis said he's not giving up anything of value to get a rental so it would have to be a trade & sign scenario & other assets would most likely move as well.

Not saying a straight up trade either. I think Vancouver is better off to approach Edler in the off season & express to him his best before date in Vancouver has come & auction him off to the highest bidder.

- striker777


Moulson for Ottawas first and cap dump (Penner)
Daddichronic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: T.
Joined: 01.13.2014

Feb 14 @ 10:16 AM ET
Don't watch too many Oiler games, but I seen the Devils/Oilers game. Yakupov's play when he didn't have the puck is laziest thing. He would just stand there like the whistle had gone while play was going on.
I feel for Eakins because he is supposed to find a way to get him going.

If I was the Oilers, I would sell high now.

- flipneil

dont let an oilers fan see this..there convinced hes the next ovechkin mixed in with some pavel bure and kovalchuk
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 14 @ 10:18 AM ET
dont let an oilers fan see this..there convinced hes the next ovechkin mixed in with some pavel bure and kovalchuk
- Daddichronic

Yeah, let's invent imaginary oilers fans to criticize! That'll show em.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 10:22 AM ET
Yeah, let's invent imaginary oilers fans to criticize! That'll show em.
- Morris


Sabres fans are made up to share teh views of Garth, so at least you dont have that.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Feb 14 @ 10:24 AM ET
Eklund: Rumor Update: On Vanek, Ladd, Yakupov, Gagner, and Byfuglien
- Eklund

The Oils had their chance to take Murray, they can keep Nail.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 10:25 AM ET
Moulson for Ottawas first and cap dump (Penner)
- ImThatGuy


They don't even have to dump salary. Anaheim can take on up 8.6 million in annual salary at the deadline. If a player moves off the roster it will be a young player.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 14 @ 10:28 AM ET
2 years? Yes, I would say it will take 2 years until he reaches pull potential
- GioRock

I hit this in my teens.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 10:31 AM ET
They don't even have to dump salary. Anaheim can take on up 8.6 million in annual salary at the deadline. If a player moves off the roster it will be a young player.
- striker777


Forgot about pro-rated at deadline.
They will most likely move Hiller too, IMO.

They can essentially add Moulson + another quality $5+MM player giving up 2 firsts.
Nonsense!

They also have over $21MM in cap space going into next year with all major pieces signed. They will most liekly bring up Etem and Noesen, which is less than $2MM in salary cap.

Man, they are sitting pretty right now.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 14 @ 10:31 AM ET
Just a BIT of bias there, eh?
- MaximumBone

From him? Never. Not a homer at all
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 10:40 AM ET
Nurse should develop into a top 4D in the next 3 years. Physically he is already there. The management just need to get some quality vets to surround the kids. Guys like Callahan, Girardi and Bolland should be your targets this summer. Also, Gagner and Hemsky should be traded.
- Habsody


I doubt Girardi or Callahan make it to July 1st. They will either be retained in NYR or it will become a trade & sign scenario.

I think Toronto would love to retain Bolland but with only 21 million in cap space for next season & 10 players to sign, they would only be able to fit him in if he accepts a home town discount. Which is possible. Bolland's particular skill set is highly sought after & teams will willingly pay him 4.5 mil plus on a 3 to 5 year deal. Crazy yes but he brings a ton of intengables to the ice.

Hemsky will get traded but I hope Edmonton retains Gagner. They have no other C currently in the system other than Arcobello that can take 2nd line minutes & I'm not sure I like that trade off.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 14 @ 10:42 AM ET
murray is going to be a stud. columbus coveted him so badly that howson even turned down the islander's whole draft to move back only 2 spots when snow offered it. at least i think that report was true.
- rangerdanger94

Rumour
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 14 @ 10:44 AM ET
Rumour
- Cptmjl


Sorry buddy but its not http://www.cbc.ca/sports-...ts-draft-picks-trade.html

By Elliotte Friedman, so I believe it
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 14 @ 10:45 AM ET
dont let an oilers fan see this..there convinced hes the next ovechkin mixed in with some pavel bure and kovalchuk
- Daddichronic

This is why people have trouble being happy for Leafs fans.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
Forgot about pro-rated at deadline.
They will most likely move Hiller too, IMO.

They can essentially add Moulson + another quality $5+MM player giving up 2 firsts.
Nonsense!

They also have over $21MM in cap space going into next year with all major pieces signed. They will most liekly bring up Etem and Noesen, which is less than $2MM in salary cap.

Man, they are sitting pretty right now.

- ImThatGuy


They will be a power house for years to come. Young team once Koivu & Selanne move on with studs coming at every position, Lindholm & Fowlwer at D, Gibson, Fasth & Andersson in net, the 8 forward prospects mentioned previously & young players like Bonino & Sbisa with everyone else under 30 & Getzlaf & Perry just hitting their primes. That may be the best prospect pipeline in the NHL by volume & quality. StL wins on pure quality but not as many coming as Anaheim. I don't consider Hall, Eberle or Gagner to be prospects any longer. Yak & Schultz sure as well as several of the Dman.

Can't see them moving Hiller now. I see them trading him after the season ends but before UFA status kicks in, possibly & reluctantly. Maybe getting as much as a 2nd from a team willing to buy an early opportunity to negotiate. Frankly I'd try to get him resigned for decent money 5 to 5.5 for 5 years & trade 1 of the others. He's Swiss so very possible he takes a home town discount. The Swiss are nothing if not well grounded. It won't be all about the money for him.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Feb 14 @ 10:54 AM ET
Sorry buddy but its not http://www.cbc.ca/sports-...ts-draft-picks-trade.html

By Elliotte Friedman, so I believe it

- DDM-Coga
I like what Murray brings to table already at 20 he's logging 20 min per game, sure he's not doing highlight reel plays but he keeps it simple. I sorta forgive Howson for turning down the Isles offer.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 14 @ 10:55 AM ET
Sorry buddy but its not http://www.cbc.ca/sports-...ts-draft-picks-trade.html

By Elliotte Friedman, so I believe it

- DDM-Coga

No need to be sorry. Snow denied it and I believe Howson called it a "substantial offer" but denied it was the whole draft. I'll believe the people involved with the trade even though I hate Snow's guts. Just because someone writes it doesn't make it fact as we should all know. Even if it was I'd do that trade it's just as a hockey fan I believe very little I read online . I'd still do that trade especially after the fact Though I'm pretty high on Pulock.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 14 @ 10:56 AM ET
I like what Murray brings to table already at 20 he's logging 20 min per game, sure he's not doing highlight reel plays but he keeps it simple. I sorta forgive Howson for turning down the Isles offer.
- Alexzanki

He's well insulated. I've felt all year that CBus has a very solid blueline. Quite underrated.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 10:59 AM ET
This is why people have trouble being happy for Leafs fans.
- sanfordnson


Yakupov has 40 to 50 goal potential. Even if he settles in at aroung the 35 goal 70 point range in 2 to 3 years Edmonton did very well. No GM in the league would pass on Yakupov now if they could get him a fair value. That being the 1st overall pick. His value hasn't really declined to GM's they undestand the development curve.

1 thing about the draft in the last 10 years is that top 10 picks have rarely been busts now like in the old days. There is the odd 1 sprnkled in there but most have become exactly what they were supposed to be.

How many of you wrote off Turris. My break through point for forwards is 200 NHL games. By the 300 game mark they should be what they will be for the next decade baring injury. Turris had played 234 games coming into this season. He just started to scratch the surface of his potential last season & has taken a huge step forward this year. Stardom may come as early as next maybe a year or 2 later but it's coming. He just turned 24 in April.
ducks31
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Junction City, OR
Joined: 12.02.2006

Feb 14 @ 10:59 AM ET
Vanek for Hiller ?
- Nolanders


I don't think they'll include Hiller in any trade. I believe they'll do a package of either Anderson or Fasth and a d-man like Sbisa and a prospect.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 11:00 AM ET
I like what Murray brings to table already at 20 he's logging 20 min per game, sure he's not doing highlight reel plays but he keeps it simple. I sorta forgive Howson for turning down the Isles offer.
- Alexzanki


That's Murray's game. He isn't going to whoa you but his maturity & mental game is incredible. He's a great skater & thinks the game like he's been in the NHL for 10 years. It's amazing.
ducks31
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Junction City, OR
Joined: 12.02.2006

Feb 14 @ 11:01 AM ET
I think you can get a pick out of it too.

Vanek for Hiller and Anaheims first.

I think it is a hell of a deal. Hiller is a very underrated goalie, IMO.

NYI get a start on what they need.

- ImThatGuy


Murry came out a few weeks back and stated that Hiller is not being traded, Period.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 14 @ 11:02 AM ET
I don't think they'll include Hiller in any trade. I believe they'll do a package of either Anderson or Fasth and a d-man like Sbisa and a prospect.
- ducks31


Agreed. NYI taking Fasth or Andersen makes a ton of sense. Sbisa has had a brutal run of in juires but should be a solid top 4 denfensive Dman. Another asset that NYI could really use.
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