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MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Feb 13 @ 8:20 PM ET
Why? They are not making the playoffs, and Vanek wouldn't re-sign there. Makes no sense.
- carcus

Preds currently last place in the central and 3rd from last in west. Not too sure on why they would be in on Vanek either.
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Feb 13 @ 8:25 PM ET
Preds currently last place in the central and 3rd from last in west. Not too sure on why they would be in on Vanek either.
- MnGump

You would think if Ek is going to spew out random teams, he'd at least do ones that might make sense to draw some buzz.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:29 PM ET
Just say NO to the Buff. I think that I will order a steak, and wash it down with a keg of beer...lol. I am sure that the Jets want way too much for him, and if we trade away any more guys that can score (ie. JVR, Sharp), then we will be right back into the same position as the previous seasons, and our farm team will look like poop. I say stay the course with the kids, and allow them to develop. Fill the holes with steady guys, and let it ride. In today's NHL, we have to be patient. Going one or two series into the playoffs before getting knocked out is not fun. I like being able to make the playoffs almost every year, but isn't going one or two bad years tolerable, before you win the Cup again? Also, stop with the rental players, and poor character guys. It's easy to get caught up in the numbers game, but you also have to look at how the player plays the game. If he takes nights off, or starts to make plans for the off season, before the season is over, then maybe he isn't the guy for our team.
Just saying.....
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:34 PM ET
Hmm I would like Ladd on the Avs. Maybe mcginn+ or PA + deal but it depends on what direction WPG would be going and I highly doubt they trade within the division. Still though an interesting thought.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Feb 13 @ 8:35 PM ET
You would think if Ek is going to spew out random teams, he'd at least do ones that might make sense to draw some buzz.
- YzermanIsTheMan

Well yeah, I guess he could say that just about any team has interest in him, but as you alluded to, there has to be a fair amount of logic involved as to which ones might actually have a legitimate shot at dealing for him.
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Feb 13 @ 8:37 PM ET
Well yeah, I guess he could say that just about any team has interest in him, but as you alluded to, there has to be a fair amount of logic involved as to which ones might actually have a legitimate shot at dealing for him.
- MnGump

Might as well say the Sabres are trading back for him at this point.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 13 @ 8:46 PM ET
kreider + 1st for yak
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:23 PM ET
The getting up at 2 or 3 a.m. to watch a game does suck though.
- blacksheep1


I PVR'd them so far & started watching them when I got up at 6 AM before going on line & finding out the scores. I don't enjoy it as much if I know the outcome.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:25 PM ET
Preds currently last place in the central and 3rd from last in west. Not too sure on why they would be in on Vanek either.
- MnGump


Yes but only 4 points out of a playoff spot with 23 games to go. The 8th place team in the west currently does have 1 game in hand though. 4 points isn't insurmountable.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:29 PM ET
As a rental Anaheim makes the most sense. They have 2 1st round picks this year & have a sh-- load of prospects at almost every position. They also have the cap space to comfortable fit him in. If they were so inclined they could meet the asking price with out any significant impact to their prospect system & they are truely Cup contenders so might be willing to roll the dice.
JetsAvs
Location: Kelowna, BC
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:36 PM ET
Yak & Gagner won't get you a Murray. You had a shot at Murray but passed. A huge mistake.
- striker777


Are you a jackets fan? yaks and ganger would certainly get Murray plus. I'm not sure where your opinion is coming from.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:43 PM ET
kreider + 1st for yak
- rangerdanger94

Seeing Yak and Nash continually turn the puck over would be a dream of mine.

blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:45 PM ET
Are you a jackets fan? yaks and ganger would certainly get Murray plus. I'm not sure where your opinion is coming from.
- Myron1982

Short of a proven star, Yaks and Gagner aren't, the jackets are not giving up Murray. There is a reason why the Jackets defensive group, looks better this year. It's because of Murray.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:52 PM ET
Are you a jackets fan? yaks and ganger would certainly get Murray plus. I'm not sure where your opinion is coming from.
- Myron1982


I don't think it would. Just my opinion. You are entitled to yours. For a # of reasons, some of which don't just come down to tallent changing hands but current $, UFA status, where each team is in their efforts to build a contender, who they have now at those respective positions, etc.

Columbus has Dubinsky, Johansson, Anisimov & Letestu at C now. Yes both Dubinsky & Anisimov could move to the wing but Columbus has a bunch of wingers signed in various stages of development. Horton, Umberger, Atkinson, Calvert, Foligno, & Jenner. They also have Rychel & Wennberg coming. That doesn't even count Gaborik who they will let walk as a UFA unless he signs for a home town discount. Not Likely he's eastern european, he's in it for the money.

I'm a Bruins fan but have numerious other teams I really like. Really I'm a hockey fan & my favorite hobby is fantasy hockey, the NHL simply provides the players for me to enjoy it.
Tapdog
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
Galchenuyk got injured this year.

Yaks - 23pts in 55 games with 122:40 of power play this year
Galchenuyk - 23pts in 44 games with 86:50 min of Power play this year

Not saying Yaks is Bad but you have to put the points total in perspective...
Yak is going to be good... probably an offense first - point producer ala Semin.

- JoeMuzz


What the heck are you trying to point out... Yak spends more time on the PP???? super... Galy has 2g, 5a on the PP in 86:50 and Yak has a stunning total of 4g, 1a in 122:40.
Care to clarify your point???
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 13 @ 10:14 PM ET
What the heck are you trying to point out... Yak spends more time on the PP???? super... Galy has 2g, 5a on the PP in 86:50 and Yak has a stunning total of 4g, 1a in 122:40.
Care to clarify your point???

- Tapdog

He's saying Galchenyuk has the same amount of point in 11 less games while playing more in a 5 on 5 situations.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:18 PM ET
I don't think it would. Just my opinion. You are entitled to yours. For a # of reasons, some of which don't just come down to tallent changing hands but current $, UFA status, where each team is in their efforts to build a contender, who they have now at those respective positions, etc.

Columbus has Dubinsky, Johansson, Anisimov & Letestu at C now. Yes both Dubinsky & Anisimov could move to the wing but Columbus has a bunch of wingers signed in various stages of development. Horton, Umberger, Atkinson, Calvert, Foligno, & Jenner. They also have Rychel & Wennberg coming. That doesn't even count Gaborik who they will let walk as a UFA unless he signs for a home town discount. Not Likely he's eastern european, he's in it for the money.

I'm a Bruins fan but have numerious other teams I really like. Really I'm a hockey fan & my favorite hobby is fantasy hockey, the NHL simply provides the players for me to enjoy it.

- striker777


so your considering value based on the jackets needs?
k, well a young unproven defencemen is neither what the oilers need at present either. in fact they have 3 theyre sorta waiting on.

I don't doubt that cbj doesn't wanna deal murray. but neither would mact make that trade. especially adding in gagner.

pure value on talent, of course yaks and murray are comparable. they went 1-2 not even 2 years ago. one won a rookie scoring title, the other didn't even play the season.
im not even trying to suggest that yaks is worth more or less or whatever. but instead that theyre very close at present.
BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 08.09.2011

Feb 13 @ 10:21 PM ET
Dubinskys tool set and style of play would be far more helpful to the current oilers roster than gagner can be
- hugefemale dog77[/

I was searching for those words...


NEEDSMORHORCOFF
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.10.2012

Feb 13 @ 10:40 PM ET
People can call about Yakupov all they want. Unless its a big offer the Oil will not move him. He's playing much better and is coming along.
- Iggysbff


Would you do it for P.K Subban? Not sure the habs would, but that would be my asking price.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 10:42 PM ET
Would you do it for P.K Subban? Not sure the habs would, but that would be my asking price.
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF


Subban>>> Yakupov
benmacw
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 13 @ 10:46 PM ET
Subban>>> Yakupov
- Cheeseballin

Of course he is, but hes the only player the habs have that we would be willing to give Yak for.
NEEDSMORHORCOFF
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.10.2012

Feb 13 @ 10:46 PM ET
Subban>>> Yakupov
- Cheeseballin


Yep. Right now, anyways. Lots of other factors involved though. I'd like to see the oilers dangle yak + this years 1st for some immediate help on D, and given Yak and Galchenyuk's history I think that should be enough to net subban. I doubt the habs want to let him go though.

Edit to add: in the above scenario the 1st would be conditional on a contract extension.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 13 @ 10:48 PM ET
so your considering value based on the jackets needs?
k, well a young unproven defencemen is neither what the oilers need at present either. in fact they have 3 theyre sorta waiting on.

I don't doubt that cbj doesn't wanna deal murray. but neither would mact make that trade. especially adding in gagner.

pure value on talent, of course yaks and murray are comparable. they went 1-2 not even 2 years ago. one won a rookie scoring title, the other didn't even play the season.
im not even trying to suggest that yaks is worth more or less or whatever. but instead that theyre very close at present.

- hugefemale dog77


Murray missed a season after under going shoulder surgery. He just turned 20 in September & is already averaging 20 mins a game for Columbus in all situations. He played in the World Championships as an 18 year old. That's some amazing accomplishments considering learning to play defense in the NHL is a long challenging process. The fact he's done it with little to no regression is astounding.

He should have been selected 1st overall. No slight to Yak's but players like Murray help teams win & come along less frequently. He was exactly what the Oilers needed. None of Schultz, Marincin or Klefbom will ever be Murray. At this rate of development Murray will be a #1 Dman in the NHL in 2 years. That will make him 22 & that's amazing. Think Ekman-Larsson good.

Now there is way more risk drafting Dman as some never make the transition to the NHL. Then there is the fact that most take years to develop. As I've stated repeatedly in or around 400 games for the vast majority. Example & I could list 100's ut lets use Hedman from TB. 258 games of NHL experience going into this season & right on the cusp of becoming a superstar. He will be next season just before he hits that mark.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 10:50 PM ET
Of course he is, but hes the only player the habs have that we would be willing to give Yak for.
- benmacw


Of course he would be what EDM wants . Montreal won't.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 13 @ 10:51 PM ET
so your considering value based on the jackets needs?
k, well a young unproven defencemen is neither what the oilers need at present either. in fact they have 3 theyre sorta waiting on.

I don't doubt that cbj doesn't wanna deal murray. but neither would mact make that trade. especially adding in gagner.

pure value on talent, of course yaks and murray are comparable. they went 1-2 not even 2 years ago. one won a rookie scoring title, the other didn't even play the season.
im not even trying to suggest that yaks is worth more or less or whatever. but instead that theyre very close at present.

- hugefemale dog77


I'm not considering value based on Clb's need. I'm looking at if they would trade player A for player B & C. No they won't, because they don't need Gagner or Yakupov. It doesn't make Clb better or improve their chances of winning now or moving forward.
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