And to learn how to use his shot more.
- MaximumBone

He shot lots last year. This year he seems more hesitant to do so.

I wonder.

yaks lead rooks in goals and points last year ya know.

im not suggesting cbj should have any interest in moving murray. just saying that this silly belief that yaks was the wrong pick or that murray was the right choice is laughable at this point

I was reading some yaks bust posts recently and how good galchenyu and huberdeau are etc.

yaks-23pts
galcnehyuk-23
huberdeau-22

lets also not forget that with nurse, klefbom and marincin in the system, I doubt they give up and asset like yaks for another young defenceman anyways
- hugefemale dog77

To be fair Yakupov has played 15 more games then Galchenyuk. He is also by far the most one dimensional of the three.

While we're talking about young Dmen who are succeeding, let's bring up Marincin's play for those ignorant of Edmonton's young Dmen! He's up to averaging 20ish minutes/night and is a +4 (which is ASTOUNDING for Edmonton Dmen) through 22 games. His possession stats are also GREAT!



Just wanted to join the circle-jerk over young Dmen
- MaximumBone

was he -4 or -5 agains USA?

Come on. Yakupov does have a tendency to float, and doesn't move his feet much when he doesn't have the puck. I like the guy and even I have noticed it. He's getting better in that regard, but I see him standing around waiting for the puck to come to him way too often.

It's one of those things I think can be worked out of his game, but it is there atm.
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

Agreed. Most of Yakupov's fault's are fixable with time & the skills he has aren't teachable. That's god given talent or what ever you might want to call it. That release is world class. He will score in the 40 to 50 goal range for years once he puts it all together.

To be fair Yakupov has played 15 more games then Galchenyuk. He is also by far the most one dimensional of the three.
- GardinerExpress

Based on?

He shot lots last year. This year he seems more hesitant to do so.
- sanfordnson

Well actually, he's actually shooting more this season. He only had 81 shots in 48 games last season compared to 105 in 55 games this season. To your point, though, he was more confident with his shot on the PP last season, but that may have had more to do with Kreuger's utilization of him.

Well actually, he's actually shooting more this season. He only had 81 shots in 48 games last season compared to 105 in 55 games this season. To your point, though, he was more confident with his shot on the PP last season, but that may have had more to do with Kreuger's utilization of him.
- MaximumBone

Kind of what I was getting at.

If he can just learn not to be a liability defensively that would be good enough.
- sanfordnson

Agreed. And I personally have seen strides this year. Lately the last few weeks.

Just sick of people who rarely watch and look at +/-

To be fair Yakupov has played 15 more games then Galchenyuk. He is also by far the most one dimensional of the three.
- GardinerExpress

I'd say he and Huberdeau are pretty even in that regard.

Agreed. And I personally have seen strides this year. Lately the last few weeks.

Just sick of people who rarely watch and look at +/-
- ystoil

was he -4 or -5 agains USA?
- GardinerExpress

Based on?
- sanfordnson

Tsn probably. They watch yak twice per year. And he's Russian.

was he -4 or -5 agains USA?
- GardinerExpress

I wish I knew where those stats were recorded cause I'd love to see how big of a minus Chara or Sekera were in that game as well. To my eye, Jurcina was the weak link in that pairing, though.

Kind of what I was getting at.
- sanfordnson

You know what they say about brilliant minds

I wish I knew where those stats were recorded cause I'd love to see how big of a minus Chara or Sekera were in that game as well. To my eye, Jurcina was the weak link in that pairing, though.
- MaximumBone

I think Chara was even. He's (frank)in Chara.

I wish I knew where those stats were recorded cause I'd love to see how big of a minus Chara or Sekera were in that game as well. To my eye, Jurcina was the weak link in that pairing, though.
- MaximumBone

I've read that in multiple places as well.

I've read that in multiple places as well.
- ystoil

Unpossible. Jurcina isn't an Oiler. those articles were written by Dan Tencer probably.

Some think Olli maata will be joining him soon
- Brianandr1

There appear to be a bunch coming & fast.

Lindholm & Fowler in Anh, Hamilton in Bos, Faulk in Car, Murray in Clb, Dekeyser in Det, Kulikov in Flo, Voyonov in LA, Brodin in Min, Josi & Jones in Nas, McDonagh in NYR, Ekman-Larsson in Pho, Maata in Pit, Shattenkirk & Peitrangelo in StL, Hedman in TB, Reilly in Tor, Carlsson in Was & Trouba & Bogosian in Win. These are just kids that are showing solid 2 way abilities with solid offensive upside.

Then there are the incredibly talented 1 way Dman. Krug in Bos, Leddy in Chi, Schultz in Edm & Gelinas in NJ. Who may develop better 2 way skills. Leddy is being forced to in Chicago or he doesn't get to play as an example.

I wish I knew where those stats were recorded cause I'd love to see how big of a minus Chara or Sekera were in that game as well. To my eye, Jurcina was the weak link in that pairing, though.
- MaximumBone

Chara & Sekera were even. You can access that data on ESPN.

I wish I knew where those stats were recorded cause I'd love to see how big of a minus Chara or Sekera were in that game as well. To my eye, Jurcina was the weak link in that pairing, though.
- MaximumBone

It wasn't just Marincin & Jurcina's fault. I watched that game & the forwards were completely lost as well. In international play, 5 man units are far more common as they dress 20 to the NHL's 18. So many European teams run 4 pairs of 5.

You older guys might remember when Scotty used to like to run 5 man units in Detroit on occassion.

Marincin has been a very pleasant surprise & he has been developed perfectly todate. Brought to the WHL after he was drafted, 2 years of Major Junior, AHL exposure after his Major Junior seasons ended a full season & a bit in Oklahoma & brought up just before Xmas. I'm sure they would have liked to have him have had come up even later but he's here to stay now & may have been Edm's best defensemen over the last dozen games.

dumb. He's at his lowest now
- TheNugeIsHuge

probably be lower when he takes his puck and goes back to the KHL

To be fair Yakupov has played 15 more games then Galchenyuk. He is also by far the most one dimensional of the three.
- GardinerExpress

Is this really being fair?

To be fair Yakupov has played 15 more games then Galchenyuk. He is also by far the most one dimensional of the three.
- GardinerExpress

Really?

I'm not so sure there's an ounce of fairNess to this statement

Galchenyuk has been lauded as a solid two-way player. In fact going off the media the casual fan would glean that he's better defensively at age 19 than Nuge is at 20-21.

They were saying this last year when he enjoyed a 58% off zone start, lower rung quality of competition and less total SH time than Yakupov (and that's saying something)

It's not that I don't think that Gally is a great player, and bound to be solid defensively, but independent of a direct comparison with Yakupov I don't see him to be that good defensively right now.

And the fact that everyone was saying how good Gally was defensively last year leads me to believe that even if he is becoming a top 6 two-way centre, we won't be able to gather that from the hype alone.

Galchenyuk has been lauded as a solid two-way player. In fact going off the media the casual fan would glean that he's better defensively at age 19 than Nuge is at 20-21.

They were saying this last year when he enjoyed a 58% off zone start, lower rung quality of competition and less total SH time than Yakupov (and that's saying something)

It's not that I don't think that Gally is a great player, and bound to be solid defensively, but independent of a direct comparison with Yakupov I don't see him to be that good defensively right now.

And the fact that everyone was saying how good Gally was defensively last year leads me to believe that even if he is becoming a top 6 two-way centre, we won't be able to gather that from the hype alone.
- Morris

Your point is? The SH time is irrevelant to me since Plek and Moen are their PK specialist with White and Gionta playing little time. Anyway, Galchenyuk wasn't drafted to be a defensive minded forward. Who's better between him and Yakupov? Who cares seriously, one is a playmaking center the other is a sniper winger. The debate should be between Yakupov and Murray since the Oils biggest needs are a good two-way 2nd line center like Dubinsky and top 4 D. Hendricks improved your bottom 6 at least.