I think it's unlikely. Since there is no accountability on the Isles it certainly won't happen here. Just let him go already. He's invisible. The only good thing I can say about him is as useless as he is, he doesn't hand the opposing team opportunities like AMac.
- JimmyP

I agree it may not happen here due to there being zero accountability on the Isles but that doesn't solve the problem. You can't expect every player to be billed as sold and not require good tutoring. Unrealistic. For every Tavares there's 20 Baileys. You can't keep trading away players expecting to build a team with players that don't require coaching. Believe me I'm not saying Bailey is some 100% untapped resource what I'm saying is we will never know and will continue to not know as along as we have the coaching staff we have.

I agree it may not happen here due to there being zero accountability on the Isles but that doesn't solve the problem. You can't expect every player to be billed as sold and not require good tutoring. Unrealistic. For every Tavares there's 20 Baileys. You can't keep trading away players expecting to build a team with players that don't require coaching. Believe me I'm not saying Bailey is some 100% untapped resource what I'm saying is we will never know and will continue to not know as along as we have the coaching staff we have.
- Cptmjl

I fully agree. It's just another example of how poorly this team is being run.

It's just hard to watch Josh. There are so many people that would kill to have his talent and play in the NHL. There are guys working their asses off just for a chance they could break in. To see a guy float around game after game irritates me. I also think it's insulting to the fans. It shouldn't be acceptable to the individual or the organization.

I fully agree. It's just another example of how poorly this team is being run.

It's just hard to watch Josh. There are so many people that would kill to have his talent and play in the NHL. There are guys working their asses off just for a chance they could break in. To see a guy float around game after game irritates me. I also think it's insulting to the fans. It shouldn't be acceptable to the individual or the organization.
- JimmyP

I 100% agree but I feel there are far more embarrassing things about this team then Josh Bailey. I also feel he is a product of what this team is. Half assed and bush league. It's not only accepted by the team it almost seems to be embraced. One thing they seem to be good at is losing. If it's not coaching it's management, if it's not the management it's the ownership, start over. Same BS all the time.

From what I read Stamkos was supposed to get 91. Plus, he was born on the 20th.
- David_Volek

I figured Stamkos would get 91 1st but where he didn't go I thought JT would have had it...thanks for response bud.

I 100% agree but I feel there are far more embarrassing things about this team then Josh Bailey. I also feel he is a product of what this team is. Half assed and bush league. It's not only accepted by the team it almost seems to be embraced. One thing they seem to be good at is losing. If it's not coaching it's management, if it's not the management it's the ownership, start over. Same BS all the time.
- Cptmjl

Right on que!!!!!

I don't know- I think our forwards would be alright if our defense and goaltending weren't mediocre to crap, and our coaching wasn't an embarrassment. About the only forward I really thought was sh*t just got traded to Chicago. Brown is a decent mucker on the smaller rink, but he's not a top six forward on this team, in my opinion, especially once Nelson and Strome are completely polished. He may not even be a third liner a couple of years from now.
- dcb1

Brown has been a consistent player in the NHL and has been a very good player with a track record of scoring goals. Which this team lacks besides the 1st line.
Besides JT and before Moulson, not one player has been consistent, so I'd rather have Brown on this team then most of these players that are already on team.
Plus Brown is not a mucker, he's actually a much proven scoring version of Callahan, which I wouldn't mind to have on this roster.

Strome & Nelson are still kids, we can only hope that they are developed properly so they can attribute to this team.

I wouldn't trade any forward off this team without seeing if a proper coach could get consistency out of them first.
- UIF

A coach and system would make a world of difference, but some/most of our forwards are not better than Brown.
But I do understand your point...

Brown has been a consistent player in the NHL and has been a very good player with a track record of scoring goals. Which this team lacks besides the 1st line.
Besides JT and before Moulson, not one player has been consistent, so I'd rather have Brown on this team then most of these players that are already on team.
Plus Brown is not a mucker, he's actually a much proven scoring version of Callahan, which I wouldn't mind to have on this roster.

Strome & Nelson are still kids, we can only hope that they are developed properly so they can attribute to this team.
- Ur Not Me

He looks slow- people think guys who take kneeing penalties do so because they're dirty, which is a fallacy; most of them do so because their jock is wrapped around their ankles. Brown has had one 30 goal, 60 point season in his career- this year, he's got 16 points in 58 games. Brown to me looks like he fills the role of an Okposo, except he's older, more beat up, slower, and not just figuring it all out as Kyle is. I'm guessing the argument is that he, like Callahan, fills a leadership role, which is fine, but I still don't think he cracks top six in this lineup. We have good forwards, except for the two piles of sh*t we just traded to Chicago.

Our forwards are not the problem- they are COACHED poorly, and don't know jack sh*t about playing defense, but that's coaching, not talent level. With Nelson and Strome fully developed, I'll take our forwards against pretty much any in the league, except maybe Anaheim. Unfortunately, we have Hamonic, de Haan, Donovan (who is still up and down at this point, and who I'm not totally convinced about yet), a 37 year old shrimp, and a bunch of guys who don't belong in the NHL on defense, and a guy who has seen better days, a not quite there yet, and a never will be in goal. That needs to be addressed- but the forwards aren't the problem.

I sometimes wonder if it isn't Wang being cheap- if it's that Snow doesn't sign/trade for more players because he's afraid that if they had more good players all at once, they'd be expected to win, and then Wang would fire everyone WHEN it doesn't happen because Capuano doesn't know what he's doing. It's like he's buying time with these kids, thinking that his drafting prowess is going to somehow overcome the ineptitude of his staff- that he's going to win in spite of himself and the idiots he has surrounded himself with. My only hope is that they really suck a$$ for the first two weeks after they come back, WANG fires Capuano, and Doug Weight turns out to be a decent coach, by complete accident. That's about all I have left until the circus leaves town.

Cappy doesn't even have the defensemen play defense!

I have to disagree with you about Bailey. The guy doesn't play hard. Even if someone taught him to play a defensive game he would still just float around. They took a shot with him, it didn't pan out, cut him loose.
- JimmyP

All I'm saying here is a real coach would kick him in the a$$ and give him a real job to do, which he'd be expected to actually do, instead of having his coach just tell Peter Ruttgaizer (sp?) that "they battled hard and activated well" every night. The fact that he spent even one night in the seats with coach "don't worry, be happy" coaching this team tells me that a real coach would bite a chunk off of this kid's hockey pants every couple of days. I'd hate to waiver him and have someone turn him into a real hockey player- I'd rather waiver the coach before too many more of them get away.

Speaking of which, anyone else here have the urge to duck tape Capuano to a chair and make him watch Switzerland play hockey? This is how you win games when the other team has more talent than you do.....idiot....

He looks slow- people think guys who take kneeing penalties do so because they're dirty, which is a fallacy; most of them do so because their jock is wrapped around their ankles. Brown has had one 30 goal, 60 point season in his career- this year, he's got 16 points in 58 games. Brown to me looks like he fills the role of an Okposo, except he's older, more beat up, slower, and not just figuring it all out as Kyle is. I'm guessing the argument is that he, like Callahan, fills a leadership role, which is fine, but I still don't think he cracks top six in this lineup. We have good forwards, except for the two piles of sh*t we just traded to Chicago.

Our forwards are not the problem- they are COACHED poorly, and don't know jack sh*t about playing defense, but that's coaching, not talent level. With Nelson and Strome fully developed, I'll take our forwards against pretty much any in the league, except maybe Anaheim. Unfortunately, we have Hamonic, de Haan, Donovan (who is still up and down at this point, and who I'm not totally convinced about yet), a 37 year old shrimp, and a bunch of guys who don't belong in the NHL on defense, and a guy who has seen better days, a not quite there yet, and a never will be in goal. That needs to be addressed- but the forwards aren't the problem.

I sometimes wonder if it isn't Wang being cheap- if it's that Snow doesn't sign/trade for more players because he's afraid that if they had more good players all at once, they'd be expected to win, and then Wang would fire everyone WHEN it doesn't happen because Capuano doesn't know what he's doing. It's like he's buying time with these kids, thinking that his drafting prowess is going to somehow overcome the ineptitude of his staff- that he's going to win in spite of himself and the idiots he has surrounded himself with. My only hope is that they really suck a$$ for the first two weeks after they come back, WANG fires Capuano, and Doug Weight turns out to be a decent coach, by complete accident. That's about all I have left until the circus leaves town.
- dcb1

Since 2006 Brown has had the following goals;
14, 17, 33, 24, 24, 28, 22 and 18 in a shortened season, I'd say that's pretty consistent in 8 yrs. Plus hes only 29 yrs old.

The Isles F are above average and that our cheap salaries are the reason why Isles have better depth than most teams, but the Isles F are not even close to better than most teams in the NHL. Isles only have 1 STUD STAR payer on team, some teams have more than 1 or 2, and I'm just talking about the F position without even bringing up the D.
Now I will say that the Isles bottom 6 F can/or are better than most teams bottom 6 F, but its not even a close conversation about top 6 F.
Off the top of my head, CHI, STL, PITT, PHIL, SJ, LAK, WASH, theres more but I chose to stop.

Speaking of which, anyone else here have the urge to duck tape Capuano to a chair and make him watch Switzerland play hockey? This is how you win games when the other team has more talent than you do.....idiot....
- dcb1

I'm in.... when do we start

All I'm saying here is a real coach would kick him in the a$$ and give him a real job to do, which he'd be expected to actually do, instead of having his coach just tell Peter Ruttgaizer (sp?) that "they battled hard and activated well" every night. The fact that he spent even one night in the seats with coach "don't worry, be happy" coaching this team tells me that a real coach would bite a chunk off of this kid's hockey pants every couple of days. I'd hate to waiver him and have someone turn him into a real hockey player- I'd rather waiver the coach before too many more of them get away.
- dcb1

I agree with you overall. The organizations inability to develop players is disturbing. Couple that with the lack of accountability and it's a recipe for players to underachieve. I still think Josh is a lost cause. Not that it matters. Until changes are made to management the player that replaces him could have the same issues.

I agree with you overall. The organizations inability to develop players is disturbing. Couple that with the lack of accountability and it's a recipe for players to underachieve. I still think Josh is a lost cause. Not that it matters. Until changes are made to management the player that replaces him could have the same issues.
- JimmyP

Yep, exactly what I was saying... Crappy situation. It all comes down to us needing new management. Not happening which means exopect more of the same unfortunately.

Where is everybody?

No new blogs... no comments.

Did everybody go to Russia???

Yep, exactly what I was saying... Crappy situation. It all comes down to us needing new management. Not happening which means exopect more of the same unfortunately.
- Cptmjl

I think we're all saying the same thing. The only difference is I think Bailey is beyond hope and you guys think there is a small chance he could improve with new coaches. I guess it's worth a shot since we're stuck with him anyway. This is one of those cases where it would be nice to be wrong. Now if we could only get some new coaches.

Where is everybody?

No new blogs... no comments.

Did everybody go to Russia???
- jimmc7722

There's not much to talk about. Personally I'm sick of the "Who's most to blame" debate. The Olympics haven't gotten exciting yet. Plus from watching the Olympic hockey coverage you would think the only US player is T.J. Oshie.

There's not much to talk about. Personally I'm sick of the "Who's most to blame" debate. The Olympics haven't gotten exciting yet. Plus from watching the Olympic hockey coverage you would think the only US player is T.J. Oshie.
- JimmyP

Raise your hand if you had Grabner second in points and first in goals at the end of the prelims

Since 2006 Brown has had the following goals;
14, 17, 33, 24, 24, 28, 22 and 18 in a shortened season, I'd say that's pretty consistent in 8 yrs. Plus hes only 29 yrs old.

The Isles F are above average and that our cheap salaries are the reason why Isles have better depth than most teams, but the Isles F are not even close to better than most teams in the NHL. Isles only have 1 STUD STAR payer on team, some teams have more than 1 or 2, and I'm just talking about the F position without even bringing up the D.
Now I will say that the Isles bottom 6 F can/or are better than most teams bottom 6 F, but its not even a close conversation about top 6 F.
Off the top of my head, CHI, STL, PITT, PHIL, SJ, LAK, WASH, theres more but I chose to stop.
- Ur Not Me

We have a star first line, right now. We have a solid third line, and a solid fourth line. Our only weakness is line two, and that should get taken care of when Strome and Nelson are really ready to go. All I'm saying is the forward position is fine (we're like sixth in scoring, or something like that)- the other stuff needs to be fixed, and most of what needs to be fixed is the nonsense they do on the ice, which is inexplicable from a strategic standpoint.

We have a star first line, right now. We have a solid third line, and a solid fourth line. Our only weakness is line two, and that should get taken care of when Strome and Nelson are really ready to go. All I'm saying is the forward position is fine (we're like sixth in scoring, or something like that)- the other stuff needs to be fixed, and most of what needs to be fixed is the nonsense they do on the ice, which is inexplicable from a strategic standpoint.
- dcb1

I understand your point, but the Isles are only a 1st line scoring team. I believe a stat was shown that majority of Isles goals are mostly by 1st line, that's not good.
Isles are gonna have question marks every year until consistency is shown. Who will replace Vanek and/or his production, will KO be consistent after this year "plus lets see how KO finishes this year up".
No secondary scoring, will Grabs score more goals, D needs major improvement, coach & system needs to be installed, goalie needs to be consistent, theres a lot of question marks around this team.
Until then spend on proper NHL quality within the whole organization from top to bottom, don't expect any miracles, and last years PO's are a fabrication bc it was a shortened season.

Trust me, its frustrating to be a fan, season tixx holder, etc..... Especially growing up thru the glory years and barely remembering the early cup years. Its gotten that pathetic for this franchise....

Raise your hand if you had Grabner second in points and first in goals at the end of the prelims
- UIF

I heard Vanek played in the Olympics too.. but i haven't seen any proof of it.


XxNYIxX

There's not much to talk about. Personally I'm sick of the "Who's most to blame" debate. The Olympics haven't gotten exciting yet. Plus from watching the Olympic hockey coverage you would think the only US player is T.J. Oshie.
- JimmyP

Everybody knows it starts @ the top.

It's all on Wang!!!

As for the Olympics... haven't watch NBC, only CBC, TSN, Sportsnet...lol.

They have played all the men's hockey games.

Some good hockey!!!

I understand your point, but the Isles are only a 1st line scoring team. I believe a stat was shown that majority of Isles goals are mostly by 1st line, that's not good.
Isles are gonna have question marks every year until consistency is shown. Who will replace Vanek and/or his production, will KO be consistent after this year "plus lets see how KO finishes this year up".
No secondary scoring, will Grabs score more goals, D needs major improvement, coach & system needs to be installed, goalie needs to be consistent, theres a lot of question marks around this team.
Until then spend on proper NHL quality within the whole organization from top to bottom, don't expect any miracles, and last years PO's are a fabrication bc it was a shortened season.

Trust me, its frustrating to be a fan, season tixx holder, etc..... Especially growing up thru the glory years and barely remembering the early cup years. Its gotten that pathetic for this franchise....
- Ur Not Me

I agree 100% about that last part, and I know what you're saying- we don't get enough scoring from the middle bunch, but there's a reason for that, in my opinion- coaching. My argument still is, about 10% of the problem has been the goaltending (mostly Poulin, in specific), about 10% of the problem is the lack of quality of the veteran defensemen, and 80% of the problem is the coach. To put it another way- right now, in the third, Russia 2, Norway (who has NO ONE on their team- NO ONE, at all, period) 0. If Jack Capuano was coaching Norway, with his asinine game plan, it would be Russia 8, Norway 0. That's a stone cold guaranteed lock, and that's WHY this team isn't good.

I'd love to have another scoring line, and with Nelson and Strome, I think we will eventually- but this f***ing "there but for the grace of God goes everyone into the offensive zone" nonsense HAS TO end. I think a lot of why they don't get secondary scoring, in fact, is because there is NO structure to what they do. NONE whatsoever. Tavares is just "that good" offensively, or else that line wouldn't score either, skating all over the place like bleeding chickens with no sense to any of it.

I, for one, am not looking forward to the Olympics ending, because watching some of these lesser teams like Norway, Slovenia and Latvia hold their own against superstars with mostly "has beens" and "never was" on their teams is only reinforcing the idea that the team I spend my money on is coached like festering sh*t. I just can't bear to see that nonsense anymore- it's like watching the little kids who play in between the periods. I don't even know if he's a good enough coach to make THEM win, to be honest.

I agree 100% about that last part, and I know what you're saying- we don't get enough scoring from the middle bunch, but there's a reason for that, in my opinion- coaching. My argument still is, about 10% of the problem has been the goaltending (mostly Poulin, in specific), about 10% of the problem is the lack of quality of the veteran defensemen, and 80% of the problem is the coach. To put it another way- right now, in the third, Russia 2, Norway (who has NO ONE on their team- NO ONE, at all, period) 0. If Jack Capuano was coaching Norway, with his asinine game plan, it would be Russia 8, Norway 0. That's a stone cold guaranteed lock, and that's WHY this team isn't good.

I'd love to have another scoring line, and with Nelson and Strome, I think we will eventually- but this f***ing "there but for the grace of God goes everyone into the offensive zone" nonsense HAS TO end. I think a lot of why they don't get secondary scoring, in fact, is because there is NO structure to what they do. NONE whatsoever. Tavares is just "that good" offensively, or else that line wouldn't score either, skating all over the place like bleeding chickens with no sense to any of it.

I, for one, am not looking forward to the Olympics ending, because watching some of these lesser teams like Norway, Slovenia and Latvia hold their own against superstars with mostly "has beens" and "never was" on their teams is only reinforcing the idea that the team I spend my money on is coached like festering sh*t. I just can't bear to see that nonsense anymore- it's like watching the little kids who play in between the periods. I don't even know if he's a good enough coach to make THEM win, to be honest.
- dcb1

So you are saying the players have to work harder at mastering Cappy's system?

XxNYIxX

Raise your hand if you had Grabner second in points and first in goals at the end of the prelims
- UIF

This proves how much cappy sucks.