Most independents don't vote. It's sad.
- SolidGoldBricks

Seniors vote big time. That's why they get everything for free lmao

Well , at least we figured out where the BONG WATER went

Are you (frank)ing high ?

If you're going to cap the gains , I guess you are going to cap the losses too ?

Employees should love getting losses deducted from their paychecks


- .HOHO.

the bolded: yes.. losses and gains effect all involved. thats what motivates the employees not to (frank) the dog.

its better than them losing their jobs entirely now isnt it?

thats the problem. unions were initially meant to protect a workers rights.. not force a company to relocate to stay competitive.

in manufacturing.. unionized labour simply isnt competitive anymore.

Seriously, this sport is just a few tweaks from being great.

"May the odds be ever in your favour."
- Canada Cup

HAHAHA YES!

I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE
- sanfordnson

This is great too!

Fox news and Americans heads would explode. You'd be labelled as a commie 10 times over! sharing profits with "workers"...capping profit! SACRILEGIOUS!
- Fakepartofme

i am more commie than most truthfully.

the unchecked free market is creating a world that will end up going back to the land owners and the serfs

its already happening.. the amount of people living beneath the poverty line .. who actually work full time.. is growing.

capitalism unchecked will fail.. just like communism with class structure failed

So a little hockey talk.

Kunitz Crosby Carter
Sharpe Toews Nash
Perry Getz JT

Which of the 5 left draw into the last line?

That was the "good story in the first comment". No spare skis for you.
- markmark

Oh boy...my bad...back to work for me - doesn't pay to jump in mid stream does it?

So a little hockey talk.

Kunitz Crosby Carter
Sharpe Toews Nash
Perry Getz JT

Which of the 5 left draw into the last line?
- Bigzby

i thought JT was centring the 4th line?

its better than them losing their jobs entirely now isnt it?

thats the problem. unions were initially meant to protect a workers rights.. not force a company to relocate to stay competitive.

in manufacturing.. unionized labour simply isnt competitive anymore.
- Dozzer

Completely with you on unions. There are necessary ones, and there are ones that are now ruining the economy.

With the internet and 24-hour news channels I don't think we have to worry about factory conditions slipping like they did in the industrial revolution. Unions are simply hurting the businesses.

Not to be an elitist, but I spent a lot of time in Michigan and knew a lot of people who worked on assembly lines making far more than I make now at my job. I had to get a 4-year degree just to get into my field, and had to work very hard and get additional education and experience before I could make what I do.

They were mostly out of jobs when the Big 3 started to fall, and they never looked at their unions and their high wages as a part of the reason.

Two years ago I was working a sales job where we were paid far too much. Company cars, paid for our gas, high wages, expense accounts etc. When the layoffs came, I knew exactly why, we were getting paid too much and the company couldn't sustain that many sales reps. Unionized jobs rarely see the same reasoning though, because unions make people feel entitled.

(again I am not commenting on things like teacher's/writers unions etc.)

So a little hockey talk.

Kunitz Crosby Carter
Sharpe Toews Nash
Perry Getz JT

Which of the 5 left draw into the last line?
- Bigzby

Those lines are not correct.


Edit:@TSNBobMcKenzie: "@Real_ESPNLeBrun: D-pairs also same: Keith-Weber; Bouwmeester-Pietrangelo; Vlasic-Dougthy; Hamhuis-Subban"/Hamhuis and Subban extras on D

@TSNBobMcKenzie: "@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Kunitz-Crosby-Carter; Sharp-Toews-Nash; Marleau-Getzlaf-Perry; Benn-Tavares-Bergeron; St. Louis-Duchene"/MSL, MD extras.

Reducing corporate tax rate to zero would be a phenomenal start.

Right off the top they'd be saving truckloads and would be much more enticing for them to stay.
- Bigzby

Isn't corporate tax already at 15.5%?

So a little hockey talk.

Kunitz Crosby Carter
Sharpe Toews Nash
Perry Getz JT

Which of the 5 left draw into the last line?
- Bigzby

I would go with:

St. Louis Duchene Benn

Bergeron will be wanted for PK I would think though.

(This is based on your lines. I doubt Carter will be first line, etc.)

So a little hockey talk.

Kunitz Crosby Carter
Sharpe Toews Nash
Perry Getz JT

Which of the 5 left draw into the last line?
- Bigzby

I think Bergeron is too good at almost everything to sit.
I hate that guy so much...because he kills the leafs
but (frank) he is one of the best players

over 60% of americans consider themselves independents, yet there is like 1% independent representation.

DaFuq?
- Bigzby

It's a bizarre yet simple answer: the US electoral system is a giant fraudulent mess.

You know how we have independent bodies to organize elections, ensuring fair elections (Elections Canada, Elections Ontario, etc.)?

The US doesn't have any such system. The incumbent runs the election.

But wait, it gets worse: you know how you get enumerated once, and then you are ppretty much on the voting list for the rest of your life? And if you aren't, you just fill out a form or contact Elections Canada or Elections Ontario?

The US voter registration system was established to make it really, really hard for blacks to register. But the sad part is, the legacy of that system is that it gives the two ruling parties a completely unfair advantage, and they have a vested interest in keeping it that way; they will never finish with less than a silver medal.

To register to vote, you pretty much have to register as a Republican or a Democrat. You can register as an independent, but it is hard.

How can it be called democracy when the parties register you?

But as I said above, there is no incentive for the ruling parties to change the system.

Completely with you on unions. There are necessary ones, and there are ones that are now ruining the economy.

With the internet and 24-hour news channels I don't think we have to worry about factory conditions slipping like they did in the industrial revolution. Unions are simply hurting the businesses.

Not to be an elitist, but I spent a lot of time in Michigan and knew a lot of people who worked on assembly lines making far more than I make now at my job. I had to get a 4-year degree just to get into my field, and had to work very hard and get additional education and experience before I could make what I do.

They were mostly out of jobs when the Big 3 started to fall, and they never looked at their unions and their high wages as a part of the reason.

Two years ago I was working a sales job where we were paid far too much. Company cars, paid for our gas, high wages, expense accounts etc. When the layoffs came, I knew exactly why, we were getting paid too much and the company couldn't sustain that many sales reps. Unionized jobs rarely see the same reasoning though, because unions make people feel entitled.

(again I am not commenting on things like teacher's/writers unions etc.)
- SolidGoldBricks

its really quite simple

unions are only effective in areas where a work force is in demand.

if there is an idle workforce elsewhere who will work for less... say bye bye to your job.

lets say a company like kellogs for instance.. who was losing sales because due to their unionized labour they had to charge 6$ for a box of corn flakes. their share holders start threatening to pull out because they arent getting the gains they would like. Kellogs looks at their labour force making an average of 30$ an hour to press buttons.

so basically.. 50$ an hour cost after factoring overhead (and i am being generous)

so you have 100 guys on the floor.. in one hour.. that company just spend 5000$ dollars.. over an 8 hour shift.. 40K.. over 3 shifts? 120K.. over a week 600 thousand dollars on labour alone.

this is before the actual product costs and trucking.

all of a sudden a box of f'n cornflakes costs the consumer $6.50

no name, who manufactures the same product without unionized labour can sell theirs for 3$ a box.. essentially ripping the majority of the market share away from kellogs.

amusing part is.. the people working for kellogs are likely buying the cheaper brand themselves.

for kellogs to survive they must be competitive.. and the only place they arent is in their labour rates.. so they close up shop, change cities, and open a non unionized factory

100 people are out of work because they wouldnt take a pay cut.. now, they get nothing.

Completely with you on unions. There are necessary ones, and there are ones that are now ruining the economy.

With the internet and 24-hour news channels I don't think we have to worry about factory conditions slipping like they did in the industrial revolution. Unions are simply hurting the businesses.

Not to be an elitist, but I spent a lot of time in Michigan and knew a lot of people who worked on assembly lines making far more than I make now at my job. I had to get a 4-year degree just to get into my field, and had to work very hard and get additional education and experience before I could make what I do.

They were mostly out of jobs when the Big 3 started to fall, and they never looked at their unions and their high wages as a part of the reason.

Two years ago I was working a sales job where we were paid far too much. Company cars, paid for our gas, high wages, expense accounts etc. When the layoffs came, I knew exactly why, we were getting paid too much and the company couldn't sustain that many sales reps. Unionized jobs rarely see the same reasoning though, because unions make people feel entitled.

(again I am not commenting on things like teacher's/writers unions etc.)
- SolidGoldBricks

I worked in hotels before my current career and I was shocked that I was in a union. What for? Most laws protect workers rights.

The union bred lazy senior people who would simply argue that they deserved something not because they did as much or more work than me (they never did) but because they were born earlier than me.
As you said it sends an entitlement to those guys. Unions drive off good young workers. (Some unions not all)

I feel that companies are going to continue to get rid of them by simply closing their doors. Unions have cost themselves business.

i thought JT was centring the 4th line?
- Dozzer

They we're trying him on the third LW with those 2. Having 3 scoring lines. 1 shut down.

It's a bizarre yet simple answer: the US electoral system is a giant fraudulent mess.

You know how we have independent bodies to organize elections, ensuring fair elections (Elections Canada, Elections Ontario, etc.)?

The US doesn't have any such system. The incumbent runs the election.

But wait, it gets worse: you know how you get enumerated once, and then you are ppretty much on the voting list for the rest of your life? And if you aren't, you just fill out a form or contact Elections Canada or Elections Ontario?

The US voter registration system was established to make it really, really hard for blacks to register. But the sad part is, the legacy of that system is that it gives the two ruling parties a completely unfair advantage, and they have a vested interest in keeping it that way; they will never finish with less than a silver medal.

To register to vote, you pretty much have to register as a Republican or a Democrat. You can register as an independent, but it is hard.

How can it be called democracy when the parties register you?

But as I said above, there is no incentive for the ruling parties to change the system.
- Atomic Wedgie

Gerrymandering is also such a (frank)ing joke. Politicians pick their voters instead of voters picking their politicians.


It's pathetic

This guy!

Goes back down to the very essence of who you are.

The most basic example I can think of since we're on hockey buzz is... That energy you feel when you walk into the ACC and what momentum is.. Consciousness is more powerful than we believe.
- CanadianBodmon

I shall hold you to the promised explanation.

I always feel however that the word "quantum" is complete over- and mis-used. When dealing with the macroscopic, quanta rarely come into play.

It's a bizarre yet simple answer: the US electoral system is a giant fraudulent mess.

You know how we have independent bodies to organize elections, ensuring fair elections (Elections Canada, Elections Ontario, etc.)?

The US doesn't have any such system. The incumbent runs the election.

But wait, it gets worse: you know how you get enumerated once, and then you are ppretty much on the voting list for the rest of your life? And if you aren't, you just fill out a form or contact Elections Canada or Elections Ontario?

The US voter registration system was established to make it really, really hard for blacks to register. But the sad part is, the legacy of that system is that it gives the two ruling parties a completely unfair advantage, and they have a vested interest in keeping it that way; they will never finish with less than a silver medal.

To register to vote, you pretty much have to register as a Republican or a Democrat. You can register as an independent, but it is hard.

How can it be called democracy when the parties register you?

But as I said above, there is no incentive for the ruling parties to change the system.
- Atomic Wedgie

Isn't it also true that Obama wasn't born on US soil and you need to be to be prez??

Side note: Iraq government wrote an official report saying Obama is an alien

They we're trying him on the third LW with those 2. Having 3 scoring lines. 1 shut down.
- CanadianBodmon

This ^

Last I read my lines were correct.

Isn't corporate tax already at 15.5%?
- Aaron85

Here's something that may surprise you:

Ontario’s combined federal/provincial corporate income tax rate is lower than the combined federal/state corporate income tax rate in every US state.

Isn't it also true that Obama wasn't born on US soil and you need to be to be prez??

Side note: Iraq government wrote an official report saying Obama is an alien

- CanadianBodmon

You people who believe that are such idiots.

The whole "Obama is an alien" story is just a ruse - a distraction so you don't ask questions about the sasquatch.

I pity you.

They we're trying him on the third LW with those 2. Having 3 scoring lines. 1 shut down.
- CanadianBodmon

Once again, I raise my objection to not having Mike Richards on the team.

Here's something that may surprise you:

Ontario’s combined federal/provincial corporate income tax rate is lower than the combined federal/state corporate income tax rate in every US state.
- Atomic Wedgie

No it does not.

Didn't answer my question though