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philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
Kopecky also apparently got injured too. Slovenian player may have targeted his head...

Sucks for Uncle Dale and the Suncats.

- prd797


Nice one PRD
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 15 @ 12:01 PM ET
Avoid overtimes by giving 3 points to a regulation win instead of 2. Then we would see more intensity at the end of games for teams that need that extra point........ as well as reward the teams that deserve it.
- Hawkytalk

That's what they are doing in Sochi.

U.S. only got 2 points today, Russia 1.
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Feb 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
Its all about television and time allotted to complete a game - both at the Olympics and in the NHL.
- RickJ


Aye, and coupling that factor with the timing aspect of this condensed Olympic schedule = a bad idea for all parties involved.

Imagine a team involved in 3 triple OT games in the span of four days: would be a great spectacle for the viewer to some extent, but horribly difficult minutes for those players.

As much as I hate the shootout, I am just fine with it playing out this way. Less of a chance for the Hawks over there to get even more burned out then they already would be.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
That's what they are doing in Sochi.

U.S. only got 2 points today, Russia 1.

- RickJ


Long live the SHOOTOUT
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Feb 15 @ 12:20 PM ET
Oh, and congratulations to Jaromir Jagr on turning 102...
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 15 @ 12:34 PM ET
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 15 @ 12:39 PM ET

- Ogilthorpe2


LOL...just bust'n brah.....won't lie. I like shootouts in the regular season. I like the skill, the shooting, the deking....i LIKE THE SHOOTOUT.

But as a means of settling Olympic games and the playoff games in the NHL playoffs ? Nah.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 15 @ 12:43 PM ET
Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus
Kane was sitting next to Backes during shotoout, who was describing Oshie's vast array of shootout moves to him. #Blackhawks #Blues #BFFs
fvineze
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.10.2011

Feb 15 @ 1:08 PM ET
So would someone help me understand why the shoot out was the Oshie And Kovalchuk show? Not only did the SO suck, but the fact it was limited to a small few just affirmed how stupid it is as a determinant.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Feb 15 @ 1:52 PM ET
So would someone help me understand why the shoot out was the Oshie And Kovalchuk show? Not only did the SO suck, but the fact it was limited to a small few just affirmed how stupid it is as a determinant.
- fvineze

I guess it is a rule in these international games. I remember the World Juniors a few years ago was the Toews, Kane, and Jack Johnson show. Toews scored 3 huge goals and 3 different ways.
Ogilthorpe2
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Feb 15 @ 2:01 PM ET
LOL...just bust'n brah.....won't lie. I like shootouts in the regular season. I like the skill, the shooting, the deking....i LIKE THE SHOOTOUT.

But as a means of settling Olympic games and the playoff games in the NHL playoffs ? Nah.

- philco28

If it's an acceptable way to determine a winner, maybe they should just skip the game altogether and go right to the shootout. That way no more NHL players get hurt, and Quick/Oshie can bring home the gold all by themselves. Go TEAM.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:05 PM ET
Also the AHL is not known for defense.
- jhawk59


Yeah, this is somewhat true. It's more of a sloppy, uncoordinated game in the A. However, this idea doesn't doesn't excuse the fact that team the defense in Rockford is flat out horrible as a whole. Also, it shouldn't be viewed as a knock to Morin either. That kid has played his tail off for the last month, and really wants another shot in the NHL.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:06 PM ET
If it's an acceptable way to determine a winner, maybe they should just skip the game altogether and go right to the shootout. That way no more NHL players get hurt, and Quick/Oshie can bring home the gold all by themselves. Go TEAM.
- Ogilthorpe2


Preach on, brother!
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:07 PM ET
Oh, and congratulations to Jaromir Jagr on turning 102...
- prd797


MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Feb 15 @ 2:13 PM ET
If it's an acceptable way to determine a winner, maybe they should just skip the game altogether and go right to the shootout. That way no more NHL players get hurt, and Quick/Oshie can bring home the gold all by themselves. Go TEAM.
- Ogilthorpe2


Hockey's a team game. In spite of the outcome, I don't like that the game was decided by a combined 5 players.
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
LOL...just bust'n brah.....won't lie. I like shootouts in the regular season. I like the skill, the shooting, the deking....i LIKE THE SHOOTOUT.

But as a means of settling Olympic games and the playoff games in the NHL playoffs ? Nah.

- philco28

I smell the stench of Buttman's influence in the IOC's hockey rule making.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 15 @ 2:25 PM ET
I am with you, Ogie...

Why play an entire game, then an overtime,if the one on one os they way you settle it?

The shoot-out has passed it's shelf life...
it now is SO prevalent and determines play teams over non playoff teams.

I just think if you had 3 on 3 there would be SO MANY MORE goals scored, that actually involved 3 attackers versus 3 defenders and goaltender and that is the RIGHT way a team sport should have an outcome.

Did either Russia or Canada DESERVE a loss?
(maybe Russia really don't deserve it after quick accidentally dislodged his own net....)

An aside is as hawk fans we are going to have many mant years of strong competition against the Blues in the future, and the fact that Oshie and Tarasenko are so good in the shoot-out, it is almost as if a team plays Hitch's style and just hangs around, get's a tie, and that is all they need to get a WIN...they only need to TIE...and then do the shoot-out.

I have never liked the shoot-out whether the hawks win it or not....and actually tuck them in my head as TIES...and have trouble remembering who had more one on one wins.

On another note:
My favorite part of the Russia USA game was when the the Russina defender and garbbed backus' stick after the check and the play went up ice and backus started punching the guy to the head AND THE RUSSIAN FANS were going CRAZY, thinking there should be a call...so funny!
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 15 @ 2:37 PM ET
If it's an acceptable way to determine a winner, maybe they should just skip the game altogether and go right to the shootout. That way no more NHL players get hurt, and Quick/Oshie can bring home the gold all by themselves. Go TEAM.
- Ogilthorpe2


It's true...the Olympics are a RISK for all involved...in the micro & macro sense.
Btw...are you watching the Olympics ?
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 15 @ 2:39 PM ET
I smell the stench of Buttman's influence in the IOC's hockey rule making.
- Q...argh


That A-HOLE's stench is omnipresent globally 4 sure
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:39 PM ET
You switched to iphone just so you could comment on Hockeybuzz.com?
Just kidding

- BlazinMike


Well, that's partly the reason.

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 15 @ 2:41 PM ET
Today's article....

US defeats Russia 3-2 as TJ Oshie wins it in a shootout. Controversy, but int'l rules are different-My Fox Chicago:
http://bit.ly/1bU6Hrg

on Twitter@AlCimaglia
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Feb 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
It's true...the Olympics are a RISK for all involved...in the micro & macro sense.
Btw...are you watching the Olympics ?

- philco28

Saw the last 10 minutes of the second period this morning while I was waiting for Mrs. Ogi to finish powdering her nose, other than that No.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 15 @ 2:44 PM ET
It took months but I finally have settled on the ranks of the top 259 prospects in this "below average and wait along time to see if they even can be players" 2014 draft class.

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2014/

Now all I have to do is going back and making sure every prospect has a bit of a description.

The Projected Undrafted players is an area I put the next fifty, but was limited to ten in each position...this is an area of the site the owner had set up for the exess NFL & NBA possibles, so I used it.

There are STILL another 30 in the database I had no room to show...

If you are going to go to the site to get a look-see remember how it works.

Click on a player, and if I wrote something it will show up.
Click on a team and you will see whatver players are in their present slottings. (and remember the slots are based on current standing and will change...)
Click on T and who will see how the picks can into the teams possession.

and the REDRAFTS section is just me telling YOU who would have gone earlier/later in the drafts that took place four draft classes before...they still get re-alligned as players taken finally start making their mark in the bigs...

... and if you find the ton of typos I surely made, can you PM me to save me embarrassment?


wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 15 @ 2:44 PM ET
Soory about the repeat post...
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
So would someone help me understand why the shoot out was the Oshie And Kovalchuk show? Not only did the SO suck, but the fact it was limited to a small few just affirmed how stupid it is as a determinant.
- fvineze


Oshie is the best shootout player in the NHL....He can shoot everytime in Intl' play.

US defeats Russia 3-2 as TJ Oshie wins it in a shootout. Controversy, but int'l rules are different-My Fox Chicago:
http://bit.ly/1bU6Hrg
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