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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 7:01 PM ET
I think Leddy fetches A LOT in return should Stan choose to shop him. I think his upside as a puck-moving defenseman is very high and my guess is a lot of GMs feel similarly. I believe Leddy will be playing long after Oduya is out of the NHL and his true potential probably won't be reached for another few years so, all things being equal, I don't think there's any choice if the choice is between which one of those two to keep, though salary cap concerns may mandate keeping Oduya and moving Leddy.
- Baaaaaaannerman!

such a brilliant skater and great at rushing the puck.

but when one looks at his minutes, offensive zone starts and qualcomp; I think his contribution might be abit skewed.
that said; I can think of tons of teams that would be interested, but I also think alot gm's would be hesitant to pay a ton.

what does he look like as a top pairing guy with tougher competition instead of being sheltered behind keith and seabrook? playing 23-24 minutes a night instead of closer to 16 like he is now?

so if you've got the pieces to shelter him, you also probably don't have a ton of value to give up. (picks/prospects is suppose) and if you don't, huge gamble to mortage a lot of value on an unproven big minute guy
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 12 @ 7:19 PM ET
Sounds like Dahlbeck is a gem at times in Rockford. Do you think he could take over the #Project Brookbank/Rozy role next season Eli? Looking forward to Johns too.
- ikeane


I believe that Dahlbeck has a good shot at platooning with Roszival next season.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:06 PM ET
such a brilliant skater and great at rushing the puck.

but when one looks at his minutes, offensive zone starts and qualcomp; I think his contribution might be abit skewed.
that said; I can think of tons of teams that would be interested, but I also think alot gm's would be hesitant to pay a ton.

what does he look like as a top pairing guy with tougher competition instead of being sheltered behind keith and seabrook? all with 23-24 minutes a night instead of closer to 16 like he is now?

so if you've got the pieces to shelter him, you also probably don't have a ton of value to give up. (picks/prospects is suppose) and if you don't, huge gamble to mortage a lot of value on an unproven big minute guy

- hugefemale dog77


Good points, beaotch. Some here love Leddy and some don't like him much because they feel he's not developing enough. I think you played the middle well on this one.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:16 PM ET
I believe that Dahlbeck has a good shot at platooning with Roszival next season.
- EKolb13


That would be great. If he's the 7th d-man he can be sent down to Rockford when he doesn't play or if needed to bring up an extra forward. Roster (in)flexibility with the extra guys this year has caused a bit of trouble, imo.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:24 PM ET
Good points, beaotch. Some here love Leddy and some don't like him much because they feel he's not developing enough. I think you played the middle well on this one.
- mohel

I know I did.

didn't feel like getting into another conversation about Canada's political system with captain republican again.

long story short; talented skater, great off the rush, but totally sheltered and given easy minutes. an interesting player, but I doubt you'd get a ton for him.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:26 PM ET
I believe that Dahlbeck has a good shot at platooning with Roszival next season.
- EKolb13


Phuck E.F. Hutton...when EK speaks on Baby Hogs....listen up y'all

philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:29 PM ET
I know I did.

didn't feel like getting into another conversation about Canada's political system with captain republican again.

long story short; talented skater, great off the rush, but totally sheltered and given easy minutes. an interesting player, but I doubt you'd get a ton for him.

- hugefemale dog77


Not completely true...he logged TOP 4 MINUTES for good stretches in 2011-12

http://espn.go.com/nhl/pl...5447/year/2012/nick-leddy
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:36 PM ET
I know I did.

didn't feel like getting into another conversation about Canada's political system with captain republican again.

long story short; talented skater, great off the rush, but totally sheltered and given easy minutes. an interesting player, but I doubt you'd get a ton for him.

- hugefemale dog77


I could have said that better - meant that the middle is probably most accurate in this case. Leddy is an RFA after next season, so I think he'll get at least until next year's trade deadline before he could be dealt. Not saying that I think he will be traded, just that there's time for further analysis.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:39 PM ET
Sid Caesar, 91: an absolute comic genius who, with Carl Reiner, Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, Larry Gelbart and others, created some of best sketch comedy in history on early TV.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:47 PM ET
Not completely true...he logged TOP 4 MINUTES for good stretches in 2011-12

http://espn.go.com/nhl/pl...5447/year/2012/nick-leddy

- philco28


I think that ended when Pizza Man arrived. Could be a coincidence, but from then on the Hawks (notable exception - Phoenix series) have been cooking. I think they decided they Leddy wasn't ready for the Top 4.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:53 PM ET
Watching the Ogi speed-skating, and I think I saw Handzus skating in the 1000 meters. Just missed a medal...
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:53 PM ET
I think that ended when Pizza Man arrived. Could be a coincidence, but from then on the Hawks (notable exception - Phoenix series) have been cooking. I think they decided they Leddy wasn't ready for the Top 4.
- mohel


Good deduction Mo
and I think your recall is spot on. I was simply pointing out that Nick hasn't always been so sheltered. He actually did play pretty well during his promotion as i recall and enjoyed his best offensive season (3g, 34 a in 82 games) in just his 2nd year in the league.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:59 PM ET
Good deduction Mo
and I think your recall is spot on. I was simply pointing out that Nick hasn't always been so sheltered. He actually did play pretty well during his promotion as i recall and enjoyed his best offensive season (3g, 34 a in 82 games) in just his 2nd year in the league.

- philco28


I agree. Leddy was being asked to do too much at too young an age, imo. What he's doing now is a better developmental track, and I hope he keeps climbing.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:10 PM ET
I agree. Leddy was being asked to do too much at too young an age, imo. What he's doing now is a better developmental track, and I hope he keeps climbing.
- mohel


Agree here - Leddy's going to be fine...he was basically thrown into Soupy's spot the other season and the kid wasn't ready. Oduya, who I've never been a huge fan of, has done quite well from when he first arrived. Doesn't hurt he's playing with Hammer.

Meanwhile got the DVR set for tomorrow...US - Slovakia and Canada - Norway. And the US plays the Ruskies at 630am central on Saturday.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 12 @ 9:17 PM ET

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philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:26 PM ET
I agree. Leddy was being asked to do too much at too young an age, imo. What he's doing now is a better developmental track, and I hope he keeps climbing.
- mohel


His present upward trajectory is definitely better served as the 5th d-man. His recent willingness to engage physically is most welcome and hopefully something he implements permanently into his game.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:28 PM ET
@ESPNChiHawks: Brandon Pirri is named the MVP of the AHL All-Star Game. He had two goals and an assist for the AHL team in a 7-2 win over Farjestad BK.

Pirri is upping his trade value.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:29 PM ET
@ESPNChiHawks: Brandon Pirri is named the MVP of the AHL All-Star Game. He had two goals and an assist for the AHL team in a 7-2 win over Farjestad BK.

Pirri is upping his trade value.

- DarthKane


Nice to see, but i don't put much stock in non-contact, shinny games.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:31 PM ET
Nice to see, but i don't put much stock in non-contact, shinny games.
- philco28



Neither do I, I was being sarcastic but forgot the red font.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:33 PM ET
Neither do I, I was being sarcastic but forgot the red font.
- DarthKane


mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:34 PM ET
@ESPNChiHawks: Brandon Pirri is named the MVP of the AHL All-Star Game. He had two goals and an assist for the AHL team in a 7-2 win over Farjestad BK.

Pirri is upping his trade value.

- DarthKane


Still could be the Hawks' 2C of the future. Or not, but you never know.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:38 PM ET
Still could be the Hawks' 2C of the future. Or not, but you never know.
- mohel


I'll go with "or not".
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:39 PM ET
@ESPNChiHawks: Brandon Pirri is named the MVP of the AHL All-Star Game. He had two goals and an assist for the AHL team in a 7-2 win over Farjestad BK.

Pirri is upping his trade value.

- DarthKane


How come it's still on - 2nd period - on CSN - they're billing it as live.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
I'll go with "or not".
- DarthKane


Yeah, me too, but stranger things have happened.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
Not completely true...he logged TOP 4 MINUTES for good stretches in 2011-12

http://espn.go.com/nhl/pl...5447/year/2012/nick-leddy

- philco28

for sure. didn't mean ever, just where he's at now.
and he wasn't super effective when he was in that spot.. adequate and even showed flashes, but rightfully sheltered at present.

I don't mean to slag him. talented player with a fair amount of upside, especially when u have some real minute eaters in front of him. and his potential alone is gonna garner some value.
I just took exception at A TON of value as previously mentioned. but that's just semantics really.

throw him to the wolves on edmontons sorry excuse for a defensive corp and id wager it wouldn't be pretty at present
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