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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM ET
Berube said in the presser he planned to split Gus and Mez over the last two games beforehand.........for what its worth
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM ET
Interesting.....I wouldn't have guessed that from the highlights. But those aren't a reliable indicator of the game flow of course
- Just5


No, they weren't (the highlights), it wasn't that the ice was tilted, but they were heavily outshot in the 2nd period & and after the first goal we didn't get a shot for something like 10 minutes (in the 2nd period)

If Emery wasn't on his game we could have easily lost.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
No, they weren't (the highlights), it wasn't that the ice was tilted, but they were heavily outshot in the 2nd period & and after the first goal we didn't get a shot for something like 10 minutes (in the 2nd period)

If Emery wasn't on his game we could have easily lost.

- puckhead17


Flyers are playing with intensity, but they need to tighten up defensively. Giving up too many shots lately.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM ET
Berube said in the presser he planned to split Gus and Mez over the last two games beforehand.........for what its worth
- Just5

Don't like this at all... They're not goalies. Stick with one unless they play horribly.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM ET
Flyers are playing with intensity, but they need to tighten up defensively. Giving up too many shots lately.
- MJL


Where are these shots coming from though. Lava's team really was not known for giving up many shots, but they were known of course giving up the odd man rushes and giving up A quality chances. I have no problem with my team keeping things to the perimeter and checking tightly in close to the net, which seems to be the Flyers MO when they're on their game. It's a lot to ask, with this group, to contain/control both.

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM ET
Flyers are playing with intensity, but they need to tighten up defensively. Giving up too many shots lately.
- MJL


Still too loose in the defensive zone, I know I shouldn't complain about winning, but the LA, Colorado & Calgary games could have easily been loses.
Not like a 19 day layoff will help matters any.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 8:33 PM ET
Final/SO

Rimouski - 1
Halifax - 0
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
Where are these shots coming from though. Lava's team really was not known for giving up many shots, but they were known of course giving up the odd man rushes and giving up A quality chances. I have no problem with my team keeping things to the perimeter and checking tightly in close to the net, which seems to be the Flyers MO when they're on their game. It's a lot to ask, with this group, to contain/control both.
- Just5


problem is even a team taking a ton of perimeter shots can still bite you on traffic/deflections & put backs on rebounds, they are still playing too lose, too much time & space is given to the opposition.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
Still too loose in the defensive zone, I know I shouldn't complain about winning, but the LA, Colorado & Calgary games could have easily been loses.
Not like a 19 day layoff will help matters any.

- puckhead17


The Colorado game was a bit concerning to me. They were really running around. Those kids are fast as hell though, I couldnt believe Duchesne has a goal in his last 18 games or something
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM ET
The Colorado game was a bit concerning to me. They were really running around. Those kids are fast as hell though, I couldnt believe Duchesne has a goal in his last 18 games or something
- Just5


yeah, that is crazy, but I think most of the Avalanche gunners have hit dry spells.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM ET
Where are these shots coming from though. Lava's team really was not known for giving up many shots, but they were known of course giving up the odd man rushes and giving up A quality chances. I have no problem with my team keeping things to the perimeter and checking tightly in close to the net, which seems to be the Flyers MO when they're on their game. It's a lot to ask, with this group, to contain/control both.
- Just5


Shots per game this year are about the same as under Laviolette. But I agree, they gave a lot more odd man rushes under Laviolette.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM ET
Don't like this at all... They're not goalies. Stick with one unless they play horribly.
- Yosimar89


Have to believe they'll look to move Mez and get what they can when the break is over.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM ET
Have to believe they'll look to move Mez and get what they can when the break is over.
- jstross


If MAB is looking good with the Phantoms, I actually move him for anything.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM ET
If MAB is looking good with the Phantoms, I actually move him for anything.
- Just5


Move them both. Anything+Anything just might = something. In a cap world accumulating assets not in your future is key.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM ET
Move them both. Anything+Anything just might = something. In a cap world accumulating assets not in your future is key.
- jstross


Why isn't MAB in their future? He's an upcoming RFA

My previous post, I meant move Mez for anything
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM ET
Move them both. Anything+Anything just might = something. In a cap world accumulating assets not in your future is key.
- jstross


curious, why would they move any defenseman out for an asset/pick, etc, being 1 point out of 2nd in the division?
Especially when Kimmo is one blocked shot away from being out?
He and Grossman both left early today.
I don't see Mez getting moved, need the 7 man depth, (Gill has taken roots to the press box)
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM ET
curious, why would they move any defenseman out for an asset/pick, etc, being 1 point out of 2nd in the division?
Especially when Kimmo is one blocked shot away from being out?
He and Grossman both left early today.
I don't see Mez getting moved, need the 7 man depth, (Gill has taken roots to the press box)

- puckhead17


I agree that depth on D is important. But I would be fine moving Meszaros if they need to create cap space to make a move that helps the future. You can always add a depth defenseman similar to how they added Huskins last year if need be.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
curious, why would they move any defenseman out for an asset/pick, etc, being 1 point out of 2nd in the division?
Especially when Kimmo is one blocked shot away from being out?
He and Grossman both left early today.
I don't see Mez getting moved, need the 7 man depth, (Gill has taken roots to the press box)

- puckhead17


It's never been, IMO, a good idea to chase a long shot like they did last year. I wanted assets, but the Flyers went for it. No wrong or right, just gets tougher and tougher to recover in the future. If Mez isn't a top 6 Dman on this team he should be traded for an asset or 2. Maybe add some $$ if you can to get more in return. If MAB is ready it makes it even more desirable. I'd also resign Downie if we think he's in the future plans, if not I'd seriously look at a contender willing to overpay. Just me. Don't think this team can win a cup at this time.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 8 @ 9:00 PM ET
Why isn't MAB in their future? He's an upcoming RFA

My previous post, I meant move Mez for anything

- Just5


My bad. Cold medicine and alcohol don't mix. If MAB is doing well then it makes Mez even more expendable.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 9:00 PM ET
It's never been, IMO, a good idea to chase a long shot like they did last year. I wanted assets, but the Flyers went for it. No wrong or right, just gets tougher and tougher to recover in the future. If Mez isn't a top 6 Dman on this team he should be traded for an asset or 2. Maybe add some $$ if you can to get more in return. If MAB is ready it makes it even more desirable. I'd also resign Downie if we think he's in the future plans, if not I'd seriously look at a contender willing to overpay. Just me. Don't think this team can win a cup at this time.
- jstross


IMO it seems highly unlikely they'd bring Downie back for even similar money he's making now. He'd have to take a pay cut if things are status quo with him.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:03 PM ET
I agree that depth on D is important. But I would be fine moving Meszaros if they need to create cap space to make a move that helps the future. You can always add a depth defenseman similar to how they added Huskins last year if need be.
- MJL


that depends, is another guy coming in here by seasons end?

if not, you move Meszaros, play Gustafsson, & then an injury occurs to maybe Kimmo, then what?
Then other GM's know you need a "filler" defenseman & pry a 2nd from you?
as always, it depends on what else they have in mind to do
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
It's never been, IMO, a good idea to chase a long shot like they did last year. I wanted assets, but the Flyers went for it. No wrong or right, just gets tougher and tougher to recover in the future. If Mez isn't a top 6 Dman on this team he should be traded for an asset or 2. Maybe add some $$ if you can to get more in return. If MAB is ready it makes it even more desirable. I'd also resign Downie if we think he's in the future plans, if not I'd seriously look at a contender willing to overpay. Just me. Don't think this team can win a cup at this time.
- jstross


Sure, but that depends if he is, or if there are any other moves on the horizon?

I hate the idea of just dumping Downie for nothing, that would mean they just gave Talbot away.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:06 PM ET
My bad. Cold medicine and alcohol don't mix. If MAB is doing well then it makes Mez even more expendable.
- jstross



ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 8 @ 9:07 PM ET
Sure, but that depends if he is, or if there are any other moves on the horizon?

I hate the idea of just dumping Downie for nothing, that would mean they just gave Talbot away.

- puckhead17


The problem with Downie is the emergence of Raffl to play anywhere in the line-up. They wanted a little more scoring punch on the third line and unbeknownst to them, Raffl appears he can carry that load effectively in the top 9.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
Sure, but that depends if he is, or if there are any other moves on the horizon?

I hate the idea of just dumping Downie for nothing, that would mean they just gave Talbot away.

- puckhead17


Im ok with it bc really theres guys like a Talbot available every summer. We didn't give up anything to get Talbot, so it's no loss really.
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