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hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 11 @ 5:05 PM ET
There is a Doctor and Nurse shortage in every province.
- Oilhab

I can't speak to other provinces. Then again, I can't really speak to Quebec at this point either. Maybe I'm wrong. But...that can't be....
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:06 PM ET
Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province.
- hscesq


Yeah, somewhere between this and the constant flogging.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:09 PM ET
Those Doc unions are rough characters.
- hscesq

The unions is in reference to the too much bureaucracy

The HEU, and the Nurses Unions create that bureaucracy, and good luck fighting the unions to try and get rid of some of those managerial positions to make way for more workers
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:10 PM ET
I can't speak to other provinces. Then again, I can't really speak to Quebec at this point either. Maybe I'm wrong. But...that can't be....
- hscesq


The Physcian shortage is brought up in every federal election, even though the federal government has little to do to help with the situation.

I can't think of any province that could say, damn we have too many doctors and i wish i would have to wait longer to see one.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:10 PM ET
Not the charter. But yes to language.
- hscesq

Jesus (frank)... they weren't meant to be in QC if they leave because of the language.

Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

Feb 11 @ 5:11 PM ET
Yeah, somewhere between this and the constant flogging.
- _nay_


Par exemple, au 31 mars 2012, la dette brute du secteur public québécois (dette du gouvernement à laquelle on additionne les dettes des réseaux de la santé et de l'éducation, celles des sociétés d'État et celles des municipalités) était de 71% du PIB. En considérant les actifs d'Hydro-Québec, elle passe à 35% du PIB (lorsque l'on considère tous les actifs, financiers et non financiers, de l'État).

http://quebec.huffingtonp...y-gagne-ou_b_4714083.html
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:11 PM ET
I can't speak to other provinces. Then again, I can't really speak to Quebec at this point either. Maybe I'm wrong. But...that can't be....
- hscesq

It is.

Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

Feb 11 @ 5:13 PM ET
The unions is in reference to the too much bureaucracy

The HEU, and the Nurses Unions create that bureaucracy, and good luck fighting the unions to try and get rid of some of those managerial positions to make way for more workers

- Oilhab


No. There has been a increase of admins/bosses in hospitals that get paid to stay in their offices while they could have half of the amount of bosses right now and use that money instead in services(hiring nurses, increasing the salary of Docs), which is what is really important in the Healthcare.

There would be better/ more services provided, and it wouldn't cost a (frank)ing dollar.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:13 PM ET



i really am a huge QP mark

- DJL

He's like our Bo Dallas
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:14 PM ET
Par exemple, au 31 mars 2012, la dette brute du secteur public québécois (dette du gouvernement à laquelle on additionne les dettes des réseaux de la santé et de l'éducation, celles des sociétés d'État et celles des municipalités) était de 71% du PIB. En considérant les actifs d'Hydro-Québec, elle passe à 35% du PIB (lorsque l'on considère tous les actifs, financiers et non financiers, de l'État).

http://quebec.huffingtonp...y-gagne-ou_b_4714083.html

- Jean_Perron

http://quebec.huffingtonp...casseroles_b_4749201.html
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Feb 11 @ 5:16 PM ET
No. There has been a increase of admins/bosses in hospitals that get paid to stay in their offices while they could have half of the amount of bosses right now and use that money instead in services(hiring nurses, increasing the salary of Docs), which is what is really important in the Healthcare.

There would be better/ more services provided, and it wouldn't cost a (frank)ing dollar.

- Jean_Perron


Well, your probably right.

Like these cancer charities where the bulk of the money goes to administration instead of research.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:17 PM ET
Jesus (frank)... they weren't meant to be in QC if they leave because of the language.
- WaterBoy


I don't know about their but over here there are more and more Import doctors from the far east, and they have problems speaking english.

Shouldn't it be acceptable for them to not have a firm handle on both official languages if you need their talents?

I mean as long as the paitent can half understand one of the official languages shouldn't that be enough?
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:17 PM ET
I can't speak to other provinces. Then again, I can't really speak to Quebec at this point either. Maybe I'm wrong. But...that can't be....
- hscesq



Certainly a big shortage here in Newfoundland and this Gov been offering top dollar to attract DR's......While not the most attractive place to live for some, Money isn't the issue here it's nothing more than not enough available according to Gov..

WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:17 PM ET
Well, your probably right.

Like these cancer charities where the bulk of the money goes to administration instead of research.

- pete26

50% of the staff in most hospitals work in the administration


that's a 1for 1 ratio.


Ridiculous.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:19 PM ET
I don't know about their but over here there are more and more Import doctors from the far east, and they have problems speaking english.

Shouldn't it be acceptable for them to not have a firm handle on both official languages if you need their talents?

I mean as long as the paitent can half understand one of the official languages shouldn't that be enough?

- Oilhab

the official language in QC is french.

As for Alberta, I'd say if they can speak english.. it's all good.

No need to be billingual if you are qualified.

What howie is pointingat is not the language.. but the debate itself scaring off anglos.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
Certainly a big shortage here in Newfoundland and this Gov been offering top dollar to attract DR's......While not the most attractive place to live for some, Money isn't the issue here it's nothing more than not enough available according to Gov..
- Fruitcakenipple

so it's something else for the rest of canada but the language in qc...


Taabaaaarnak
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:21 PM ET
Go Habs Go
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:22 PM ET
No. There has been a increase of admins/bosses in hospitals that get paid to stay in their offices while they could have half of the amount of bosses right now and use that money instead in services(hiring nurses, increasing the salary of Docs), which is what is really important in the Healthcare.

There would be better/ more services provided, and it wouldn't cost a (frank)ing dollar.

- Jean_Perron


are those bosses not Ex. physicians who have climbed the union ladder and now have retired from active duty and have been given the cushy office job by the hospital.

They may not be in the union now, but their wages are based on what they acquired when in the union.

Unions are not the sole problem, but they are a part of the problem.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:23 PM ET
the official language in QC is french.

As for Alberta, I'd say if they can speak english.. it's all good.

No need to be billingual if you are qualified.

What howie is pointingat is not the language.. but the debate itself scaring off anglos.

- WaterBoy

I think people are not becoming doctors because they don't have the patience
Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

Feb 11 @ 5:23 PM ET
http://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/rabah-moulla/printemps-etudiant-ou-sont-passees-nos-casseroles_b_4749201.html
- WaterBoy


I believe most of the students were okay with the indexation.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:24 PM ET
the official language in QC is french.

As for Alberta, I'd say if they can speak english.. it's all good.

No need to be billingual if you are qualified.

What howie is pointingat is not the language.. but the debate itself scaring off anglos.

- WaterBoy


I thought you had to speak both English and French to work in Quebec.

Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:27 PM ET
I think people are not becoming doctors because they don't have the patience
- mr.peanut

it's also a lot of work to become one, and long hours once you become one, plus not many people want to be responsible for the lives of other people.

WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:29 PM ET
I think people are not becoming doctors because they don't have the patience
- mr.peanut

ding ding ding
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:30 PM ET
I thought you had to speak both English and French to work in Quebec.
- Oilhab



holy (frank)...


mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:30 PM ET
You guys didn't get it
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