Before we found out NJ would be playing Florida, a lot of people said that the year the Devils went to the Cup. Obviously different team now but if you make it to the playoffs you have a chance.
- Todd.Cordell

Completely agree Todd "there's always a chance", but the one thing we had that year was 2 scoring lines and 2 snipers in Parise and Kovy. Our top 2 lines cupboard is a bit bare this year when it comes to scoring

Gelinas or Henrique
- Colin Dambrauskas

Colin Dambrauskas creating a frakas.

Not going to happen. At least not for either of those players.

I hope you're kidding. No chance in hell the Devils move Zajac for Cammalleri.
- Todd.Cordell

I dont want Travis, I want the wife in town

NO! Because he's OLLLLD. And everyone knows, if you're 31 now.. you'll never be 21 tomorrow! Look at how bad he is, playing with Matt Stajan and Backlund with a horrible Calgary team. Look at his horrible numbers.. producing at a 27 goals per season pace. The guy is a bum. He's pathetic. He's ALWAYS injured. And he's old. He's so old. He should've retired when he got the concussion. He's got nothing left. Brain is mush. no skill. no drive. no talent. no speed. no heart. no size. too old.

Surely we need a Gagner.. who's never had more than 47 points in a season, who's YOUNG, and has had an 18 goal season, in 5 full years + the lockout. We need Hemsky, who's injuries have caught up with him, and has lacked any production since 2010/11 season. Bring him here and we'll revitalize him playing with Elias! He's 30 so he's ok!
Bring in Yakupov! .. because he has the hockey sense and an attitude committed to winning that can help us win!

Nonono.. overpay for Moulson or Vanek. It's not like their asking price will be through the roof or anything.

Stay FARRR far away from Cam. Actually just stay far away from everyone. Lets rebuild through the draft!! Let's ice an embarrassing product, have all of our massive fanbase continue to support us, like we know they will, so we don't end up moving, and we'll be a contender in no time! It'll only take 5 years! Schneider will be down for that plan. Jagr and Elias can keep it up for 5 years right? And by that time Matteau, Boucher, and even Henrique will be able to carry the team!! Maybe Zajac will find his scoring touch too! Hey at least Sal, Volch, Zid will be gone and all of our 18-21 year old Dmen will be absolute studs! It's obvious this is the way.

We talked about this before but I dont recall if you liked the idea or not I would rather try and send Matteau or Santini or Severson to you guys for Baertchi as he seems to not be a Burke player.
- blizzzard

Agreed.

Severson could be a hell of a defense man maybe Henrique for Monahan I am honestly glad Feaster didnt try and offer sheet Adam kid is a hell of a player even plus minus 5 pp goals excellent pker decent production 14 pims he is a guy that will rarely make a stupid play or take a penalty to put the team down I really like what he brings some scream he needs to produce more but he is finally seeing some constant linemates and playing his natural position where as for most of the first half he was juggled on the wing and never played on the same line for more then 2 games all try and find a combination to get Ryder and Brunner going.
- blizzzard

I really dont see the Devils being in the race for a rental either, especially not having this upcoming 1st, just doesnt make sense. However, I think the appetite for rentals is getting more scarier each year especially the Vanek fiasco & what Snow has given up. That said, you may be on to a deal Lou & Burke may work on to allow everyone to hang their hats on: For example & it's just an example:
Cammi, Baerstche & Flames 2015 2nd round pick (which will be almost like a late 1st)
for maybe Larsson or Gelinas & NJ 2015 1st
Something along that line. Maybe Calgary eats a bit of Cammi's salary/cap as well, we have tons of cap space to tweak a deal & make work. Just food for thought.

NO! Because he's OLLLLD. And everyone knows, if you're 31 now.. you'll never be 21 tomorrow! Look at how bad he is, playing with Matt Stajan and Backlund with a horrible Calgary team. Look at his horrible numbers.. producing at a 27 goals per season pace. The guy is a bum. He's pathetic. He's ALWAYS injured. And he's old. He's so old. He should've retired when he got the concussion. He's got nothing left. Brain is mush. no skill. no drive. no talent. no speed. no heart. no size. too old.

Surely we need a Gagner.. who's never had more than 47 points in a season, who's YOUNG, and has had an 18 goal season, in 5 full years + the lockout. We need Hemsky, who's injuries have caught up with him, and has lacked any production since 2010/11 season. Bring him here and we'll revitalize him playing with Elias! He's 30 so he's ok!
Bring in Yakupov! .. because he has the hockey sense and an attitude committed to winning that can help us win!

Nonono.. overpay for Moulson or Vanek. It's not like their asking price will be through the roof or anything.

Stay FARRR far away from Cam. Actually just stay far away from everyone. Lets rebuild through the draft!! Let's ice an embarrassing product, have all of our massive fanbase continue to support us, like we know they will, so we don't end up moving, and we'll be a contender in no time! It'll only take 5 years! Schneider will be down for that plan. Jagr and Elias can keep it up for 5 years right? And by that time Matteau, Boucher, and even Henrique will be able to carry the team!! Maybe Zajac will find his scoring touch too!
- MartysBetter88

So much sarcasm it almost hurts

So much sarcasm it almost hurts
- Talking_hockey1

At this point, it's actually soothing to me.

No thanks. We're not making the playoffs and if we do we'll be out after the first round. I prefer we trade Jagr, perhaps Marty and some of our old defensemen (if possible) and re-tool for the future.

Trading for Camilleri is 3 steps backwards, while trading Jagr etc. is only 1 step backward but 3 steps forward toward a stronger team for years to come (i.e., sacrifice the short term for the long term)

Just my opinion though
- Crushers68

I believe that NJ will make the playoff's with the staus quo, as long as Schneider gets 3 of every 4 starts baring a significant injury. If they add anything that can fill a top 9 spot at forward all the better. They could really use a C that could win at least 50% of their faceoff's. Other than Zajac face offs are killing NJ.

Completely agree Todd "there's always a chance", but the one thing we had that year was 2 scoring lines and 2 snipers in Parise and Kovy. Our top 2 lines cupboard is a bit bare this year when it comes to scoring
- Crushers68

Good thing we don't have Parise on our team. We'd be handcuffed to that monstrosity! We don't want or need that. Good thing. I was nervous for a little bit during that offseason. close call.

I really dont see the Devils being in the race for a rental either, especially not having this upcoming 1st, just doesnt make sense. However, I think the appetite for rentals is getting more scarier each year especially the Vanek fiasco & what Snow has given up. That said, you may be on to a deal Lou & Burke may work on to allow everyone to hang their hats on: For example & it's just an example:
Cammi, Baerstche & Flames 2015 2nd round pick (which will be almost like a late 1st)
for maybe Larsson or Gelinas & NJ 2015 1st
Something along that line. Maybe Calgary eats a bit of Cammi's salary/cap as well, we have tons of cap space to tweak a deal & make work. Just food for thought.
- Kevin R

Don't mean to be rude, but there's no way you get Cammy Baertschi and a 2nd for that. That is a great return, don't get me wrong, but for a top 6 player, one of our top prospects and a very high second rounder that's a little much

Don't mean to be rude, but there's no way you get Cammy Baertschi and a 2nd for that. That is a great return, don't get me wrong, but for a top 6 player, one of our top prospects and a very high second rounder that's a little much
- Talking_hockey1

Dude, Gelinas and a 2015 first? I might just do it.

At this point, it's actually soothing to me.
- MartysBetter88

I dont disagree he would help for 3 years but its what we will give up and how much what we give up could of helped for 15 years it doesnt make sense to me. Burke isnt going to give him up and I dont know if you have seen some of the deals he has made but a good amount of them I really wonder how he talked the other gm into sending him what they did for what he gave up. Lombardi and Lebda for Franson? gigure and Beauchemin for Gardiner and Lupul The absolute pile of crap he sent to get Phaneuf Luke Schenn for JVR he isnt going to all of a sudden say you know what Lou you are absolutely right you have a been a gm longer then me I should give you a discount and not get full value for my player. He is simply not worth the price it will cost to get him.

Dude, Gelinas and a 2015 first? I might just do it.
- whipper334

For Baertschi Cammy and a second though? Baertschi and Cammy sure, but not the second.

I dont disagree he would help for 3 years but its what we will give up and how much what we give up could of helped for 15 years it doesnt make sense to me. Burke isnt going to give him up and I dont know if you have seen some of the deals he has made but a good amount of them I really wonder how he talked the other gm into sending him what they did for what he gave up. Lombardi and Lebda for Franson? gigure and Beauchemin for Gardiner and Lupul The absolute pile of crap he sent to get Phaneuf Luke Schenn for JVR he isnt going to all of a sudden say you know what Lou you are absolutely right you have a been a gm longer then me I should give you a discount and not get full value for my player. He is simply not worth the price it will cost to get him.
- blizzzard

I get what you're saying, Trust us, we understand. We were on the other side of that Phaneuf trade remember? Not to mention the Olli Jokinen trade that cost us two 1st rounders…

I doubt that it's going to happen. Usually when Devils news leaks into print it comes from the other side...probably an effort to drive up the price.

He's not a good fit. No need a add another small, struggling, streaky forward who has often been criticized for lack of work ethic.

For what it's worth, I thought Matteau had a very good WJC and he looks like he good be the type of skilled grinder that would fit very well into the offense. It took a few years to build this defensive depth in Albany. Why throw it away immediately? We have Pietila, Clermont, Kinkaid, Urbom and Burlon.

Nothing special and not enough to get anything done. But, thats what we have.

More likely, try to trade Brodeur for a first round pick to whoever loses the Miller sweepstakes then you can try to move a 2nd rounder+ for something.
- njdevils350

lack of work ethic? You don't know much do you. Cammi is a fitness freak and certainly does not lack work ethic. I also wouldn't call him streaky. Hard to call someone that scores on pace for 25-30 goals a year streaky.

For Baertschi Cammy and a second though? Baertschi and Cammy sure, but not the second.
- Talking_hockey1

I prefer Gelinas to Baertischi or Cammy.

His production on the PP has been nothing short of amazing. I believe I read some where he leads the league in power play points to power play time played. These types of assets don't grow on tree's. He may struggle defensively but he will learn & if he can maintain his points someone else can cover for him. Byfuglien is a train wreck defensively but a well sought after commodity, that would cost a fortune to acquire even with his warts.

In all seriousness, the asking price will be less than Moulson/Vanek. I think Cammalleri is better than Hemsky and Gagner (even tho Gagner is younger and overflowing with top line talent, as evidenced by his amazing history! And he's young! Gagner's young! )
We haven't seen Cammalleri with skilled players in quite some time, and he's played pretty well with them.
If we can re-sign him then I'm all for it, especially if it's around 5mil.
31 is not 35.. relax. I don't want him past 35 anyway, and I doubt Lou would do that. Ryder and Brunner are shorter deals too, we'd probably see that with Cam.

I DON'T want to make this move, or a move for any Edmonton superstar, if it involves Gelinas, Merrill, Larsson... maybe even Santini. I don't want to lose next year's 1st round pick either. He's just not worth that.

We have other D prospects that are still pretty valuable. But we can't ice 6 rookie D over the next 3 years, so some can be moved for some potentially beneficial pieces.

If Cammalleri averages 25g, 25a over the next 3 years for us, at a 5.5 cap hit, while not being terrible defensively, and potting some SO winners.. I'm for it.

what are the other options? This franchise can't survive a 3 year tank and wait for top picks. He won't be THE answer, but we may be able to ice a competitive team with him. When you get to the playoffs, ESPECIALLY with a good D and GREAT goalie, anything can happen.

any combo of
Cammalleri/Elias/Zubrus-Zajac-Jagr
Cammalleri-Elias-Zubrus/Brunner
Clowe-Henrique-Ryder
Carter-Gionta-Bernier

is a much better team than it is by taking Cammalleri out and putting in Loktionov or Josefson. He gives us more firepower, more finish, and I'm assuming and hoping.. some shootout success?

as long as it doesn't involve losing before mentioned players, I'm fine with him being the guy we give some assets for.

lack of work ethic? You don't know much do you. Cammi is a fitness freak and certainly does not lack work ethic. I also wouldn't call him streaky. Hard to call someone that scores on pace for 25-30 goals a year streaky.
- TandA4Flames

stop it. HE'S OLD!!!!!!!

Dude, Gelinas and a 2015 first? I might just do it.
- whipper334

At this point I wouldnt trade Gelinas straight up for Sven. Gelly has as a defenseman 22 pts in 45 gms Sven has 24 pts in 51. Also Larsson was really coming into his own before the injury and him and Gelinas where our best D pair at that time. Larsson is never going to put up big numbers but his hockey sense is very high and he plays sound defensively I just couldnt give both up for that sort of package. I would be hoping both and a 2nd would get us a much better player then Cami that is younger might not have the prospect added on but still I would want a Bobby Ryan or Evander Kane type return for both Gelly , Larsson and a 2nd.

At this point I wouldnt trade Gelinas straight up for Sven. Gelly has as a defenseman 22 pts in 45 gms Sven has 24 pts in 51. Also Larsson was really coming into his own before the injury and him and Gelinas where our best D pair at that time. Larsson is never going to put up big numbers but his hockey sense is very high and he plays sound defensively I just couldnt give both up for that sort of package. I would be hoping both and a 2nd would get us a much better player then Cami that is younger might not have the prospect added on but still I would want a Bobby Ryan or Evander Kane type return for both Gelly , Larsson and a 2nd.
- blizzzard

I think it would take Gelinas and a 1st for sure to get Ryan or Kane. Larsson in the minors isn't doing good things for his value either.. I'm guessing. It may be Larsson and a 1st too at this point. Ryan and Kane are proven top line wingers.

MartysBetter88.

If not moving any of those assets what is NJ giving up to potentially acquire a Cammalleri? I'm just asking. I don't want NJ to touch what few prospects they have. Nor do I want them to give up their 2nd round pick this season or their 1st next.

I want them to dredge the bargain bin & find anything we can get for essentially nothing more than moneI like NJ's chances come playoff time. They play playoff hockey all season & with a goalie like Schneider could shock teams come playoff time if healthy.

I think it would take Gelinas and a 1st for sure to get Ryan or Kane. Larsson in the minors isn't doing good things for his value either.. I'm guessing. It may be Larsson and a 1st too at this point. Ryan and Kane are proven top line wingers.
- MartysBetter88

Yea for sure but he said both Larsson and Gelinas so that is what Gelly is worth plus a former 4th over all pick who might just be finally coming into his own. No doubt we have done nothing but diminish the value of these guys with all these games Lou is playing to get Salvador and the other poop trio in hell I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if we completely ended up ruining both Larsson and Gelinas all for the sake of being to Loyal to Salvador who will never be a Devils great and Harrold and Volchenkov. Back to my point though if Both Larsson Gelinas and 2nd involved in the same trade I wouldnt except anything less the Evander Kane or Bobby Ryan.

MartysBetter88.

If not moving any of those assets what is NJ giving up to potentially acquire a Cammalleri? I'm just asking. I don't want NJ to touch what few prospects they have. Nor do I want them to give up their 2nd round pick this season or their 1st next.

I want them to dredge the bargain bin & find anything we can get for essentially nothing more than moneI like NJ's chances come playoff time. They play playoff hockey all season & with a goalie like Schneider could shock teams come playoff time if healthy.
- striker777

I would rather see if we can get Heatley for nothing then give up something for of significant value for Cami. Ultimately I hope Burke starts a bidding war with a team and said team takes him before Lou starts drinking his cool aid and blows his load on a rental. Heatley isnt have a horrible year and I think he would fit perfectly on that top lw spot with Zajac and Jagr and he will be able to keep up with them he is also on the last year if it doesnt work out you dump a defenseman that we needed to and made an effort without hurting our future.

At this point I wouldnt trade Gelinas straight up for Sven. Gelly has as a defenseman 22 pts in 45 gms Sven has 24 pts in 51. Also Larsson was really coming into his own before the injury and him and Gelinas where our best D pair at that time. Larsson is never going to put up big numbers but his hockey sense is very high and he plays sound defensively I just couldnt give both up for that sort of package. I would be hoping both and a 2nd would get us a much better player then Cami that is younger might not have the prospect added on but still I would want a Bobby Ryan or Evander Kane type return for both Gelly , Larsson and a 2nd.
- blizzzard

Sven has odles of upside, he could actually turn into your Kovalchuk light. My concern is Burke has been giving him the Kadri treatment. That concerns me. But we do have Porrier & Gaudreau coming with huge offensive upside as well, thus making Sven available but we have to get something you dont want to give up back. Cammi & Sven could inject instant offense for the Devils, I would eat some of Cammi salary so the Devils can still have cap space to add for a playoff run if need be but I would want that flip of our 2nd versus getting an earlier 1st. I dont see the Devils being that bad next year just because Scneider is an awesome goalie in itself & will be the bonafide #1 (I see a huge ar for h next year) & the difference between our 2nd & your 1st may not be that significant.