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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 6 @ 10:05 PM ET
Dave Isaac ‏@davegisaac 2m
Ed Snider calls Olympics a "farce." Says Giroux is "better than half the guys" on Team Canada. #Flyers


Now, I know the Chairman doesn't get a bunch of love here, but I agree with EVERY WORD that he said here.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:05 PM ET
I was going to bring that up and ask what you guy's thought of that. My opinion is that it's wrong. And it shouldn't happen. Team and job before Country in this case.
- MJL


I think it's an interesting case. Chara has done so much for that franchise and they are in good position to make the playoffs, so 2 games won't really matter all that much.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:06 PM ET
Exactly, but I guess stating that Streit isn't the team's best defenseman is the same as saying Streit sucks and isn't playing well. Go figure.
- MJL


The only reason I mentioned it was the Streit signing was being vilified most of the season and Homer really blew it by not resigning Carle. Long way to go and it's a risky 35+ contract, but considering the alternative so far so good.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:08 PM ET
The only reason I mentioned it was the Streit signing was being vilified most of the season and Homer really blew it by not resigning Carle. Long way to go and it's a risky 35+ contract, but considering the alternative so far so good.
- jstross


I was one who didn't like the Streit or Vinny deals. Streit has been good. I worry about his ability to sustain this for, at least, 2 more seasons. I have doubts about him being effective in his 4th season.

Flyers saying Mason wasn't injured, but was cramping up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:09 PM ET
The only reason I mentioned it was the Streit signing was being vilified most of the season and Homer really blew it by not resigning Carle. Long way to go and it's a risky 35+ contract, but considering the alternative so far so good.
- jstross


I have no problem with the Streit signing. He brings an element to the ice that's needed on this team. But rest assured that if and when Streit has a period where he struggles, he'll suck again. We see it with most players.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 6 @ 10:09 PM ET

Flyers saying Mason wasn't injured, but was cramping up.

- PhillySportsGuy


Even if he just had cramps, ain't no sin to give Razor a start on Saturday.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 10:11 PM ET



- Lexington Flyer

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 6 @ 10:11 PM ET
Even if he just had cramps, ain't no sin to give Razor a start on Saturday.
- johndewar


I wouldn't mind either way, but I might go back to Mason. He's been hot and about to get 2.5 weeks off. He's, also, getting two days between games.

Like I said, I see no problem giving Emery the start. They should beat Calgary with either in net if they play like they have recently.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:11 PM ET
Now, I know the Chairman doesn't get a bunch of love here, but I agree with EVERY WORD that he said here.
- johndewar


Well, one he's standing up for his guy, as he should. And secondly, it's not about who's a better player, and it never has been. If they were just ranking the players by who is the best player, 1-25 or whatever, Giroux would've made the team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:12 PM ET
Even if he just had cramps, ain't no sin to give Razor a start on Saturday.
- johndewar


I agree, but man was Mason good tonight. If he's not hurt, then play him, get another two points. Plenty of time to rest after that.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:12 PM ET
I have no problem with the Streit signing. He brings an element to the ice that's needed on this team. But rest assured that if and when Streit has a period where he struggles, he'll suck again. We see it with most players.
- MJL


I believe Streit is the heir apparent to be the QB on #1 PP unit when Kimmo is done. I could argue at this point in their careers, Streit is the better option right now. However, it's really splitting hairs. No real issue with the Streit contract.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:15 PM ET
Well, one he's standing up for his guy, as he should. And secondly, it's not about who's a better player, and it never has been. If they were just ranking the players by who is the best player, 1-25 or whatever, Giroux would've made the team.
- MJL


There are a number of questionable selections over Giroux. It seemed like they were cutting off their nose to spite their face.

There is something they didn't like about Giroux. I could see someone with influence hating Giroux similar to the way Burke talked about Ryan and Yandle.

I just have a hard time seeing how guys like Duchene were selected ahead of Giroux.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:15 PM ET
I believe Streit is the heir apparent to be the QB on #1 PP unit when Kimmo is done. I could argue at this point in their careers, Streit is the better option right now. However, it's really splitting hairs. No real issue with the Streit contract.
- ravishingone


On the PP, I agree. I'd have him on the first unit right now personally. He has a big shot. But he does make the 2nd unit better, so there's a catch 22.
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 6 @ 10:16 PM ET
I believe Streit is the heir apparent to be the QB on #1 PP unit when Kimmo is done. I could argue at this point in their careers, Streit is the better option right now. However, it's really splitting hairs. No real issue with the Streit contract.
- ravishingone


I want Streit on the first unit. I love Kimmo too, but Streit's shot is such a weapon.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 6 @ 10:17 PM ET
Well, one he's standing up for his guy, as he should. And secondly, it's not about who's a better player, and it never has been. If they were just ranking the players by who is the best player, 1-25 or whatever, Giroux would've made the team.
- MJL


Standing up for "his guys" is why former players love Snider. Everyone likes when their boss takes their side; I like seeing the Old Man pump G's tires.

And you're right. I know what Yzerman is trying to achieve with how he picked his team. I just think it's gonna fail. Miserably.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:17 PM ET
There are a number of questionable selections over Giroux. It seemed like they were cutting off their nose to spite their face.

There is something they didn't like about Giroux. I could see someone with influence hating Giroux similar to the way Burke talked about Ryan and Yandle.

I just have a hard time seeing how guys like Duchene were selected ahead of Giroux.

- PhillySportsGuy


I've said multiple times, I would have picked Giroux over Duchene. The only thing I can figure is they like to have that speed as an option. Not that Giroux is slow, but Duchene is really quick. Honestly, in my opinon, it has nothing to do with anything like that. It's that they view Giroux as a top scoring line Center, and they think that Crosby, Toews, and Getzlaff are better choices. That's all it comes down to in my opinion.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 6 @ 10:18 PM ET
There are a number of questionable selections over Giroux. It seemed like they were cutting off their nose to spite their face.

There is something they didn't like about Giroux. I could see someone with influence hating Giroux similar to the way Burke talked about Ryan and Yandle.

I just have a hard time seeing how guys like Duchene were selected ahead of Giroux.

- PhillySportsGuy


If Jeff Carter attains an Olympic medal, there is no god.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:18 PM ET
Standing up for "his guys" is why former players love Snider. Everyone likes when their boss takes their side; I like seeing the Old Man pump G's tires.

And you're right. I know what Yzerman is trying to achieve with how he picked his team. I just think it's gonna fail. Miserably.

- johndewar


I don't see what reason there is to think it's going to fail. But time will tell.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:19 PM ET
If Jeff Carter attains an Olympic medal, there is no god.
- johndewar


Love the Carter hate!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:19 PM ET
Standing up for "his guys" is why former players love Snider. Everyone likes when their boss takes their side; I like seeing the Old Man pump G's tires.

And you're right. I know what Yzerman is trying to achieve with how he picked his team. I just think it's gonna fail. Miserably.

- johndewar


It seems like they just wanted as much speed as possible. It's like going to the NFL draft and picking a bunch of guys who run great 40s
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 6 @ 10:21 PM ET
On the PP, I agree. I'd have him on the first unit right now personally. He has a big shot. But he does make the 2nd unit better, so there's a catch 22.
- MJL


His shot from the point in terms of accuracy and velocity is in the neighborhood of Pronger's shot. So much of the first PP unit is based on having two guys camped out in front, more then I think the 2nd PP unit who tends to look for Vinny on the half boards looking for the one timer.

Streit could probably get over 12+ goals per season if he was on the first PP unit. I just don't believe Kimmo is capable of that production at this stage of his career. However, both PP units are pretty effective currently constructed.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:22 PM ET
If Jeff Carter attains an Olympic medal, there is no god.
- johndewar


I know

What bothers me most is that people keep saying 'Oh, Giroux will have many chances to make the team.'

#1. That's not true. The Canadian center position is incredibly competitive. Guys like Toews, Crosby, Tavares, McKinnon, Getzlaf, Stamkos aren't going anywhere and are all young.

#2. The NHL may not allow players to go to the Olympics after this time.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:22 PM ET
If Jeff Carter attains an Olympic medal, there is no god.
- johndewar

i like seeing the flyers faithful get riled up and all, but carter of giroux is a travesty. i understand they probably have a specific role in mind for that slot and think carter better fills it than giroux, but i dont know. i would think giroux's playmaking would be a tremendous asset. i wouldnt say necessarily over half the the guys on there, but he definitely wouldve been on the roster had i been picking.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 6 @ 10:23 PM ET
I don't see what reason there is to think it's going to fail. But time will tell.
- MJL


Giving Sid his personal winger was kinda funny.

It's obvious Yzerman likes size on the wing and thinks it'll matter. Marty SL may not be big in stature, but he plays big.

I just think the big ice will eat this team up.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:23 PM ET
It seems like they just wanted as much speed as possible. It's like going to the NFL draft and picking a bunch of guys who run great 40s
- PhillySportsGuy

worked great for the raiders over this past decade or so
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