I don't think you will see the Kings Trading Richards, He's 3rd in Points and it would effect Carter. Maybe just use him as trade bait just to get him going like they did with Brown last year...

If they make a move, they need cap Space. And it's either Trading someone who makes millions or You might see them Trade Muzzin, Lewis, Fraser, This would give the Kings over 5.1 in Cap space.
Maybe even Nolan if they need even more space. These 4 combined have 32 points.

I sure hope Dean doesn't trade Toffoli away, Someday this kid is going to be really good..

I don't really think Gagner is the Answer for the King's, Perron would be a better choice and is LW... We need a LW...

I would rather not win the Cup this year, Then see the Kings make a bad trade that would hurt us in the long run. We will have money to pick up a UFA over then summer..

Some have pointed out that the NYI did not intend to sign Moulson after this season. If that's true then the vanek deal makes sense. The NYI tried obtaining an actual first line talent to play alongside Tavares. Obviously they have clicked but goaltending woes and a rough start have held them out of playoff contention.
If the NYI are able to land a first rd pick, prospect and roster player IMO they finish no worse after the moulson trade. Well worth the gamble of getting vanek for possible playoff birth and re signing

For example if LA offered Frattin or King, Vey and 1st rd pick the deal works out pretty good for NYI. They gave away a likely 2015 1st rd pick and 2nd rd pick with moulson but would get back three pieces too
We will have to see the return moulson brings as well to judge the deal

Personally I think Anahiem gets Vanek as a rental as they have the cap space, draft picks (also have Ottawa's 1st from Ryan deal) and young NHL talent ( Etem, Palmieri, Smith-Pelly, etc) to make solid offer

Personally I think Anahiem gets Vanek as a rental as they have the cap space, draft picks (also have Ottawa's 1st from Ryan deal) and young NHL talent ( Etem, Palmieri, Smith-Pelly, etc) to make solid offer
- northernKing

Works for me... as long as they get a first and a player or prospect, I'm happy!!!

You think GArth Snow is a little po'ed Vanek let the whole world know he is going to test the FA market July 1st? If it doesn't bring down his value, it sure limits his number of teams willing to pitch an offer for him.
- Itsjustarash

Do you think they might have figured that out for themselves when he wasn't signed by the trade deadline?

when vanek walks in the summer, you just shot your load of a promising scoring fwd, a top pair defenseman with a very good cap hit for years to come (relative to others) for what?
- hiway39

For a first rounder in a weak draft year, a second rounder in said draft and a forward who was going to command more on the free agent market than he was worth and they weren't going to re-sign anyway. In exchange for at least four months of Vanek, giving them exclusive right to negotiate and try to sell him on the team and the area. And there's still a possibility he re-signs over the summer. Personally I like that Snow took the chance. Maybe we should wait and see what he gets back for him before we throw stones.

when vanek walks in the summer, you just shot your load of a promising scoring fwd, a top pair defenseman with a very good cap hit for years to come (relative to others) for what?
- hiway39

A better chance for a cup this year.

XxNYIxX

Some have pointed out that the NYI did not intend to sign Moulson after this season. If that's true then the vanek deal makes sense. The NYI tried obtaining an actual first line talent to play alongside Tavares. Obviously they have clicked but goaltending woes and a rough start have held them out of playoff contention.
If the NYI are able to land a first rd pick, prospect and roster player IMO they finish no worse after the moulson trade. Well worth the gamble of getting vanek for possible playoff birth and re signing

For example if LA offered Frattin or King, Vey and 1st rd pick the deal works out pretty good for NYI. They gave away a likely 2015 1st rd pick and 2nd rd pick with moulson but would get back three pieces too
We will have to see the return moulson brings as well to judge the deal
- northernKing

I would honestly be happy with a First rounder, or a solid prospect. one or the other.. if somehow Garth gets more.. then awesome.

I do however think that Moulson ends up in LA not Vanek.

XxNYIxX

I agree. Dont pay a the high price for a guy who wants to hit the free agent market. The issue with getting him cheap as a rental is there are tons of others teams who would also want him. So that alone will make a bidding war. And that is what the Kings should stay out of for a rental. If the Kings were top of the division and riding high without scoring a bunch. Then maybe you pay a little higher a price for a rental like Vanek. Hes one of my favorite players and would to see him with Kopi. I said that exact thing about Carter then bam. He was LA bound.


Id so much rather go after Cammy than Moulson. Cammy brings speed and clutch scoring. Moulson will be like molasses under Sutter. Cammy can play under Sutter.

I agree. Dont pay a the high price for a guy who wants to hit the free agent market. The issue with getting him cheap as a rental is there are tons of others teams who would also want him. So that alone will make a bidding war. And that is what the Kings should stay out of for a rental. If the Kings were top of the division and riding high without scoring a bunch. Then maybe you pay a little higher a price for a rental like Vanek. Hes one of my favorite players and would to see him with Kopi. I said that exact thing about Carter then bam. He was LA bound.


Id so much rather go after Cammy than Moulson. Cammy brings speed and clutch scoring. Moulson will be like molasses under Sutter. Cammy can play under Sutter.
- poisondhearts37

Cammy will cost more than Moulson
You guys want impact but don't want to give up much. Moulson would easily be the cheapest option but he's no where near the impact Cammy or Vanek would give, and Sabers GM already said he wants a 1st + for Moulson

Cammy will cost more than Moulson
You guys want impact but don't want to give up much. Moulson would easily be the cheapest option but he's no where near the impact Cammy or Vanek would give, and Sabers GM already said he wants a 1st + for Moulson
- Danformo

We dont want to give up much for a guy who said he wants to see the free agent market. Bringing in Cammy or Moulson we could talk to guys who didnt openly say they want to see the Market.

Im also betting that the Kings are kicking tires on Grabner. He would be a nice add to the team. Much needed speed. For me. If we cant negotiate for a extended Vanek. Im going for Cammy or Grabner.

Looks like LA and Habs are cooking up a deal.... A big one that is...Markov, Plekanec & a 3rd rounder 2014 going there for Brown, Tuffoli, Muzzin and a first rounder 2014....I really hope this trade DOES NOT go through. They do not have much cap space for a trade right now.

Looks like LA and Habs are cooking up a deal.... A big one that is...Markov, Plekanec & a 3rd rounder 2014 going there for Brown, Tuffoli, Muzzin and a first rounder 2014....I really hope this trade DOES NOT go through. They do not have much cap space for a trade right now.
- Smrzzy

lol..awful move for LA.

I see cammaleri being bad fit .....Vanek is more likely...........neither will happen. I would like to see Frazer and Regher gone. How long do we have to keep Frazier in when he has zero offensive skills and makes mistakes as much as Regher. During this slump I have been watching to see who is making the bad turn overs that are creating scoring chances for the opponent. Both those guys are shiningin the ssuck age dept. Frat ten is losing stock every game. He doesnt fit in the Kings system. He could be traded with a pick or prospect for a good defenseman or a left wing with upside otherwise wait till the off season to reboot. Kings will put it together before long but Dean will not sell the future for a shot this year.

lol..awful move for LA.
- poisondhearts37

Lol...will never happen

ohhhh shiaaatt, time to party it up with carter and richards, lets go boys!

Since Vanek has already publicly stated that he is going to test free agency on July 1st, no one is going to give up "a top prospect, a proven top-six forward, and a draft pick" for him. I'd consider doing something along the lines of Linden Vey (NHL ready 2nd-tier prospect), Alec Martinez (journeyman 2nd/3rd pairing puck-moving defenseman), and a 3rd round pick (the one we got for Scrivens), but nothing more than that. Those are all replaceable pieces for LA, and players that could make an immediate impact in Long Island. I think the Islanders are being overly optimistic if they think that anyone would give more than that.

I would hate for Matt Moulson to come to the Kings. He started out here, was given numerous chances to thrive (he started on the first line in 2007-08) and never really panned out. Players like Brian Boyle, Teddy Purcell, and Dustin Penner are all thriving on other teams, but didn't do much when they were in LA. As Dean Lombardi would say, they're "not a good fit." If he can be had as a free agent in the $3MM range, then maybe it's worth a shot, but I wouldn't give up anything of value for a previously failed experiment.

Since Vanek has already publicly stated that he is going to test free agency on July 1st, no one is going to give up "a top prospect, a proven top-six forward, and a draft pick" for him. I'd consider doing something along the lines of Linden Vey (NHL ready 2nd-tier prospect), Alec Martinez (journeyman 2nd/3rd pairing puck-moving defenseman), and a 3rd round pick (the one we got for Scrivens), but nothing more than that. Those are all replaceable pieces for LA, and players that could make an immediate impact in Long Island. I think the Islanders are being overly optimistic if they think that anyone would give more than that.

I would hate for Matt Moulson to come to the Kings. He started out here, was given numerous chances to thrive (he started on the first line in 2007-08) and never really panned out. Players like Brian Boyle, Teddy Purcell, and Dustin Penner are all thriving on other teams, but didn't do much when they were in LA. As Dean Lombardi would say, they're "not a good fit." If he can be had as a free agent in the $3MM range, then maybe it's worth a shot, but I wouldn't give up anything of value for a previously failed experiment.
- tkecanuck341

yeah no

yeah no
- Mapleleafs_91

Then we can just wait for July 1st when he can be had for nothing.

Then we can just wait for July 1st when he can be had for nothing.
- tkecanuck341

Fact, but that does nothing this season in a quest for another cup.

XxNYIxX

Looks like LA and Habs are cooking up a deal.... A big one that is...Markov, Plekanec & a 3rd rounder 2014 going there for Brown, Tuffoli, Muzzin and a first rounder 2014....I really hope this trade DOES NOT go through. They do not have much cap space for a trade right now.
- Smrzzy

I don't think you would get Plekanec.

But there are alot of reports here in Montreal that LA is aggressively purchasing Markov.

And we know that Bergevin loves Clifford. Other than that, i think it would cost you a forward prospect to go with Clifford.

I don't think you would get Plekanec.

But there are alot of reports here in Montreal that LA is aggressively purchasing Markov.

And we know that Bergevin loves Clifford. Other than that, i think it would cost you a forward prospect to go with Clifford.
- soad_live

Considering Markov's age, cap hit and pending UFA status, to me this would only make sense if LA was looking to include or subsequently move Mitchell or Regehr. I don't see the logic in adding more D in expectation of later moving Muzzin or Martinez while losing Clifford and still having to shed more salary, but who knows.

I agree that the asking price is too steep for LA, but I do feel he'll likely stick with a contender that trades for him. The team that trades for his services will have a contract offer in place that will be mutually beneficial for poth parties.

Edit...

I think our neighbor to the south trades for him, actually. They have the cap space, the pieces, and a roster spot for him.

Considering Markov's age, cap hit and pending UFA status, to me this would only make sense if LA was looking to include or subsequently move Mitchell or Regehr. I don't see the logic in adding more D in expectation of later moving Muzzin or Martinez while losing Clifford and still having to shed more salary, but who knows.
- cryptical77

Yep but i can see Moen also moving.

So a Markov + Moen + pick for Clifford, Greene and prospect A might make sense.

Looks like LA and Habs are cooking up a deal.... A big one that is...Markov, Plekanec & a 3rd rounder 2014 going there for Brown, Tuffoli, Muzzin and a first rounder 2014....I really hope this trade DOES NOT go through. They do not have much cap space for a trade right now.
- Smrzzy

How is this a good deal AT ALL for LA? Why would they even consider it??

A 35 year old UFA defenseman, a 31 year old CENTER (Which we have too many of) and a 3rd...

for a top 6 wing in Brown (29), a top future 4 defenseman in Muzzin (24), another top 6 wing in Toffoli (21), AND a first round pick.

I don't know who your sources are but they are clearly Canadiens fans because this is an awful deal.