MnGump
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Location: Columbus, MN Joined: 06.21.2012
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explain... - LetsGoIsles
Whats to explain? Snow gave up a first and a second round pick to acquire a player that was never going to re-sign with NY. Not to mention a pretty good player in Moulson who reportedly WANTED to stay in NY.
At the very least he could have saved his own picks and just dealt Moulson at the deadline for probably as much or more than he'll get for Vanek at this point...
Not sure how you can look at that trade as anything but stupid. |
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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders |
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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Im not hatin as i was part of the minority that thought maybe it wasnt so bad.
A playoff appearance is huge for franchises like nyi. And winning a round!!
And maybe u coulda resigned him. He's a proven elite goal scorer.
But if ur forced into movin him, it'll most likely be for less than u gave. All within a few months of each other... Disaster trade - hugefemale dog77
this is why it isnt a disaster...
moulson sucks and will not get the same return that vanek will. having said that, the isles knew moulson wasnt going to resign for the amount they would pay OR they just didnt want to resign him.
so they traded away him and 1st and 2nd...1st round pick will hopefully be this years pick in one of the worst draft classes.
they traded for vanek who is a top 20 player in the league; everyone knows the isles have a hard time signing big time names but they DO have experience winning players over so garth took the risk and tried winning him over..so far, it doesnt look pretty. (lets not forget, although its a long shot, vanek can STILL resign come july 1)
being that vanek is a better player than moulson, id say that all garth has to do is get back the equivalent of a 1st round pick and he is back to where he was before the trade...all said and told, it was a risk that didnt work out, disaster??? thats a bit much. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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What letter grade would you give Edmonton's rebuild, hockey fans?
I'm going with a D. Multiple coaches, too much focus at the wing position as opposed to D and G, and poor management of prior assets like Hemsky and Gagner. Very poorly done. - Johnny Wrath
D- |
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- eichiefs9
Nope. It wouldn't work. There's a 5 player per side maximum |
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Seriously? what would the Kings give up for a big name... - Bo
Maybe one of their big name players? Mind boggling isn't it? |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Left coaster the islanders are in a bad way these days but refresh my memory what year I'd the Canucks win the cup - Finnegan
Let him hate.
The nucks window is closing fast
I understand how rejection from star players feels bro.
Im here for u.
Trade vanek now before the sob walks
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MnGump
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Columbus, MN Joined: 06.21.2012
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this is why it isnt a disaster...
moulson sucks and will not get the same return that vanek will. having said that, the isles knew moulson wasnt going to resign for the amount they would pay OR they just didnt want to resign him.
so they traded away him and 1st and 2nd...1st round pick will hopefully be this years pick in one of the worst draft classes.
they traded for vanek who is a top 20 player in the league; everyone knows the isles have a hard time signing big time names but they DO have experience winning players over so garth took the risk and tried winning him over..so far, it doesnt look pretty. (lets not forget, although its a long shot, vanek can STILL resign come july 1)
being that vanek is a better player than moulson, id say that all garth has to do is get back the equivalent of a 1st round pick and he is back to where he was before the trade...all said and told, it was a risk that didnt work out, disaster??? thats a bit much. - LetsGoIsles
Dude you need to remove your homer goggles... |
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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders |
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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I don't think the obvious is worth explaining. - 1979AD
hahah so says the guy who wasnt sure if Garth Snow was responsible for drafting DiPietro or not... |
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Bo
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 02.09.2009
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Maybe one of their big name players? Mind boggling isn't it? - FinAddict
Gagner for Willy Mitchel |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Left coaster the islanders are in a bad way these days but refresh my memory what year I'd the Canucks win the cup - Finnegan
people that use this are the biggest scrooges of all...
were you even f'n alive the last time the Islanders did? what was it.. 1970? |
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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders |
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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Dude you need to remove your homer goggles... - MnGump
what wasnt true or me being a homer?? |
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since93
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 11.23.2013
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This is Hockeybuzz, I recommend you question the validity of every blog. - FinAddict
except anything written by yost no doubt |
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jimmc7722
New York Islanders |
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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Whats to explain? Snow gave up a first and a second round pick to acquire a player that was never going to re-sign with NY. Not to mention a pretty good player in Moulson who reportedly WANTED to stay in NY.
At the very least he could have saved his own picks and just dealt Moulson at the deadline for probably as much or more than he'll get for Vanek at this point...
Not sure how you can look at that trade as anything but stupid. - MnGump
You can say that now that we know he is leaving... but if would have stayed, it was worth the risk. |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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this is why it isnt a disaster...
moulson sucks and will not get the same return that vanek will. having said that, the isles knew moulson wasnt going to resign for the amount they would pay OR they just didnt want to resign him.
so they traded away him and 1st and 2nd...1st round pick will hopefully be this years pick in one of the worst draft classes.
they traded for vanek who is a top 20 player in the league; everyone knows the isles have a hard time signing big time names but they DO have experience winning players over so garth took the risk and tried winning him over..so far, it doesnt look pretty. (lets not forget, although its a long shot, vanek can STILL resign come july 1)
being that vanek is a better player than moulson, id say that all garth has to do is get back the equivalent of a 1st round pick and he is back to where he was before the trade...all said and told, it was a risk that didnt work out, disaster??? thats a bit much. - LetsGoIsles
All the while.... Islanders will still pick top 5 this year and next most likely..
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except anything written by yost no doubt - since93
Bring a graphing calculator for those ones |
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XxNYIxX
New York Islanders |
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Location: Clayton, NC Joined: 02.26.2007
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Dude you need to remove your homer goggles... - MnGump
what did he say that was Hommerish?
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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You can say that now that we know he is leaving... but if would have stayed, it was worth the risk. - jimmc7722
I would agree with this... Us in Buffalo were sick of him not skating hard... taking long periods of games off.. and taking games off only to have a 4 point night to equal out his stats for the week..
I don't know what team is goign to give up a 1st and more for Vanek knowing full well that he wants to be a UFA... NYI is kind of hog-tied. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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What letter grade would you give Edmonton's rebuild, hockey fans?
I'm going with a D. Multiple coaches, too much focus at the wing position as opposed to D and G, and poor management of prior assets like Hemsky and Gagner. Very poorly done. - Johnny Wrath
Thus far i think thats reasonably fair. At least considering klowe/tambs.
But at that point it was only year 2 and 3 of the rebuild. Tough to call it a failure at that point!!
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Hall was the right choice.(winger)
Nuge is a center
And yaks still might be the right choice --murray wouldnt be changing the fortunes of this team right now
Mact hasnt been in charge for even a year yet. And acquired two solid pieces in gordon and perron.
Ima give him some time before i make any judgements |
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MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: CA Joined: 02.28.2011
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To EDM: Doughty + King
To LA: Hall + Petry + 2014 1st - bluenatic411
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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders |
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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Whats to explain? Snow gave up a first and a second round pick to acquire a player that was never going to re-sign with NY. Not to mention a pretty good player in Moulson who reportedly WANTED to stay in NY.
At the very least he could have saved his own picks and just dealt Moulson at the deadline for probably as much or more than he'll get for Vanek at this point...
Not sure how you can look at that trade as anything but stupid. - MnGump
moulson wanted to stay...fact!!! moulson will ask for about 6 million...mark it down now, the team that pays him the 5 year 30 million deal will be pissed about the money wasted.
moulson wanted to stay; isles didnt want him...
as for the picks, they are picks in a poopty draft, they can be reclaimed once vanek is dealt and the isles who already have tons of prospects dont "need" picks right now, they need veteran experience and top talent...again, it was a risk.
as to your last comment, moulson will not get more than vanek at this point... |
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jimmc7722
New York Islanders |
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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All the while.... Islanders will still pick top 5 this year and next most likely.. - JVince11
Hopefully this year.
Top 5... plus another for Vanek.
Who knows what will happen next year. |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Finnegan
New York Islanders |
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Location: NH Joined: 12.13.2012
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If the Islanders don't get someone of value back for Vanek it will be a terrible trade.Snow took a chance it may not work out but worth the risk. Edm has had like 4 number one picks and they are worse then the Islanders. I for one and sick of them only getting draft picks in trades |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Hopefully this year.
Top 5... plus another for Vanek.
Who knows what will happen next year. - jimmc7722
I don't see how picking top 5 "in one of the worst drafts" is all of a sudden going to get NYI out of the top 5 next year... there really aren't any huge name UFAs that can turn around NYI... stastny? gaborik? iginla? all not likely going to a bottom 10 team. |
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