I think in the long run that B Schenn can be successful at center or wing. However, they need to pick one and let him stay there. I think Berube gets that and hes determined to keep him at center for the foreseeable future.
- BiggE

I said that before the season started. I didn't like the decision to start him at wing, but I said no matter what they should keep him there and let him get acclimated. Obviously, he's outplayed Vinny at center, so things have changed.

That would be the part where the defenseman is not the only one involved in clearing the zone on any play or shift in a game. Unless you believe that Grossmann is the only reason why the Flyers struggle getting out of their zone. On any zone clear the defenseman can make the play, move the puck correctly and efficiently to the forwards, and the forward can turn the puck over and make an errant pass. So it then becomes a failed clear as the puck didn't reach the red line. So the defenseman gets penalized for the failed clear. The article and the data doesn't take any of that into account. The author just draws poor conclusions to back up his agenda. Lot's of holes there.
- MJL

You are basically claiming that over 55 games Grossmann has consistently got less help from the forwards at clearing the zone than other defensemen, and this explains why he ranks last among Flyers defensemen with a successful defensive zone exit percentage of 66.8 percent, and only 31.1 percent of Grossmann's zone exit attempts leave the defensive end successfully and also see the Flyers retain possession of the puck past the blue line. But you do not have any evidence, or even a plausible theory to back that claim up. Explaining that forwards can be involved in failed clearing attempts is not an argument.

I never said Grossmann was the only reason the Flyers struggle to get the puck out of their zone. I said he was the worst defensman in the top 7 at successfully clearing the zone. And he is. Because he's not good at passing the puck.

He reminds me so much of Briere it's creepy.

The guy looks like him out there on the ice, small, not great defensively, right handed, great hands, scoring touch.

Difference is Briere was C, while he's a Winger.
- Yosimar89

Akeson doesn't have much speed. Briere had above average speed when he was younger. He could really move.

Akeson doesn't have much speed. Briere had above average speed when he was younger. He could really move.
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't see Akeson's AHL play translating into the NHL.

I hope I'm wrong, but his skillset is too mediocre for the NHL. He has good hands and vision and a shot, but you need to have the speed, size, and agility to get into a position to use those hands, vision, and shot. Plus, he is pretty subpar away from the puck.

I don't think he makes it up with the big boys. I do remember him having good chemistry with G though. He has that going for him

You are basically claiming that over 55 games Grossmann has consistently got less help from the forwards at clearing the zone than other defensemen, and this explains why he ranks last among Flyers defensemen with a successful defensive zone exit percentage of 66.8 percent, and only 31.1 percent of Grossmann's zone exit attempts leave the defensive end successfully and also see the Flyers retain possession of the puck past the blue line. But you do not have any evidence, or even a plausible theory to back that claim up. Explaining that forwards can be involved in failed clearing attempts is not an argument.

I never said Grossmann was the only reason the Flyers struggle to get the puck out of their zone. I said he was the worst defensman in the top 7 at successfully clearing the zone. And he is. Because he's not good at passing the puck.
- Feanor

We all know Grossmann is the worst puck moved among Flyers defenseman. The numbers are a bit skewed because of his horrific January. I'd like to see last year's numbers to determine whether he's just having a bad year in that department or if its been a chronic problem throughout his career.

The statistic, also, only measures the rate of success when LEAVING the zone. It does not take into account zone assignments while the other team has possession or how often the Flyers gain possession without allowing a scoring chance.

Ill see your Wideman and raise you a Carle
- KINGKENZO

Carle's actually played really well for the Lightning after an up and down first season.

But yeah.

I don't see Akeson's AHL play translating into the NHL.

I hope I'm wrong, but his skillset is too mediocre for the NHL. He has good hands and vision and a shot, but you need to have the speed, size, and agility to get into a position to use those hands, vision, and shot. Plus, he is pretty subpar away from the puck.

I don't think he makes it up with the big boys. I do remember him having good chemistry with G though. He has that going for him
- Giroux_Is_God

I think he would be an upgrade on Downie on the third line at the moment. He really seems to have lost his game since his injury around Christmas.

I don't see Akeson's AHL play translating into the NHL.

I hope I'm wrong, but his skillset is too mediocre for the NHL. He has good hands and vision and a shot, but you need to have the speed, size, and agility to get into a position to use those hands, vision, and shot. Plus, he is pretty subpar away from the puck.

I don't think he makes it up with the big boys. I do remember him having good chemistry with G though. He has that going for him
- Giroux_Is_God

I could see him putting up points on a bad NHL team. He just has too limitations. Lack of speed, lack of size, not very good defensively.

Carle's actually played really well for the Lightning after an up and down first season.

But yeah.
- Jsaquella

4th in +/- among East defenseman.

4th in +/- among East defenseman.
- PhillySportsGuy

and the guy who is number one is about to have a similar cashout.

and the guy who is number one is about to have a similar cashout.
- stayinthefnnet

He's #1 by a lot. Carle and Phaneuf both being high is very impressive though. They both face tough opponents and aren't exactly playing for juggernauts. The top 12 is Carle, Phaneuf and the Pens and Bruins.

We all know Grossmann is the worst puck moved among Flyers defenseman. The numbers are a bit skewed because of his horrific January. I'd like to see last year's numbers to determine whether he's just having a bad year in that department or if its been a chronic problem throughout his career.

The statistic, also, only measures the rate of success when LEAVING the zone. It does not take into account zone assignments while the other team has possession or how often the Flyers gain possession without allowing a scoring chance.
- PhillySportsGuy

The numbers are skewed by January, but overall they're not good even if you throw out January or go on a month by month basis.

As I mentioned earlier, the stats on Grossmann are awful. But stats are generally not kind to guys of Grossmann's skills or role, because they measure possession.

The problem is, Grossmann's had puck issues all year in addition to the coverage mistakes that are somewhat atypical this season. And that stuff is eyeball test. The blind pass up the middle into the 4 Lightning players that led to a goal against. The blown coverages in the Rangers game recently. The unnecessary icing in the game in Carolina when the Flyers led 1-0 with under a minute left that led to the tying goal.

I'd love Grossmann to be playing better than he has been. I'd love for him to shut me up, because unlike some stats people, I'd rather see the team win than be right.

But using all the stats, not just Corsi, Fenwick and WOWY, but zone starts, zone clear %, QOC and various others, he's not putting up good numbers and quite honestly, if you aren't into stats, he's not doing the job on the eyeball test. His puck play has never been a strong point, but usually he was solid in coverage. But this year, he's had issues there, too.

4th in +/- among East defenseman.
- PhillySportsGuy

His numbers are very good across the board, too.

He's #1 by a lot. Carle and Phaneuf both being high is very impressive though. They both face tough opponents and aren't exactly playing for juggernauts. The top 12 is Carle, Phaneuf and the Pens and Bruins.
- PhillySportsGuy

would you take carle or niskanen? and secondly, would you be willing to give either 5ish over 5 years?

would you take carle or niskanen? and secondly, would you be willing to give either 5ish over 5 years?
- stayinthefnnet

I think carle is making more than that already

I think carle is making more than that already
- monty burns

i thought carle was 5.25?

NFL.

Sport of slow motion replays and where the breaks in play are longer than the game itself.

wow peyton manning is getting clowned

And when they can realistically trade for or sign one of those, I am in 1000% agreement.
- Jsaquella

Then I'd rather fill needs in FA, then trade any of our young players for a band aid

wow peyton manning is getting clowned
- 2Real

Never would have guessed the game would start this way

NFL.

Sport of slow motion replays and where the breaks in play are longer than the game itself.
- flyer_nutter

The rate of commercials really is absurd. Squeezing every last penny out

Never would have guessed the game would start this way
- funmaster18

What happened?

I just turned it on....thought it started at 8. Shows how much I care

what's the biggest blowout in the superbowl

Never would have guessed the game would start this way
- funmaster18

seattle has great defense but wow to shut down peyton like this is insane

what's the biggest blowout in the superbowl
- 2Real

That's a shame. I wanted Peyton to get one.