I agree. Kinda like that guy who went around telling everyone that Pageau is either = or > Giroux. Remember him!?
- systemtool

Spats is ok ,he is a leaf fan ,that didnt like how BB rebuilt the leafs .I cant say i blame him tbh .The leafs should be were colorado is now with all the high draft picks .But they arent ,they are an expensive bubble team, that unless they have some real gems in their prospect pool .Will be forced to either trade away higher priced tallent for youth ,or remain somewhat static

Spats is ok ,he is a leaf fan ,that didnt like how BB rebuilt the leafs .I cant say i blame him tbh .The leafs should be were colorado is now with all the high draft picks .But they arent ,they are an expensive bubble team, that unless they have some real gems in their prospect pool .Will be forced to either trade away higher priced tallent for youth ,or remain somewhat static

- top shelf 15

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- walshyleafsfan

Their scouting staff has sucked,since the cap came into play,even under BB it has badly underpreformed.They havent mined the good 2nd and 3rd round players ,and its killed them .Instead of drafting and developing useful players say bottom 6 guys and some decent bottom to mid pairing defenders they have used FA to try and plug those holes.At a much higher cost.

As the saying goes you need to draft well to trade well ,and the leafs havent drafted well outside the 1st round ,iam not trying to bash at all but if iam the leaf brass i start handing out pinkslips

Their scouting staff has sucked,since the cap came into play,even under BB it has badly underpreformed.They havent mined the good 2nd and 3rd round players ,and its killed them .Instead of drafting and developing useful players say bottom 6 guys and some decent bottom to mid pairing defenders they have used FA to try and plug those holes.At a much higher cost.

As the saying goes you need to draft well to trade well ,and the leafs havent drafted well outside the 1st round ,iam not trying to bash at all but if iam the leaf brass i start handing out pinkslips
- top shelf 15

Well you started off claiming with all our high draft picks we should be as good as the Avs. In the past 5 years the Avs notable picks have been 1st, 2nd, 3rd. The Leafs have been 5th, 5th, 7th. I think it's highly unfair to compare the two.
Secondly later round picks in the past 5 years we have drafted Reimer, Kulemin, Gunnarson, Komorov, Stalberg, Stralman, Holzer, Frattin, Broll, Leivo, Blacker and D'Amigo. They have all played NHL games.

They also have high hopes for Granberg, McKegg, Nilsson, Finn, Brown, Herzog and Johnson.
So I'm not really sure on the validity of anything you have said.

Well you started off claiming with all our high draft picks we should be as good as the Avs. In the past 5 years the Avs notable picks have been 1st, 2nd, 3rd. The Leafs have been 5th, 5th, 7th. I think it's highly unfair to compare the two.
Secondly later round picks in the past 5 years we have drafted Reimer, Kulemin, Gunnarson, Komorov, Stalberg, Stralman, Holzer, Frattin, Broll, Leivo, Blacker and D'Amigo. They have all played NHL games.

They also have high hopes for Granberg, McKegg, Nilsson, Finn, Brown, Herzog and Johnson.
So I'm not really sure on the validity of anything you have said.
- walshyleafsfan

No offense but thats not that as impressive as it should be .Maybe the Colorado thing is a bit unfair ,But you guys cant be happy with just that.The leafs should have one of the deepest prospect pool in the league,even with the Kessel deal.If they had the scouts that can find the nuggets in the later rounds.But they dont ,so whom is to blame for this ??They spend the money on scouts but only recieve so/so results .I expect them to take a closer look at their scouting staff sooner rather than later.

No offense but thats not that as impressive as it should be .Maybe the Colorado thing is a bit unfair ,But you guys cant be happy with just that.The leafs should have one of the deepest prospect pool in the league,even with the Kessel deal.If they had the scouts that can find the nuggets in the later rounds.But they dont ,so whom is to blame for this ??They spend the money on scouts but only recieve so/so results .I expect them to take a closer look at their scouting staff sooner rather than later.

- top shelf 15

You mentioned bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing dmen. And there are lots there in that group.
the organisation believes they have some decent prospects finally.kadri was a decent prospect, schenn netted us jvr and reilly looks like he will be a gem. Percy looks fairly good as well.later draft picks are a lottery and the ones we have drafted have gone on to play in the nhl. Fairly good success rate.

You mentioned bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing dmen. And there are lots there in that group.
the organisation believes they have some decent prospects finally.kadri was a decent prospect, scheme netted us jar and reilly looks like he will be a gem. Percy looks fairly good as well.later draft picks are a lottery and the ones we have drafted have gone on to play in the nhl. Fairly good success rate.
- walshyleafsfan

I expected more ,thats all .The leafs spend the money ,they should have nhl ready guys just knocking at the door .Their pipeline should be top 10 ,but its not ,so that why iam questioning their scouts .Iam not trolling ,but there is no way the leaf fans should be happy with those results at all

I expected more ,thats all .The leafs spend the money ,they should have nhl ready guys just knocking at the door .Their pipeline should be top 10 ,but its not ,so that why iam questioning their scouts .Iam not trolling ,but there is no way the leaf fans should be happy with those results at all

- top shelf 15

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Which gems have the sens drafted in late rounds lately?

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Which gems have the sens drafted in late rounds lately?
- LeafsFan64

Mark Stone
Fred Claessen
Mark Boroeicki
zach smith
JG Pageau
Micheal Wikstrand

Glad you asked, I haven't posted here in a while but I couldn't resist this one

Mark Stone
Fred Claessen
Mark Boroeicki
zach smith
JG Pageau
Micheal Wikstrand

Glad you asked, I haven't posted here in a while but I couldn't resist this one
- tuna99

Silvferberg ,Lehner in the second round also

Mark Stone
Fred Claessen
Mark Boroeicki
zach smith
JG Pageau
Micheal Wikstrand

Glad you asked, I haven't posted here in a while but I couldn't resist this one
- tuna99

How is that much better then
Matt Finn
Kulimen
Gunnarson
Blacker(used to trade for Holland, as guy above said have to draft good to trade good)
Leivo looks good.
Brown
Carter Verhaeghe
Frattin
Reimer.
Leafs have drafted a few good guys in rounds after the first aswell.

How is that much better then
Matt Finn
Kulimen
Gunnarson
Blacker(used to trade for Holland, as guy above said have to draft good to trade good)
Leivo looks good.
Brown
Carter Verhaeghe
Frattin
Reimer.
Leafs have drafted a few good guys in rounds after the first aswell.
- LeafsFan64

That's what I don't understand. But apparently the Leafs should be the only team in the NHL who regularly finds superstars in the later rounds??? And, as fans we shouldn't settle for less (is what I think he was saying?)

How is that much better then
Matt Finn
Kulimen
Gunnarson
Blacker(used to trade for Holland, as guy above said have to draft good to trade good)
Leivo looks good.
Brown
Carter Verhaeghe
Frattin
Reimer.
Leafs have drafted a few good guys in rounds after the first aswell.
- LeafsFan64

I think you'll have to find the answer within yourself, you asked the question and we replied. If you have more questions about why Ottawa is a better team then Toronto I would say because we have better player development and always have.

I think you'll have to find the answer within yourself, you asked the question and we replied. If you have more questions about why Ottawa is a better team then Toronto I would say because we have better player development and always have.
- tuna99

then I look at standings, smile. Then go on with my day

I think you'll have to find the answer within yourself, you asked the question and we replied. If you have more questions about why Ottawa is a better team then Toronto I would say because we have better player development and always have.
- tuna99

come on dude.....

if anything, ottawa and tor are equal teams. it's ridiculous to say you're clearly better than a team who is six points ahead of you in the standings. both teams have their strengths and weaknesses, and at the end of the day, i'd say they're pretty darn even.

That's what I don't understand. But apparently the Leafs should be the only team in the NHL who regularly finds superstars in the later rounds??? And, as fans we shouldn't settle for less (is what I think he was saying?)
- walshyleafsfan

You shouldnt ,the money your fanbase gives to support the team deserves the very best .Iam not trolling most know me here ,as a just a guy talking hockey.And its just my opinion ,but the leafs should be a player factory ,that produces the very best tallent,kinda like detroit .But they dont which doesnt seem right you know

Spats is ok ,he is a leaf fan ,that didnt like how BB rebuilt the leafs .I cant say i blame him tbh .The leafs should be were colorado is now with all the high draft picks .But they arent ,they are an expensive bubble team, that unless they have some real gems in their prospect pool .Will be forced to either trade away higher priced tallent for youth ,or remain somewhat static

- top shelf 15

My a$$ he's a Leaf fan. He poses as one to try to chirp. He went on for ages about how he "could not forgive BB for trading picks for Kessel" and now that Murray has done the same thing for a lesser player who is near certainly leaving after next year, he avoids those threads like the plague. He's a passive agressive troll and a chump that won't show his face in Leaf threads with the Sens a mess and the Leafs doing well.

I think you'll have to find the answer within yourself, you asked the question and we replied. If you have more questions about why Ottawa is a better team then Toronto I would say because we have better player development and always have.
- tuna99

A) they're not a better team. At all.

B) That Leaf group is easily better.

come on dude.....

if anything, ottawa and tor are equal teams. it's ridiculous to say you're clearly better than a team who is six points ahead of you in the standings. both teams have their strengths and weaknesses, and at the end of the day, i'd say they're pretty darn even.
- sensarmy_11

equal is wishful thinking on behalf of Sens fans. The Leafs are ahead in the standings for the second year in a row, have a budget to spend, have their core locked up, and a first round pick this year to boot.