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Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
It has been impressive in years past, and recently if it had been that impressive, he would be in the top 6 and we woudn't need to discuss keeping him in the press box as a potential injury replacement.
- 1979AD


ancient times
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
they've been caged now
- Dozzer



1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
without cap penalties my friend. why are you so angry with life?
- therealagent







1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
ancient times
- Mapleleafs_91


You should have read past the first half sentence.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
Bring Kovalchuk out of retirement?

In all seriousness, Hall is great, and RNH is untradeable. Leafs would kill for a centre prospect like RNH.
Ebs is a great top 6, but not a franchise, and will ride the growth of Hall and RNH. Yaks is too onesided, reminds me of Semin.

- ILoveLamp


yakupov is not mogilny like. alex scored 76 goals as a rookie.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
Who's to say another center wouldn't come back in the trade? Draft centers. Sign free agents. It's not rocket science. Keep in mind I never said the Oilers should trade him. I just said I'd rather keep Eberle over RNH. There has been talk in the media lately about the Oilers trading Eberle. I think it would be a bad idea to move him. He's the kind of clutch player the Oilers will need when they finally do make it back to the playoffs.
- TML60

There is little/no chance they get back a center of his calibre in a trade. In free agency is beyond laughable. Ebs is more trade bait because they have more players like him. They have absolutely no one else of RNH's level down the middle. Unless the return was off the charts they lose any trade for him big time.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 31 @ 12:23 PM ET
Voice of reason. We have more invested in Clarkson than Kulemin and in the long run his offensive production is actually behind Clarksons in recent years. Might as well give Clarkson the chance to slump break and get some quality minutes.
- systemtool

I can't possibly foresee a scenario whereby Kulemin is a Leaf next year.

He's going to want over $3 million a year.

He doesn't provide that much value, and we need to open up some roster space for younger guys.

Clarkson is here until the end of time. We need to start giving the guy more minutes, in the hope that he can get the motor running better.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:23 PM ET
[quote=1979AD]
Tony, hello? You still there or are you taking grounders and practicing your double plays?
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:23 PM ET
There is little/no chance they get back a center of his calibre in a trade. In free agency is beyond laughable. Ebs is more trade bait because they have more players like him. They have absolutely no one else of RNH's level down the middle. Unless the return was off the charts they lose any trade for him big time.
- sanfordnson



RNH/Shultz

Couture/Burns

..Would you do that?
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:24 PM ET
Funny... Us Leafs fans dont watch the Oilers much so we all still assume Eberle > RNH (including myself)

Curious to know why they like RNH better... Or maybe that speaks to how average Eberle has been?

- ejeezy

I don't really assume one is better than the other. I just like the fact that Eberle finds a way to score in clutch situations. And if the Nuge is considered better then i assume the Oilers would get a better return for him than for Eberle.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 31 @ 12:24 PM ET
Voice of reason. We have more invested in Clarkson than Kulemin and in the long run his offensive production is actually behind Clarksons in recent years. Might as well give Clarkson the chance to slump break and get some quality minutes.
- systemtool



Kulemin .51pts/game, .21g/game since 10/11

Clarkson .41pts/game .24g/game since 10/11

Is it??
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:24 PM ET
Do the math over the last 3 seasons. I would love to see the results.
- systemtool

Sure thang

36 3 5 8

44 8 8 16



48 15 9 24

48 7 16 23



80 30 16 46

70 7 21 28



82 12 6 18

82 30 27 57


Totals : 246 60 36 96

vs

244 52 72 124


Now one has crazy eyes, the other is on the top PK unit for three straight years.

Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:24 PM ET
RNH/Shultz

Couture/Burns

..Would you do that?

- iTOLDu


SJ gets ripped off
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:24 PM ET
I can't possibly foresee a scenario whereby Kulemin is a Leaf next year.

He's going to want over $3 million a year.

He doesn't provide that much value, and we need to open up some roster space for younger guys.

Clarkson is here until the end of time. We need to start giving the guy more minutes, in the hope that he can get the motor running better.

- Atomic Wedgie



I don't even know if Kulemin knows what he makes now. He has that Eli Manning expression on his face non-stop. Only reason he is going to get that is bc of his agent.
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
yakupov is not mogilny like. alex scored 76 goals as a rookie.
- therealagent


agreed. Yaks looks like Semin at most right now. Hints of being a sniper, lazy on the defensive side of the puck, and very very VERY streaky.

therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
RNH/Shultz

Couture/Burns

..Would you do that?

- iTOLDu


you're on glue right? sharks wouldn't trade burns for RNH let alone Coutoure
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
yakupov is not mogilny like. alex scored 76 goals as a rookie.
- therealagent

Would Mogilny still do that today? Highly doubt it.
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
SJ gets ripped off
- Mapleleafs_91



Yes they do but shh I was waiting for the response.
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
you're on glue right? sharks wouldn't trade burns for RNH let alone Coutoure
- therealagent



None of you like to have any fun. Deal is off the table.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
There is little/no chance they get back a center of his calibre in a trade. In free agency is beyond laughable. Ebs is more trade bait because they have more players like him. They have absolutely no one else of RNH's level down the middle. Unless the return was off the charts they lose any trade for him big time.
- sanfordnson

Couldn't they just draft another centre with the #1 pick this year?

And next year?

And the year after that?
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:26 PM ET
Voice of reason. We have more invested in Clarkson than Kulemin and in the long run his offensive production is actually behind Clarksons in recent years. Might as well give Clarkson the chance to slump break and get some quality minutes.
- systemtool



a line of Raymond, Holland and Clarkson could produce quite a bit of offense giving the Leafs 3 attacking lines.
I'm not counting on Bolland being back to speed before march he may need a few fourth line games to start out.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:26 PM ET
you're on glue right? sharks wouldn't trade burns for RNH let alone Coutoure
- therealagent

Jokes are funny but cmon...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
I can't possibly foresee a scenario whereby Kulemin is a Leaf next year.

He's going to want over $3 million a year.

He doesn't provide that much value, and we need to open up some roster space for younger guys.

Clarkson is here until the end of time. We need to start giving the guy more minutes, in the hope that he can get the motor running better.

- Atomic Wedgie


Bingo, my thoughts exactly.

langer420
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.07.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
Brennan is Kostka 2.0.

We dont need another offensive dman who cant play in his own zone

- jbold




Clearly you don't see what kostaks doing in Chicago. Helping the best team in the league, il take that. But gardiner or Reilly have to be hurt for that call up
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
RNH/Shultz

Couture/Burns

..Would you do that?

- iTOLDu

Obvs. The better question would be does SJ?
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