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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:07 PM ET
(frank) the team has been dynamite since his return
- Garnie


They had lost like 4 of 5 games when he first came back, but since then they have been dynamite. Credit also to Kadri and the second line for finally adding secondary scoring. Kadris hot streak coincides with our recent hot stretch. Gotta give that kid credit too.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 31 @ 8:07 PM ET
There's overpaid, and then there's way over paid... All teams have some amount of it but not like this. Clarkson as of today is making 3 plus million more than he should... I'm not saying he can't turn it around some and I hope he does, but contenders don't have guys brutally overpaid like this. Or if they do they trade them shortly thereafter - Brian Campbell...
- aminnes



3 mill too much is a bit over dramatic.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jan 31 @ 8:07 PM ET
Decent prospect for a player we need at the moment.

Are we sellers now or something?

Some of the ideas that get thrown around here. Sheesh!!

- Cherry--Skoal


Well its that or watch him walk in the summer? Unless we include him in a package with franson++ for Girardi, make smart decisions not poor decisions, is kuli long term with us? probably not
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 31 @ 8:08 PM ET
Hes 20 how is he terrible
- Mapleleafs_91




He get raked by his peers.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 31 @ 8:08 PM ET
Give him time, I believe he's worth more than $2.5m

(frank)ing guy has barely seen the ice and when he does he's out there with smurfs.

It's not his style Clarkson/Bolland/Kulemen would be a great 2nd/3rd line Imo

- Garnie


I believe he is in his career, but based on this year alone, he might be worth less...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:09 PM ET
3 mill too much is a bit over dramatic.
- burn


The crazies are loose. I just smile, nod and agree. They eventually move on to the next target to release their frustrations on. I think you're it right now.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:09 PM ET
Well its that or watch him walk in the summer? Unless we include him in a package with franson++ for Girardi, make smart decisions not poor decisions, is kuli long term with us? probably not
- Mapleleafs_91


We could also lose Girardi in the off season, unless we severely over pay for him...ala Phaneuf.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 31 @ 8:10 PM ET
They had lost like 4 of 5 games when he first came back, but since then they have been dynamite. Credit also to Kadri and the second line for finally adding secondary scoring. Kadris hot streak coincides with our recent hot stretch. Gotta give that kid credit too.
- systemtool

Meh, Kadri had A good game.

It's the #1 line IMO that's got it going on.

Sure Kadri's got some assists but he just hasn't shone too much.

I liked the Holland/Bodie line almost better right now

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 31 @ 8:11 PM ET
I believe he is in his career, but based on this year alone, he might be worth less...
- aminnes



This year has barely started for him

Suspension than injuries, played through injuries and then more injured.

If his name was Crosby would you give him more time?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:12 PM ET
Meh, Kadri had A good game.

It's the #1 line IMO that's got it going on.

Sure Kadri's got some assists but he just hasn't shone too much.

I liked the Holland/Bodie line almost better right now

- Garnie



He's got 12 points in 8 games, 4 of those 8 games were multipoint games... He's pretty much carrying that 2nd line...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:12 PM ET
This year has barely started for him

Suspension than injuries, played through injuries, got suspended and then more injured.

If his name was Crosby would you give him more time?

- Garnie


Fixed.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 31 @ 8:13 PM ET
The crazies are loose. I just smile, nod and agree. They eventually move on to the next target to release their frustrations on. I think you're it right now.
- systemtool


Oh, system tool with another personal shot... Cause your crazy to not support everything the LEafs do. I guess you must be part of the organization with all the "we" talk... It's just crazy to criticize the Leafs, I mean poop, they win cups all the time, they've always been good...
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 31 @ 8:14 PM ET
We could also lose Girardi in the off season, unless we severely over pay for him...ala Phaneuf.
- systemtool


Phaneuf is earning his salary this year...
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 31 @ 8:14 PM ET
He's got 12 points in 8 games, 4 of those 8 games were multipoint games...
- systemtool



I know, a couple 2nd assists etc.

You know what I mean. Montreal great game - then not a lot until the 2 goal game

I like Kadri, I'm not here to knock him or trade him, just don't think he stirs the drink as much as he should or we would like him too
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:14 PM ET
Oh, system tool with another personal shot... Cause your crazy to not support everything the LEafs do. I guess you must be part of the organization with all the "we" talk... It's just crazy to criticize the Leafs, I mean poop, they win cups all the time, they've always been good...
- aminnes


Okay. Awesome.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jan 31 @ 8:15 PM ET
We could also lose Girardi in the off season, unless we severely over pay for him...ala Phaneuf.
- systemtool


Hard to see us trading for him than losing him since hes an ontario boy, whats he asking for 5-6M? even if he gets 5 thats not bad at all since gleason is getting 4M and girardi is the better player
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 31 @ 8:15 PM ET
Fixed.
- systemtool


Thanks forgot about the 2 game headshot suspension
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:15 PM ET
I know, a couple 2nd assists etc.

You know what I mean. Montreal great game - then not a lot until the 2 goal game

I like Kadri, I'm not here to knock him or trade him, just don't think he stirs the drink as much as he should or we would like him too

- Garnie


Hey, All im saying is if you're going to give Bozak credit for having 4 points in his last 8 games, it's only logical to concede Kadri has been just as impactful with triple the amount of points in those games. I don't even like Kadri....

Just to be clear, im talking about our recent hot streak, not the whole season.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 31 @ 8:16 PM ET
This year has barely started for him

Suspension than injuries, played through injuries and then more injured.

If his name was Crosby would you give him more time?

- Garnie



Honestly, it's how he looks on the ice. He looks like a lost puppy running around... Some of the dumb stuff he's done... Me giving him more time means nothing - he'll get more time, but I for one, would rather keep Kulemin and trade Clarkson...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:17 PM ET
Hard to see us trading for him than losing him since hes an ontario boy, whats he asking for 5-6M? even if he gets 5 thats not bad at all since gleason is getting 4M and girardi is the better player
- Mapleleafs_91


Im just not sure we can afford all that. Havent looked at what cap space we have, but I don't image it to be much. Especially with a lot of contracts coming up.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 31 @ 8:17 PM ET
Meh, Kadri had A good game.

It's the #1 line IMO that's got it going on.

Sure Kadri's got some assists but he just hasn't shone too much.

I liked the Holland/Bodie line almost better right now

- Garnie




Holland Bodie had a good game. I liked them, but come on. KAdri 12pts in 8 games, Kulemin 3 goals last 8, Lupul 7pts. That line is producing.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jan 31 @ 8:18 PM ET
He get raked by his peers.
- burn


Niskanen?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 31 @ 8:18 PM ET
Phaneuf is earning his salary this year...
- aminnes


Just needs to step up his point production

But for sure he's D has been better.

Not sure if I'd ever give him $8m to play on a team I ran, rather trade him and be terrible ( if that happened ) and wait for the Super D that will eventually come available

Just my opinion, not trying to argue with you ( even if it seems that way )
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:18 PM ET
Holland Bodie had a good game. I liked them, but come on. KAdri 12pts in 8 games, Kulemin 3 goals last 8, Lupul 7pts. That line is producing.
- burn


We would still be struggling if they didn't. We give up too many goals a game to rely on one scoring line, and that second line has played a big role (granted not the only reason) as to why we have points in 9 of our last 10 games.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jan 31 @ 8:20 PM ET
Im just not sure we can afford all that. Havent looked at what cap space we have, but I don't image it to be much. Especially with a lot of contracts coming up.
- systemtool


Should me enough if we make the room for it. If guys like kuli, franson, raymond are on their way out, plus cap rising, there will be room
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