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Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jan 31 @ 5:14 PM ET
Whats this??....List of 4th line plugs??
- Fruitcakenipple


Just an overview how the players have contributed to the team in 3rd/4th line roles.

Id like to see leivo and bodie and mckegg finally to get a go to get more games in.

If you go by differentials for pts and games, leivo and bodie have the advantage
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jan 31 @ 5:15 PM ET
Huh...thats funny because D'Amigo has more goals and only one less point in the NHL and Ashton has played 11 more games...I could not give 2 poops who has more AHL points, D'Amigo has played better and been more valubule IMO when he has the chance to play with TOR.
- BoTtLePoLiCe


Well, thats pretty much the same ppg, so can't see how he's better.
So in 180 minutes of Ice time, Ashton has 3 points. (a point every 60 minutes)
In 150 minutes of Ice time, D'Amigo has 2. (a point every 75 minutes)
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
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Jan 31 @ 5:16 PM ET
Well, thats pretty much the same ppg, so can't see how he's better.
- mykokes


he has 2 pts in 19 games, he is statistically better but not better than the likes of leivo, smith, bodie
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:18 PM ET
he has 2 pts in 19 games, he is statistically better but not better than the likes of leivo, smith, bodie
- Mapleleafs_91


He's not actually....8:03 a game for 19 games vs Ashton's 6:12 a game for 30.

Yeti1181
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Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jan 31 @ 5:18 PM ET
Well, thats pretty much the same ppg, so can't see how he's better.
- mykokes

But he has more points, playing a position where points aren't the big concern.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:19 PM ET
But he has more points, playing a position where points aren't the big concern.
- Yeti1181


We're talking Ashton vs D'Amigo.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jan 31 @ 5:19 PM ET
Well, thats pretty much the same ppg, so can't see how he's better.
So in 180 minutes of Ice time, Ashton has 3 points. (a point every 60 minutes)
In 150 minutes of Ice time, D'Amigo has 2. (a point every 75 minutes)

- mykokes


To be honest, it really doesnt matter who gets the 4 minutes allocated to the fourth line.

mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
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Jan 31 @ 5:20 PM ET
To be honest, it really doesnt matter who gets the 4 minutes allocated to the fourth line.
- Leafs43


How about we just get Orr off it and let them both play.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:20 PM ET
But he has more points, playing a position where points aren't the big concern.
- Yeti1181


Sure its a concern you at least want some extra scoring down the lines and some sort of contributions offensively and players like damigo/ashton should be contributing more they are not duds, they know how to play a decent game, its almost as equal to orr and mclaren doing nothing
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 31 @ 5:20 PM ET
Just an overview how the players have contributed to the team in 3rd/4th line roles.

Id like to see leivo and bodie and mckegg finally to get a go to get more games in.

If you go by differentials for pts and games, leivo and bodie have the advantage

- Mapleleafs_91


Meh..


Leivo and McKegg the only interesting players..The rest dime a dozen career AHLers that could be called up for a couple games...
Yeti1181
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Edmonton Oilers
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Jan 31 @ 5:20 PM ET
We're talking Ashton vs D'Amigo.
- mykokes

I know, which is why it makes even less sense d amigo was supposed to be an offensive guy and has produced at all.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
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Jan 31 @ 5:21 PM ET
Meh..


Leivo and McKegg the only interesting players..The rest dine a dozen career AHLers that could be called up for a couple games...

- Fruitcakenipple


Again, why is Ashton less interesting than McKegg?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:22 PM ET
Meh..


Leivo and McKegg the only interesting players
..The rest dine a dozen career AHLers that could be called up for a couple games...

- Fruitcakenipple


Thats pretty much what i think always, but bodie works pretty hard i like his efforts
Yeti1181
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Edmonton Oilers
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Jan 31 @ 5:22 PM ET
Sure its a concern you at least want some extra scoring down the lines and some sort of contributions offensively and players like damigo/ashton should be contributing more they are not duds, they know how to play a decent game, its almost as equal to orr and mclaren doing nothing
- Mapleleafs_91

Not the end all stat when talking about 3 or 4 lines they are shutdown and energy lines points out of them are a bonus.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:23 PM ET
Not the end all stat when talking about 3 or 4 lines they are shutdown and energy lines points out of them are a bonus.
- Yeti1181


Is there an area that D'Amigo has outperformed Ashton in that 4th line role?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:24 PM ET
Again, why is Ashton less interesting than McKegg?
- mykokes


Well for that its like comparing ashton to leivo as well, both mckegg and leivo have a higher skillset and hockey IQ, leivo knows how to score and has the moves, mckeggs a playmaker, ashton is ashton
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
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Jan 31 @ 5:24 PM ET
How about we just get Orr off it and let them both play.
- mykokes


Sure, I'm not really concerned with who is on the fourth line.

I am more concerned with how little time the fourth line gets. Our team is going to be completely gassed for the playoffs (Assuming we make them) if the fourth line isnt used more often.

Yeti1181
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Edmonton Oilers
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Jan 31 @ 5:25 PM ET
Is there an area that D'Amigo has outperformed Ashton in that 4th line role?
- mykokes

Ffs man I'm arguing the same thing as you. Focus
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:25 PM ET
Is there an area that D'Amigo has outperformed Ashton in that 4th line role?
- mykokes


IMO, from the games I watched, D'Amigo worked harder, hustled more, made smarter hockey decisions and played well at both ends of the ice. He was nothing great, but I did feel he played a better overall game than Ashton.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:25 PM ET
Not the end all stat when talking about 3 or 4 lines they are shutdown and energy lines points out of them are a bonus.
- Yeti1181


Well its like comparing bodie now to all of this, he has chipped in offensively, worked hard, fighting etc and still contributed at an OKAY rate better than ashton and damigo within the amount of games played
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:26 PM ET
IMO, from the games I watched, D'Amigo worked harder, hustled more, made smarter hockey decisions and played well at both ends of the ice. He was nothing great, but I did feel he played a better overall game than Ashton.
- systemtool


I feel the same
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
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Jan 31 @ 5:26 PM ET
Sure, I'm not really concerned with who is on the fourth line.

I am more concerned with how little time the fourth line gets. Our team is going to be completely gassed for the playoffs (Assuming we make them) if the fourth line isnt used more often.

- Leafs43



They go hand in hand though. If you want them to play more, shouldn't you be concerned with the guys you're giving those minutes too? Are you fine with playing Orr more or would you rather see Ashton/D'Amigo play more?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 31 @ 5:27 PM ET
Well for that its like comparing ashton to leivo as well, both mckegg and leivo have a higher skillset and hockey IQ, leivo knows how to score and has the moves, mckeggs a playmaker, ashton is ashton
- Mapleleafs_91


Based on what? Leivo I can see it, but why is Ashton just Ashton? Is it because they had better junior careers? If that's the criteria, than I guess Michal Repik should've been a better NHLer than Milan Lucic. I know that's an extreme example, but why do we write of Ashton? I'll tell you why, because of the stupid decision to use him as a 20 year old. This year aside from getting his face punched in, what exactly has he done wrong? And can you really write off a guy based on getting the poopty assignment of 6 minutes with Orr?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 31 @ 5:27 PM ET
Meh..


Leivo and McKegg the only interesting players..The rest dine a dozen career AHLers that could be called up for a couple games...

- Fruitcakenipple



Completely agree.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jan 31 @ 5:27 PM ET
They go hand in hand though. If you want them to play more, shouldn't you be concerned with the guys you're giving those minutes too? Are you fine with playing Orr more or would you rather see Ashton/D'Amigo play more?
- systemtool


I rather not see Orr and actually play an NHL fourth line.
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