Which is fine with me, right now. If they give their best effort and lose, then you can't blame the players or coach. But when they're not giving 100% every night, then they need to absorb a large portion of the blame. In the NHL, if you give 95%, you will lose 95% of the time.
- jmatchett383

very true
if they consistently play hard and smart they should be a 94-98 point team and in the playoffs, hopefully they figure that out soon!

Yeah, it'd really be cool to see all of the bigger market teams, and how they've done historically with their attendance?
- Flyers_V88

Even the "small" market teams like Buffalo, Minnesota, and the Canadian teams don't have attendance problems.

Even the "small" market teams like Buffalo, Minnesota, and the Canadian teams don't have attendance problems.
- jmatchett383

"Small" maybe in relative population or density, or whatever. Yet, I'd say the Buffalo's and Minnesota's, etc, are actually the stronger pure hockey markets. Obviously the Canadian markets speak for themselves, albeit their poor earning power.

Fox news just reported that the NHL is considering pulling out of the Sochi games due to terrorism/security concerns. Wow, thats scary. How bad must the threat be if they would actually consider pulling out this close to the Olympics.

Which is fine with me, right now. If they give their best effort and lose, then you can't blame the players or coach. But when they're not giving 100% every night, then they need to absorb a large portion of the blame. In the NHL, if you give 95%, you will lose 95% of the time.
- jmatchett383

Can I have a link to an excellent graph that supports your claim...

"Small" maybe in relative population or density, or whatever. Yet, I'd say the Buffalo's and Minnesota's, etc, are actually the stronger pure hockey markets. Obviously the Canadian markets speak for themselves, albeit their poor earning power.
- Flyers_V88

I was talking about earning capacity/economics ("large" markets being the Metroploitan division, Phoenix, etc.)

"Small" maybe in relative population or density, or whatever. Yet, I'd say the Buffalo's and Minnesota's, etc, are actually the stronger pure hockey markets. Obviously the Canadian markets speak for themselves, albeit their poor earning power.
- Flyers_V88

Believe it or not the North Stars used to struggle with attendance when the team was bad. Minnesota fans would rather watch high school or college hockey at a much cheaper ticket price than a bad NHL team.

Fox news just reported that the NHL is considering pulling out of the Sochi games due to terrorism/security concerns. Wow, thats scary. How bad must the threat be if they would actually consider pulling out this close to the Olympics.
- BiggE

Does that mean that USA/Canada/Sweden wouldn't be able to ice teams? Because their rosters have already been submitted.

Believe it or not the North Stars used to struggle with attendance when the team was bad. Minnesota fans would rather watch high school or college hockey at a much cheaper ticket price than a bad NHL team.
- BiggE

That's a very good point.

Can I have a link to an excellent graph that supports your claim...
- youarewrong

Fox news just reported that the NHL is considering pulling out of the Sochi games due to terrorism/security concerns. Wow, thats scary. How bad must the threat be if they would actually consider pulling out this close to the Olympics.
- BiggE

The Omen.....

I doubt Hartnell would waive his NTC. But I was talking about Timonen and Mez. Do you still want this mass overhaul to happen if they're firmly locked in the #2 spot int he division at the TDL?
- jmatchett383

yes because this team will collapse eventually

yes because this team will collapse eventually
- 2Real

Loving your perpetual optimism.

Does that mean that USA/Canada/Sweden wouldn't be able to ice teams? Because their rosters have already been submitted.
- jmatchett383

I guess, I really don't know. The story didnt contain much detail or any quotes from any NHL or Olympic officials.

Fox news just reported that the NHL is considering pulling out of the Sochi games due to terrorism/security concerns. Wow, thats scary. How bad must the threat be if they would actually consider pulling out this close to the Olympics.
- BiggE

why would the nhl pull out? you mean the nhl players?

Loving your perpetual optimism.
- jmatchett383

dude look at our current team and prospects and look at other teams and their prospects we have a long way to go

Fox news just reported that the NHL is considering pulling out of the Sochi games due to terrorism/security concerns. Wow, thats scary. How bad must the threat be if they would actually consider pulling out this close to the Olympics.
- BiggE

That's been in the news for the past week or so... a lot of players' families have already elected to not go to the games to be safe. Bettman said if the situation becomes more urgent, he wouldn't hesitate to pull NHL support, but in the meantime, everything is still a go.

why would the nhl pull out? you mean the nhl players?
- 2Real

Yes.

I think there is a provision for the league to pull the plug on this if they want to.

That said, I doubt that will happen, but this little bit of hand wringing will make it much better for when the NHL says "No" for sending players for the next two Winter Olympics.

That's been in the news for the past week or so... a lot of players' families have already elected to not go to the games to be safe. Bettman said if the situation becomes more urgent, he wouldn't hesitate to pull NHL support, but in the meantime, everything is still a go.
- Tomahawk

I wouldn't allow the players over there if I was an owner. You have a vested interest in their safety, and right now I wouldn't want any player, especially a US born player, over in a hostile environment.

That's been in the news for the past week or so... a lot of players' families have already elected to not go to the games to be safe. Bettman said if the situation becomes more urgent, he wouldn't hesitate to pull NHL support, but in the meantime, everything is still a go.
- Tomahawk

The Pope releasing the doves as a symbol for peace at the Olympics was pretty scary if you believe in such things.

The Pope releasing the doves as a symbol for peace at the Olympics was pretty scary if you believe in such things.
- PLindbergh31

Yes it was.. and I don't believe in such things.

I'd start scouting the draft, if I were you.
- PhillySportsGuy

Huh. That's not very positive.

why would the nhl pull out? you mean the nhl players?
- 2Real

They said the NHL, I would assume they mean the players.

I had a dream last night Homer traded Coburn and Mason to EDM for Nail and Laughton and a 1st for Miller and Myers.

I guess I should say nightmare, huh?

Yes it was.. and I don't believe in such things.
- Panthers88

I do... I have a feeling something bad is going to happen. I don't think security there is going to be up to standard.