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dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:41 PM ET
I can't see a team contending for the cup(which is what is going to be going for Vanek)giving up a top four Dman or an NHL goalie(guessing you're referring too a prospect hence the "young" part?).
- Cptmjl



Yeah, I don't think anyone who's going to want Vanek for a Cup run is going to give us a proven veteran NHL goaltender, but hopefully someone out there has the next Bernier- a guy who is waiting for his chance, with someone in his way. As I said last night, if we can get that and one of the draft picks back, that would make it less painful- I'd have traded Moulson and a draft pick for a top shelf goaltending prospect in a heartbeat, without hesitation.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 27 @ 2:41 PM ET
Replace McDonald with Lee
- Vukota


I like Lee.. but he needs to work on skating. He is still very slow.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jan 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
Danformo...you have a lot of if's there....
- kear20


Iknow, but you asked how would they be dangerous

If vanek was traded and resigned, this team would be lightyears better its not even funny
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jan 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
Why are the only team in the team in the NHL that wants some of their players playing in the minors at the Olympic break... their defense stinks and the one prospect that they do have in deHaan is being sent down...I don't get it... Like I said all along I'm not sure if the Islanders are in it to win...
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
I'm just thinking: Reinhart, Pulock, Pokka, de Haan, Hamonic, Pelech, Mayfield.....unless we move one or more of them, he's likely a seven on the best day of his life.
- dcb1


That is a bit aggressive... Donovan was fantastic last year in the Bridge.. he isn't killing it in NHL this year but I have not given up on the kid. While I hope you are right about the other prospects.. they are prospects and u just don't know.. especially defensive prospects which usually take longer to develop.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jan 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
I like Lee.. but he needs to work on skating. He is still very slow.
- niteislander

Not sure they sign him...wouldn't be suprised if he is traded...
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jan 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
Good article...must read:

http://www.theglobeandmai...ic-break/article16516732/

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 27 @ 2:49 PM ET
Iknow, but you asked how would they be dangerous

If vanek was traded and resigned, this team would be lightyears better its not even funny

- Danformo

If he's traded he isn't coming back.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jan 27 @ 2:52 PM ET
If he's traded he isn't coming back.
- Cptmjl


Says? Vanek himself said he would consider signing here in the offseason.

I strongly believe that if things don't work out with Minny he will come back
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Jan 27 @ 2:55 PM ET
Why are the only team in the team in the NHL that wants some of their players playing in the minors at the Olympic break... their defense stinks and the one prospect that they do have in deHaan is being sent down...I don't get it... Like I said all along I'm not sure if the Islanders are in it to win...
- kear20


Because we are the only team in the NHL that has Snow as the GM and Cappy as the head coach. Just another ridiculous move by our fearless leaders.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 27 @ 2:55 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=442309 Fraser pretty harshly calls Toronto on their b.s. ruling.
- niteislander

I think it's hysterical that some people think it was a good call. Just trying to argue.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
Says? Vanek himself said he would consider signing here in the offseason.

I strongly believe that if things don't work out with Minny he will come back

- Danformo

Me and history. If we trade him he's not coming back. Total pipe dream, Snow has to try and get him signed now.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 27 @ 2:57 PM ET
You ever see Dumb and Dumber?
- niteislander

Oh ok
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 27 @ 2:57 PM ET
I like Lee.. but he needs to work on skating. He is still very slow.
- niteislander



Can't be any worse the CMC that's for sure
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 27 @ 2:58 PM ET
Why are the only team in the team in the NHL that wants some of their players playing in the minors at the Olympic break... their defense stinks and the one prospect that they do have in deHaan is being sent down...I don't get it... Like I said all along I'm not sure if the Islanders are in it to win...
- kear20

Strome I understand, I actually think it may help his game when he comes back. If DeHaan goes down it's a stupid move. The kid has been our best defenseman. Sending him down to me is almost like throwing in the towel and if it's not perceived by management that way it is beyond stupid.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 27 @ 3:04 PM ET
Strome I understand, I actually think it may help his game when he comes back. If DeHaan goes down it's a stupid move. The kid has been our best defenseman. Sending him down to me is almost like throwing in the towel and if it's not perceived by management that way it is beyond stupid.
- Cptmjl



agreed...strome could use some tweaking...dehaan has shown that he can play and play a lot of minutes.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 27 @ 3:06 PM ET
Me and history. If we trade him he's not coming back. Total pipe dream, Snow has to try and get him signed now.
- Cptmjl

Why? If the guy said he'd consider it himself, why not? Are you saying that the isles won't look his way again or that Vanek is just blowing smoke?
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Jan 27 @ 3:13 PM ET
Can't be any worse the CMC that's for sure
- Vukota


When he's skating at top speed to try and beat out an icing, it looks like he has a hockey stick up his ass.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
When he's skating at top speed to try and beat out an icing, it looks like he has a hockey stick up his ass.
- Charlie21


That's what keeps him upright!
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
Why? If the guy said he'd consider it himself, why not? Are you saying that the isles won't look his way again or that Vanek is just blowing smoke?
- keaner17


It's obvious that Minnesota is his 1st choice and since they will have the cash to make an offer close to what the isles can offer he will sign there. It's pretty simple. He is saying all the right things and I think he likes it here but its pretty clear if he is not signed by the deadline he is waiting to see what minny can offer
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 27 @ 3:15 PM ET
When he's skating at top speed to try and beat out an icing, it looks like he has a hockey stick up his ass.
- Charlie21


I can't stand him. Slow, terrible in his own end and just doesn't score enough to justify keeping him in the lineup. Honestly I would rather dress Boulton every night
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jan 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
It's obvious that Minnesota is his 1st choice and since they will have the cash to make an offer close to what the isles can offer he will sign there. It's pretty simple. He is saying all the right things and I think he likes it here but its pretty clear if he is not signed by the deadline he is waiting to see what minny can offer
- Vukota


The thing is Minny may not have as much cash as one would think
3 RFA (2 key players) this summer will likely receive raises totaling aorund 5-6.5$mill
Yes they lose heatly, but they will need to sign 5 new players also, they too will be around 3 mill
And the next summer they have 5 more RFA, 3 of them key players, Minne will be cap strapped, and if they manage to have them ALL fit under WITH Vanek, then it would be quite amazing.
Simply put, Minne cannot come close to what the Isles can offer, Minne will max out at around 7.25 I believe and even that is hard for them

The Isles still have a shot.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 27 @ 3:19 PM ET
It's obvious that Minnesota is his 1st choice and since they will have the cash to make an offer close to what the isles can offer he will sign there. It's pretty simple. He is saying all the right things and I think he likes it here but its pretty clear if he is not signed by the deadline he is waiting to see what minny can offer
- Vukota

Agreed, but I don't think that makes it a foregone conclusion he won't be back. As I said, if Minnesota has different plans, he very well could decide based on his experiences that he'll continue here.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 27 @ 3:21 PM ET
The thing is Minny may not have as much cash as one would think
3 RFA (2 key players) this summer will likely receive raises totaling aorund 5-6.5$mill
Yes they lose heatly, but they will need to sign 5 new players also, they too will be around 3 mill
And the next summer they have 5 more RFA, 3 of them key players, Minne will be cap strapped, and if they manage to have them ALL fit under WITH Vanek, then it would be quite amazing.
Simply put, Minne cannot come close to what the Isles can offer, Minne will max out at around 7.25 I believe and even that is hard for them

The Isles still have a shot.

- Danformo


Then again, for all we know, Minnesota isn't even really on his radar and he simply wants to SEE the offers he'll get. Afterall, this is his final big UFA payday, I imagine his agent would be chirping in his ear advising he doesn't take the first deal thrown in front of him.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jan 27 @ 3:21 PM ET


That is a bit aggressive... Donovan was fantastic last year in the Bridge.. he isn't killing it in NHL this year but I have not given up on the kid. While I hope you are right about the other prospects.. they are prospects and u just don't know.. especially defensive prospects which usually take longer to develop.

- niteislander



Just appears to be slow to me is all.
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