I think Timonen gets a bit of a bad rap, especially from Pens fans.... His current contract seems absurd and the Pens have played well against him as a Flyer at times, but you're right, there was a handful of years where he was one of the better all around defensemen in the league.
- rival22

He was a very quiet, sound player. Never an elite defender, but he was a guy you could play 22 minutes a night and he'd end up as a +1 with a primary assist while breaking up 2 odd-man rushes and you wouldn't even notice him.

I don't think either ends up with the penguins I think shero will be looking to add someone who will be under contract after this year probably someone off the radar nobody is thinking about.

I'm not so sure the Penguins aren't scouting Colorado for Parenteau
- Ryan_Wilson

2 more years at $4 mil. Not sure Shero goes that rout.

Just another word, take it or leave it.

Throughout the mid-90s and early 2000s, the Flyers went into every season as a possible SC contender because they had an imposing offense, a good defense, and a goaltender that, for the most part, was a capable NHL goalie.

And EVERY YEAR they gave up prospects or high picks for a big fish at the TDL. And it never once panned out. Whether it was Hawerchuk, Oates, Zhamnov, etc. never once did it pan out.

I think the Penguins are in the same boat, and should avoid trading picks/prospects for the big UFA fish.
- jmatchett383

I agree. With the Cap going up I really do think the Penguins would be better served to stay away from any rental player costing more than a 2nd-rounder or a B-level prospect & simply address their needs via UFA or hockey-trades (ie, non-rental player trades).

Lower-tier rentals (ie, 3rd or 4th liners) can certainly serve a purpose, but the higher priced ones just never seem like they are worth it to me.

Love seeing gibbons on the top line and Kobasew on the 5th , I think Bylsma has finally lost faith in him( which should have happend a long time ago). Do you think Pyatt is worth what we're paying him ? Maybe but not sure.

Love seeing gibbons on the top line and Kobasew on the 5th , I think Bylsma has finally lost faith in him( which should have happend a long time ago). Do you think Pyatt is worth what we're paying him ? Maybe but not sure.
- Bradlee3

Nope

Not to plug another blog, but a good read about just how bad Root Sports is (broadcasters aside):

http://www.thepensblog.co...he-viewer-experience.html
- rival22

They're spot on too. i am always happy to have a choice of tv feeds when it comes to a pens' game. ROOT is unwatchable. The network has determined they can better tell the story than the players themselves.

I'm not so sure the Penguins aren't scouting Colorado for Parenteau
- Ryan_Wilson

PAP would be a solid addition for you guys. He is an interesting case for the Avs as well. Right now playing 3rd line with MacKinnon and Talbot but probably should be playing with Stastny or Duchene instead.

But McGinn with Duchene and O'Reilly and Stastny with Tanguay and Landeskog have been such good lines lately, its hard to bump one of them off.

Losing him would be too big of a hit with the Avs playoff bound, and I dont think you have the forward depth to send something back to replace him It would be more of an offseason trade if anything

McGinn for a Dman is the better option for both teams.

Love seeing gibbons on the top line and Kobasew on the 5th , I think Bylsma has finally lost faith in him( which should have happend a long time ago). Do you think Pyatt is worth what we're paying him ? Maybe but not sure.
- Bradlee3

Eh, probably not at the $1.55M/yr he is currently getting, but with the Cap going up next year I'd consider him at $1.1M/yr or so. Mike Rupp is getting $1.5M/yr from the Wild and the Pens could use some size/PPT net front presence.

2 more years at $4 mil. Not sure Shero goes that rout.
- dbell646

on the flipside, it isn't an expensive hit for a guy who can log productive top 6 minutes and comes with that cost certainty, which would allow them to forgo the free agent overpayment frenzy. his addition would, theoretically, set the 3rd line of sutter, bennet, and dupuis (just as an example).

it would almost certainly spell doom for orpik or niskannen though come july 1

PAP would be a solid addition for you guys. He is an interesting case for the Avs as well. Right now playing 3rd line with MacKinnon and Talbot but probably should be playing with Stastny or Duchene instead.

But McGinn with Duchene and O'Reilly and Stastny with Tanguay and Landeskog have been such good lines lately, its hard to bump one of them off.

Losing him would be too big of a hit with the Avs playoff bound, and I dont think you have the forward depth to send something back to replace him It would be more of an offseason trade if anything

McGinn for a Dman is the better option for both teams.
- DDM-Coga

Parenteau is a solid player, but at $4M for the next 2 yrs he isn't what the Penguins need. The Pens don't need anymore 1st or 2nd liners; they need 3rd liners and 4th liners.

Of the Bottome-6 the only players i'd like to see back next season are Sutter, Megna and maybe Vitale. The new Cap money should allow Shero to address this area via overpaying a bit for UFA players, but its a glaring weakness at the moment.

The only forward prospect I would want would be Bennett. I dont see Ott or Moulson being enough to land him though.

on the flipside, it isn't an expensive hit for a guy who can log productive top 6 minutes and comes with that cost certainty, which would allow them to forgo the free agent overpayment frenzy. his addition would, theoretically, set the 3rd line of sutter, bennet, and dupuis (just as an example).

it would almost certainly spell doom for orpik or niskannen though come july 1
- akane13

I don't see him taking Dupers spot when Duper is healthy. Either way you are paying a guy 3/4 mil to play on your 3rd line? That's just not going to work.

I don't see him taking Dupers spot when Duper is healthy. Either way you are paying a guy 3/4 mil to play on your 3rd line? That's just not going to work.
- dbell646

It will next year and beyond the way the cap is set to go

It will next year and beyond the way the cap is set to go
- Deadstar

Sutter will be the only player in our bottom 6 making more then 3 mil per

I don't see him taking Dupers spot when Duper is healthy. Either way you are paying a guy 3/4 mil to play on your 3rd line? That's just not going to work.
- dbell646

True. Though Jokinen is UFA at the year so so maybe you slot him in on the second line?

adater ‏@adater 2m
PA Parenteau will be a healthy scratch tonight for #Avs


Hope the Pens don't have a scout in Dallas to watch him tonight

Sutter will be the only player in our bottom 6 making more then 3 mil per
- dbell646

I don't know, I think the Pens are going to have enough money to spend $3/4 Million on another 3rd liner to go with Sutter and Megna next year. Assuming Dupuis and Bennett are both in the top 6 next year, the Pens have $15.5 Million in cap space next year for the 3rd line, 1 defenseman, and 2 4th liners. That includes Adams and Ebbett as 12/13th forwards. If Ebbett isn't back up with the Pens next year, then they have $16 Million and a 13th forward to resign as well.

True. Though Jokinen is UFA at the year so so maybe you slot him in on the second line?
- akane13

I would as of now. Bennett hasn't stayed healthy long enough to take that spot. Not sure they resign Jokinen but I'd like them to. Offseason will be very interesting.

Not overvaluing, just giving you the response in the context of the situation, which is he isn't moving, at least not anytime in the next few years. Obviously, no one is untradable, but your rather ridiculous example completely ignores the context of the situation, which is the Pens believe they have an emerging star in Maata who is under their long term control on an ELC. The return would have to be staggering at this point, and it certainly isn't going to be for a rental. In other words, MAATA IS NOT GOING TO BE TRADED.
- Emperor Filonius

Again, who is your source?

I really don't care for your opinion, everyone has one.

Let's talk facts.

I don't know, I think the Pens are going to have enough money to spend $3/4 Million on another 3rd liner to go with Sutter and Megna next year. Assuming Dupuis and Bennett are both in the top 6 next year, the Pens have $15.5 Million in cap space next year for the 3rd line, 1 defenseman, and 2 4th liners. That includes Adams and Ebbett as 12/13th forwards. If Ebbett isn't back up with the Pens next year, then they have $16 Million and a 13th forward to resign as well.
- PensFan1103

Goalie?

Again, who is your source?

I really don't care for your opinion, everyone has one.

Let's talk facts.
- bjm1717

Ok, what are the facts that suggest Maatta will be traded since you seem to think he will?

adater ‏@adater 2m
PA Parenteau will be a healthy scratch tonight for #Avs


Hope the Pens don't have a scout in Dallas to watch him tonight
- rival22

If they do that scout is lucky. It's like 50 degrees there.

Goalie?
- dbell646

Yeah, technically Capgeek already has Zatkoff in there, which if we don't get a better backup this year to go into the playoffs, I doubt they get one in the offseason, but maybe they will, and if they do, then yeah we would need to add a goalie too, but again we wouldn't have Zatkoff on the roster then, so that would be an additional $600,000 in cap space.

I don't know, I think the Pens are going to have enough money to spend $3/4 Million on another 3rd liner to go with Sutter and Megna next year. Assuming Dupuis and Bennett are both in the top 6 next year, the Pens have $15.5 Million in cap space next year for the 3rd line, 1 defenseman, and 2 4th liners. That includes Adams and Ebbett as 12/13th forwards. If Ebbett isn't back up with the Pens next year, then they have $16 Million and a 13th forward to resign as well.
- PensFan1103

Do you think they'll go after a backup goalie a la Vokoun (someone like him)? Either way, they should be in pretty good shape, although Jokinen could also want a raise if they want to keep him.