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Tomahawk
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Jan 25 @ 10:00 AM ET
If the Bruins offered Hamilton for Coburn and this year's first round pick, would you do it?
- PhillySportsGuy



Not sure how you could turn that one down... Chiarelli would have to have a brain-injury to make that kind of offer, especially in a relatively weak draft year.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:01 AM ET
What about for Coburn and a 2nd?
- BiggE


No way Boston would do that. Coburn and a first would be fair value.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:02 AM ET
Changing the topic for a moment, I know some of you as I do, live in the south Jersey shore area. Any interest in maybe meeting up at an Atlantic or Cape May Co. sports bar to watch a game?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
What about for Coburn and a 2nd?
- BiggE


That I might consider. I don't trade a 1st for this year unless it's a bona fide number one or a young veteran who looks like he'll be a top pair guy.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
No way Boston would do that. Coburn and a first would be fair value.
- PhillySportsGuy


I can dream can't I?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
It's a good point. Berube has gotten the wins that at least opened the door to hope for the season after the 1-7 start, but his lineup choices baffle me. If you have to force in Lecavalier at center, why not bump Hartnell up to the Giroux-Voracek line, and drop Raffl down to 3rd line LW, with Read on the right side? Or even drop Raffl to the fourth line to give that line a bit more skill and re-unite Dowine with Couturier and Read?

I also hate the defense pairs. I don't like Grossmann & Streit together, and Schenn and Meszaros pairs two guys prone to mental mistakes and bad reads together.

I'd rather see 44-22, 5-32 & 41-8 if they won't bring in Gustafsson.

- Jsaquella


I realize that whatever's up with Steve Downie, whether he's hurt or not, he doesn't appear to be getting any breaks in the lineup.

But I also know this: Sean Couturier was looking like a terrifying force when it was Read-Couturier-Downie. I realize you can't just reward guys for poor play, and if Downie did something in games or in practices, maybe you have to do something. I don't know about all that stuff, and I realize that coaches have to make those calls.

But man...Couturier was showing that he could actually score if you gave him complementary wingers. And I guess I'm just not smart enough to understand why, if Downie is healthy, that you wouldn't put that line back together and see if you could get Couturier going again, too.

I'd roll those defense pairs, too -- I mean, seriously. 5-44 is a luxury right now. But with Grossmann-Streit and Meszaros-Schenn just struggling defensively...I mean, come on. Either insert Gus and sit somebody, or change the pairings. But giving up 3, 4, 5 goals a night with the old pairings and pretending that's gonna change...well, it might. The forwards could do a better job. But the defense could do a better job, too.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
It's a good point. Berube has gotten the wins that at least opened the door to hope for the season after the 1-7 start, but his lineup choices baffle me. If you have to force in Lecavalier at center, why not bump Hartnell up to the Giroux-Voracek line, and drop Raffl down to 3rd line LW, with Read on the right side? Or even drop Raffl to the fourth line to give that line a bit more skill and re-unite Dowine with Couturier and Read?

I also hate the defense pairs. I don't like Grossmann & Streit together, and Schenn and Meszaros pairs two guys prone to mental mistakes and bad reads together.

I'd rather see 44-22, 5-32 & 41-8 if they won't bring in Gustafsson.

- Jsaquella


me 2
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
Not sure how you could turn that one down... Chiarelli would have to have a brain-injury to make that kind of offer, especially in a relatively weak draft year.
- Tomahawk


He has a very good team this year. Coburn would be the ideal acquisition. The pick would make it so the team can reload with another prospect. They would be making their current team better and sacrificing a bit long term, but not gutting their farm system.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
Changing the topic for a moment, I know some of you as I do, live in the south Jersey shore area. Any interest in maybe meeting up at an Atlantic or Cape May Co. sports bar to watch a game?
- BiggE


ShoreBuzzGate
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:04 AM ET
That I might consider. I don't trade a 1st for this year unless it's a bona fide number one or a young veteran who looks like he'll be a top pair guy.
- Jsaquella


Honestly, I think if they are willing to move Hamilton for Coburn and a 2nd its a no brainer.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:05 AM ET
ShoreBuzzGate
- Jsaquella

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:06 AM ET
Changing the topic for a moment, I know some of you as I do, live in the south Jersey shore area. Any interest in maybe meeting up at an Atlantic or Cape May Co. sports bar to watch a game?
- BiggE


I would. But you probably know this already.
Tomahawk
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Jan 25 @ 10:06 AM ET
He has a very good team this year. Coburn would be the ideal acquisition. The pick would make it so the team can reload with another prospect. They would be making their current team better and sacrificing a bit long term, but not gutting their farm system.
- PhillySportsGuy



They're on record stating they're going to stay committed to the young D they've had to call up due to injuries, especially that Bartowski-Miller pair.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
Honestly, I think if they are willing to move Hamilton for Coburn and a 2nd its a no brainer.
- BiggE


Yeah, for a second, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I'm not as sold on Hamilton as others, although he is an extremely promising young player who does project to be a top pair defenseman at least.

EDIT: Actually, yeah, I'd do it for Coburn and a 1st, too.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:09 AM ET
I would. But you probably know this already.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'll be in Key West from 1/29-2/10 so lets try to set something up for after the Olympics
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:10 AM ET
I'll be in Key West from 1/29-2/10 so lets try to set something up for after the Olympics
- BiggE


Everyone I know is going south right now. Puerto Rico, Aruba, Florida. You are all cowards! Face the cold and man up!

But yea, let me know when you get back.
Tomahawk
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Jan 25 @ 10:10 AM ET
EDIT: Actually, yeah, I'd do it for Coburn and a 1st, too.
- Jsaquella



Buahaha, welcome to the dark side.

Hamilton has a chance to be as good as Jones when all is said and done.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
Buahaha, welcome to the dark side.

Hamilton has a chance to be as good as Jones when all is said and done.

- Tomahawk


I blame my ongoing stomach issues that prevent coffee intake.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
Buahaha, welcome to the dark side.

Hamilton has a chance to be as good as Jones when all is said and done.

- Tomahawk


You know, if they decided to move Coburn, with the market for defensemen the way it is, with him signed for another couple years at his salary...they'd get some serious return, maybe more than we'd think.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
They're on record stating they're going to stay committed to the young D they've had to call up due to injuries, especially that Bartowski-Miller pair.
- Tomahawk


Difficult to win a cup with a very young defense. I think it's, at least, an intriguing deal for both sides. If you're the Bruins, you never know when the window will close. Chara will eventually show signs of decline and Krejci has had concussion issues in the past.

They may want to strike while the irons hot. Plus, they have quite a few young defenseman and the extra first round pick.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
Everyone I know is going south right now. Puerto Rico, Aruba, Florida. You are all cowards! Face the cold and man up!

But yea, let me know when you get back.

- PhillySportsGuy


oh aruba how i miss it




PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
You know, if they decided to move Coburn, with the market for defensemen the way it is, with him signed for another couple years at his salary...they'd get some serious return, maybe more than we'd think.
- AllInForFlyers


They would need to get a lot for him. He's the only guy you can pencil into the top 4 next season.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
oh aruba how i miss it





- -davies-


Everyone goes to Aruba at the same time. Whats the point in going on vacation if you have to see all the same people you just left?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
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Jan 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
You know, if they decided to move Coburn, with the market for defensemen the way it is, with him signed for another couple years at his salary...they'd get some serious return, maybe more than we'd think.
- AllInForFlyers



No doubt, Coburn could actually net a decent return. He's just really really hard to replace though, so unless a better future dman is coming back, you really can't afford to move him.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
You know, if they decided to move Coburn, with the market for defensemen the way it is, with him signed for another couple years at his salary...they'd get some serious return, maybe more than we'd think.
- AllInForFlyers


The offer from Edmonton was three 2nd rounders. i could see Coburn fetching a nice return, or maybe packaged with a forward to add a legit number one/top pair guy.
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