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No, I was totally thinking much the same thing looking at the game schedule I have on my desk just the other day. It's a brutal stretch of matchups heading into the olympics. It could get ugly like the beginning of the season again, and quick.

If memory serves correctly didnt they make the move for Grossmann right before the carnival? Maybe they'll do something soon. Hopefully.
- hereticpride

I hear ya, but with so many teams already into LTIR money and defensemen at such a premium right now, I just don't see it happening.

I hear ya, but with so many teams already into LTIR money and defensemen at such a premium right now, I just don't see it happening.
- BiggE

I have no idea how they weren't in on Del Zotto.

I know, I know, same division, blah, blah, blah...but the Flyers and Rangers have been trade partners before and MDZ would bring skills that the Flyers need.

I have no idea how they weren't in on Del Zotto.

I know, I know, same division, blah, blah, blah...but the Flyers and Rangers have been trade partners before and MDZ would bring skills that the Flyers need.
- Jsaquella

they, (NY), would risk helping a team in the same division in a race this tight?

how long ago were they trade parters & involving significant players? (in a tight race)
we all would have loved that move, I don't think NY does it unless they get an offer they can't refuse, not a lateral one.

I have no idea how they weren't in on Del Zotto.

I know, I know, same division, blah, blah, blah...but the Flyers and Rangers have been trade partners before and MDZ would bring skills that the Flyers need.
- Jsaquella

I suppose, but I still think NY would want more from a division rival than a team in the West. If MDZ blossoms in Nashville, it really doesn't affect the Rangers unless they meet in the finals one day. If he were to become a star in Philly though....

they, (NY), would risk helping a team in the same division in a race this tight?

how long ago were they trade parters & involving significant players? (in a tight race)
we all would have loved that move, I don't think NY does it unless they get an offer they can't refuse, not a lateral one.
- puckhead17

They made a lateral move. They were desperate to ship Del Zotto out, and honestly, Sather's never had issues trading with divisional rivals if it helped him out.

I suppose, but I still think NY would want more from a division rival than a team in the West. If MDZ blossoms in Nashville, it really doesn't affect the Rangers unless they meet in the finals one day. If he were to become a star in Philly though....
- BiggE

or if the Preds move to the East, like Columbus did

I suppose, but I still think NY would want more from a division rival than a team in the West. If MDZ blossoms in Nashville, it really doesn't affect the Rangers unless they meet in the finals one day. If he were to become a star in Philly though....
- BiggE

Two words. Eric Lindros.

Two More: Bob Froese.

They might want more, but basically they got a more steady version of Grossmann or Schenn. I would have parted with one of those two and a mid level prospect for MDZ's puck moving skills.

They made a lateral move. They were desperate to ship Del Zotto out, and honestly, Sather's never had issues trading with divisional rivals if it helped him out.
- Jsaquella

It was lateral because Klein is a good defensive D man VS a struggling but 40 point potential MDV

you would probably have had to offer both Schenns, problem is everyone knows Luke is struggling & Grossburger is very slow.

Two words. Eric Lindros.

Two More: Bob Froese.

They might want more, but basically they got a more steady version of Grossmann or Schenn. I would have parted with one of those two and a mid level prospect for MDZ's puck moving skills.
- Jsaquella

Lindos picked his destination, unlike MDZ, & Froese was 25 years ago

edit, I am not a Homer fan right now, but I can't blame him for not being in on MDZ when Sather won't look his way unless he overpays on purpose.

Two words. Eric Lindros.

Two More: Bob Froese.

They might want more, but basically they got a more steady version of Grossmann or Schenn. I would have parted with one of those two and a mid level prospect for MDZ's puck moving skills.
- Jsaquella

Well the risk was pretty much on the Flyers in the Lindros deal, if he could regain his top form the deal would have been a steal for the Rangers. Froese is a good example though it was 26+ years ago.

Jeez, 26 years, man I'm getting old!

Well good night all, time to return to my regularly scheduled drinking.

Catch ya tomorrow!

It was lateral because Klein is a good defensive D man VS a struggling but 40 point potential MDV

you would probably have had to offer both Schenns, problem is everyone knows Luke is struggling & Grossburger is very slow.
- puckhead17

Both Schenns would have been a massive overpayment. What the Rangers accepted isn't much better than Luke Schenn or Grossmann. Klein is a good defensive player, who plays in a strict defense first system.

I have no idea how they weren't in on Del Zotto.

I know, I know, same division, blah, blah, blah...but the Flyers and Rangers have been trade partners before and MDZ would bring skills that the Flyers need.
- Jsaquella

Hence, no trade.

But seriously, if you were in Sather's moccasins, who would you want in return from this bunch?

They made a lateral move. They were desperate to ship Del Zotto out, and honestly, Sather's never had issues trading with divisional rivals if it helped him out.
- Jsaquella

I think it depends on the player. MDZ has the potential to breakout and become a very good player. I don't think they wanted to trade a player like that within the division.

I think it's similar to the Seguin trade. Boston got a good return but there was no way they were trading him within the division or even the conference.

Both Schenns would have been a massive overpayment. What the Rangers accepted isn't much better than Luke Schenn or Grossmann. Klein is a good defensive player, who plays in a strict defense first system.
- Jsaquella

right both Schenns is too much, but Sather will not help a division rival in this tight a race, & honestly, I think Klein is a little better then Grossman & better then the horrible slump Schenn is in

Lindos picked his destination, unlike MDZ, & Froese was 25 years ago

edit, I am not a Homer fan right now, but I can't blame him for not being in on MDZ when Sather won't look his way unless he overpays on purpose.
- puckhead17

It's your opinion that he would have had to overpay, not factual. We have no idea how much it would have cost the Flyers to land Del Zotto. I imagine it would have been a bit more, but I doubt it would be as massive a payment as you suggest.

Hence, no trade.

But seriously, if you were in Sather's moccasins, who would you want in return from this bunch?
- 77rams

agreed, if your Sather u go to the west

Hence, no trade.

But seriously, if you were in Sather's moccasins, who would you want in return from this bunch?
- 77rams

They would have probably asked for Coburn.

I think it depends on the player. MDZ has the potential to breakout and become a very good player. I don't think they wanted to trade a player like that within the division.

I think it's similar to the Seguin trade. Boston got a good return but there was no way they were trading him within the division or even the conference.
- PhillySportsGuy

In conference trades happen all the time. Hell the original Kessel deal was an in-division trade.

right both Schenns is too much, but Sather will not help a division rival in this tight a race, & honestly, I think Klein is a little better then Grossman & better then the horrible slump Schenn is in
- puckhead17

You have to worry more about helping your own team. Del Zotto was a heathy scratch, the Rangers were trying like Hell to deal him. It wasn't as if they were particular.

It's your opinion that he would have had to overpay, not factual. We have no idea how much it would have cost the Flyers to land Del Zotto. I imagine it would have been a bit more, but I doubt it would be as massive a payment as you suggest.
- Jsaquella

But you used 2 bad examples, thats all I'm saying, (Lindros picked where he wanted to go) & Froese was 25 years ago, nothing since, its not like they are normal trade partners

In conference trades happen all the time. Hell the original Kessel deal was an in-division trade.
- Jsaquella

That was considered lopsided at the time as well

Hence, no trade.

But seriously, if you were in Sather's moccasins, who would you want in return from this bunch?
- 77rams

I'd have been interested in Schenn and maybe a mid tier prospect. In the right system, with the right partners, the Flyers group of defensemen can be fine, individually.

But playing together, on a team where the forwards sometimes forget there's a defensive zone and playing with each other as partners...Blech

They would have probably asked for Coburn.
- PhillySportsGuy

That wouldn't fly.

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