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aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 23 @ 2:31 PM ET
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
i know someone mentioned Johny Gudreau a few days ago...Could the flyers pick him up ala Schultz this summer? Might add some skill to the phantoms and the who knows.

2013 WJC Highlights:

PS Id love to truculently (frank) the bloated bumhole burke as much as i could.

- PhillaBully


That was me, and that's essentially what I was getting at with that post a few days ago.

It's a wait and see situation. He "supposedly" isn't very comfortable in Calgary and would rather play much closer to the East coast. The Flyers would be an immediate favorite given he is from the area and is a Flyers fan himself.

He has actually said that he "doesn't want a Justin Schultz type situation", but was asked a question pertaining to his status with the Flames and his future as a pro. I wouldn't expect him to say anything else at this time.

Going to have to wait until after the season's over. Kid is averaging 2 points a game right now in D1-NCAA hockey and is likely a shoe-in for the Hobey Baker, which he should have won last year depending on who you're asking.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
Am I the ONLY person still begging for Grossman to be scratched for Gus?

Timonen-Mezsaros
Coburn-Gus/Grossman
Streit-Schenn

I want to see these pairings regardless.

Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:37 PM ET
Am I the ONLY person still begging for Grossman to be scratched for Gus?

Timonen-Mezsaros
Coburn-Gus/Grossman
Streit-Schenn

I want to see these pairings regardless.

- mochoson

Jsaq, just became your bff
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Am I the ONLY person still begging for Grossman to be scratched for Gus?

Timonen-Mezsaros
Coburn-Gus/Grossman
Streit-Schenn

I want to see these pairings regardless.

- mochoson

I'd prefer a swap out of L.Schenn for Gustafsson.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
That was me, and that's essentially what I was getting at with that post a few days ago.

It's a wait and see situation. He "supposedly" isn't very comfortable in Calgary and would rather play much closer to the East coast. The Flyers would be an immediate favorite given he is from the area and is a Flyers fan himself.

He has actually said that he "doesn't want a Justin Schultz type situation", but was asked a question pertaining to his status with the Flames and his future as a pro. I wouldn't expect him to say anything else at this time.

Going to have to wait until after the season's over. Kid is averaging 2 points a game right now in D1-NCAA hockey and is likely a shoe-in for the Hobey Baker, which he should have won last year depending on who you're asking.

- mochoson


Sounds like he is holding out...I think he knows where he wants to go..hopefully thats the flyers.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
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- aightwebang17

this

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
Jsaq, just became your bff
- Yosimar89


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Curious to hear what all of you think of the following:

I don't see any way that the Flyers, with their issues on D, are even a dark horse contender for the Stanley Cup this year. Yes, they may make the playoffs, but it's highly doubtful, at least to me, that they would even win one round.

With that being said I propose the following:
Ask Timonen and VL if they would be receptive to a trade to a contender or in VL's case a short list of teams of his choosing. Then move them for the best available package of picks and prospects.

Trade Downie, I'm not sure he worth re-signing anyway.
Trade Grossmann. A contender looking for a defensive dman/penalty killing shot blocker just might give you a late 2nd for him.
Trade Mezsaros for what you can get for him, with his injury history I can't see them even considering to re-sign him.

This would leave the following lineup
Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Schenn-Simmonds
McGinn or Read-Couturier-Read or Akeson
VDV or Rosehill-Hall-Rinaldo

Coburn-Streit
Gustafsson-Schenn
Lauridsen-Alt
Gill

Mason
Emery

Take the lottery pick and the acquired picks and use some of that to try and land one good dman. Sign another solid depth dman with mobility in free agency. Add Laughton and one solid free agent winger and continue to build from within.

Thoughts?

- BiggE


I could only see them doing something that drastic if they fall way out of the play off race by the TDL. And with the tight race in the east I have a hard time seeing that happen. There could be 8-9 teams scrambling for the wild card spots in the east.

If they have a shot at the play offs then Kimmo and Grossmann won't be going anywhere.

Mez could be traded if someone gives a decent offer (late 2nd rounder?).

I sincerely doubt VL is going anywhere, even if they do tank in the standings. To make a big free agent signing and then turn around and look to trade the player would be unusual.

Downie, who knows. I loved his game when he came here with Read and Couts. He has struggled lately. I think let's see how he finishes the year. If they are out of it by TDL and he isn't going to resign then sure, get whatever you can.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
I was just thinking about Schenn getting embarrassed by Gerbe yesterday. Can he ever improve his skating or will be always get that slow?
- 2Real



Jesus I don't care who the dman was in that situation, Gerbe wasn't being caught.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
Am I the ONLY person still begging for Grossman to be scratched for Gus?

Timonen-Mezsaros
Coburn-Gus/Grossman
Streit-Schenn

I want to see these pairings regardless.

- mochoson

No, you are not.

I really want to see Gus back in.

Not certain the best way to do it, but maybe rotate him in for a few games, giving Big Nick a day off here and there. I would also give Timmo a rare game off or two particularly after the Olympics. Mez could be part of the rotation, even though he is hot right now.

Personally despite his struggles I would play Luke Schenn every day.
Also Streit should play every day I think, but maybe see how he does away from NG?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
Jesus I don't care who the dman was in that situation, Gerbe wasn't being caught.
- nastyflyergirl

you've been trolled
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
No, you are not.

I really want to see Gus back in.

Not certain the best way to do it, but maybe rotate him in for a few games, giving Big Nick a day off here and there. I would also give Timmo a rare game off or two particularly after the Olympics. Mez could be part of the rotation, even though he is hot right now.

Personally despite his struggles I would play Luke Schenn every day.
Also Streit should play every day I think, but maybe see how he does away from NG?

- Marc D


Other than Kimmo and Coburn, it really doesn't matter who plays. They all have large limitations. I don't think rotating them is going to help the team. It won't allow any of them to find a groove.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
I offered Holmgren's dented bike, Clarke's false teeth, Rosehill, and the future considerations of Ed Snider's next wife to Nashville for Weber but for some reason, Poile won't return my calls.
- BiggE

throw in Lauren Hart and Lou Nolan
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
Other than Kimmo and Coburn, it really doesn't matter who plays. They all have large limitations. I don't think rotating them is going to help the team. It won't allow any of them to find a groove.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think what you state here about not letting them get in a groove is true and it is the reason Berube is staying with them.

Like I mentioned I'm not sure the best way to do, it but I want to see Gus playing every game, they need to figure out if he has a future with them.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
you've been trolled
- Marc D



this site sometimes makes me want to punch a baby
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
I think we see Homer moved up into a Luukko position, Hexy takes over as GM and hires a new coaching staff and then we see some magic at the draft.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
I think what you state here about not letting them get in a groove is true and it is the reason Berube is staying with them.

Like I mentioned I'm not sure the best way to do, it but I want to see Gus playing every game, they need to figure out if he has a future with them.

- Marc D


I think the problem is that the organization wants them to make the playoffs this year. They aren't playing for the future. They are playing for right now.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
throw in Lauren Hart and Lou Nolan
- vejim

Done!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
this site sometimes makes me want to punch a baby
- nastyflyergirl


PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
I think we see Homer moved up into a Luukko position, Hexy takes over as GM and hires a new coaching staff and then we see some magic at the draft.
- vejim


A very likely scenario. Especially if they fail or get get embarrassed in the playoffs.

Thanks mochoson for getting Gaudreau in my head. Now i cant wait till this summer.

Maybe they pick up a Girarardi or Pitkanen who knows? one can dream.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
A very likely scenario. Especially if they fail or get get embarrassed in the playoffs.

Thanks mochoson for getting Gaudreau in my head. Now i cant wait till this summer.

Maybe they pick up a Girarardi or Pitkanen who knows? one can dream.

- PhillaBully


It's gonna cost them a 2nd line winger and Geoff Sandersson.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
It's gonna cost them a 2nd line winger and Geoff Sandersson.
- jmatchett383

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
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- aightwebang17


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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
It's gonna cost them a 2nd line winger and Geoff Sandersson.
- jmatchett383


I nominate Kyle Calder.
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