and than he was like"oh ya...their soccer players....they wont do anything"

"but their damn fans might!"
- Fakepartofme

Especially in South America.

Gazdic went toe to toe with Looch last game against Boston. If you think a lack of goons is one of Edmonton's big issues then I won't continue this discussion. There are 100x more important things.
- sanfordnson

I'm pretty sure if you could hand pick 2 guys from the 80's Oilers to play now in their prime and rescue the franchise it would be Semenko and McSorley.

Gazdic went toe to toe with Looch last game against Boston. If you think a lack of goons is one of Edmonton's big issues then I won't continue this discussion. There are 100x more important things.
- sanfordnson

they've been suffering in essentially every single department that equals success for a hockey team.. forget the lack of goaltending, porous defense, suspect offense.. it's the lack of more goons.

call up Macintyre, season saved?

jesus..

Didn't they have McSorley and Symenko to cover that
- tmlfan17

So hey, good win by the Leafs last night. Looking strong.

I'm going to point more to the absence of D and goaltending over goons.
- golfingsince

clearly you didnt follow the beginning of the convo either.

I'm pretty sure if you could hand pick 2 guys from the 80's Oilers to play now in their prime and rescue the franchise it would be Semenko and McSorley.
- golfingsince

Don't forget Mclelland. We'd be in a playoff spot right now.

they've been suffering in essentially every single department that equals success for a hockey team.. forget the lack of goaltending, porous defense, suspect offense.. it's the lack of more goons.

call up Macintyre, season saved?

jesus..
- joel878

and you as well.

Wednesday seems to bring out all the absent minded.....

Don't forget Mclelland. We'd be in a playoff spot right now.
- sanfordnson

In all seriousness, Ekblad is probably going to fall into your teams lap. Then you move one of the forwards in a deal for a goalie and another d.....I think it'll be a rapid turnaround next season....Nurse should also make the team.

and you as well.

Wednesday seems to bring out all the absent minded.....
- IRON.MAIDEN

Ok. Let's have a reasonable dialogue. We have Gazdic, who has shown he can go with a guy like Looch. Despite his presence, the Oilers continue to lose horribly. Why?

Yep. I listed a bunch of HOF multiple Cup winners....as GOONS. Seriously dude.

and he forgot Mclelland. But please keep telling all about the team I grew up watching and personally attended the Cup parades of.
- sanfordnson

It doesn't change the fact they were on the team for a reason.
Ask Yzerman how many liberties were taken against him after Probie left?

clearly you didnt follow the beginning of the convo either.
- IRON.MAIDEN

I get it, there is a place for goons in hockey. However, if league discipline was doled out properly it would eliminate it.

So how about Bozak
14 points in 12 games since coming back from injury..

during that time, JVR has 11 points and Kessel has 17 pts.

That's pretty impressive

my point was that when your team won, it enlisted goons.

and now your team cant win poop. No goons enlisted.

that was my point.
- IRON.MAIDEN

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO LEAFS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO. So whats everyone complaining about today

So how about Bozak
14 points in 12 games since coming back from injury..

during that time, JVR has 11 points and Kessel has 17 pts.

That's pretty impressive
- ILoveLamp

He's really impressed me.

Ok. Let's have a reasonable dialogue. We have Gazdic, who has shown he can go with a guy like Looch. Despite his presence, the Oilers continue to lose horribly. Why?
- sanfordnson

do you seem to forget how we got on this

you suggested the leafs dump our goons asap because the nhl is evolving. i asked how you knew anything about winning. You suggested klowe knew how to win.

to which i said, he won when goons were on the roster.

Ok. Let's have a reasonable dialogue. We have Gazdic, who has shown he can go with a guy like Looch. Despite his presence, the Oilers continue to lose horribly. Why?
- sanfordnson

isn't gadzic new this year?

Gazdic went toe to toe with Looch last game against Boston. If you think a lack of goons is one of Edmonton's big issues then I won't continue this discussion. There are 100x more important things.
- sanfordnson

Isn't Boston in the Leafs division......Plus they have Thornton, Chara, Mcquaid, and numerous other players who all the drop the mitts.
Hence Orr, McLaren

In all seriousness, Ekblad is probably going to fall into your teams lap. Then you move one of the forwards in a deal for a goalie and another d.....I think it'll be a rapid turnaround next season....Nurse should also make the team.
- mykokes

I have no optimism left friend lol. I'm just assuming at this point that nothing will get any better any time soon. that way if it does, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

I get it, there is a place for goons in hockey. However, if league discipline was doled out properly it would eliminate it.
- golfingsince

not with shanahan at the trigger.

Just going to get the germans to develop a robot to do it.

That was a small percentage of the population.

And just so you know.....there still are fackers running around with swords killing eachother.
- Fakepartofme

Looking at Canada's immigration policy give it 50 years.

It doesn't change the fact they were on the team for a reason.
Ask Yzerman how many liberties were taken against him after Probie left?
- tmlfan17

Yzerman played at a high level for years after Probert.

do you seem to forget how we got on this

you suggested the leafs dump our goons asap because the nhl is evolving. i asked how you knew anything about winning. You suggested klowe knew how to win.

to which i said, he won when goons were on the roster.
- IRON.MAIDEN

I backread through the convo, I do agree, we should get rid of our current goon. Never said we shouldn't employ one. Orr is done. Not sure about McLaren. Bodie can do the job. Don't know how tough or how good Staubitz is. Since Clarkson can't seem to score, maybe he can drop the gloves more.

Isn't Boston in the Leafs division......Plus they have Thornton, Chara, Mcquaid, and numerous other players who all the drop the mitts.
Hence Orr, McLaren
- tmlfan17

Gleason? Clarkson? Phaneuf? Bodie? Ashton(cant fight but does anyways)?

soccer has the right idea..

no goons.. martial arts experts instead


- Dozzer

Thats the beauty of FOOTBALL.we can all judo kick someone in the face without fear of retaliation