http://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/players/

very very very wrong

do you guys just make this crap up or do you actually bother with research?
- Dozzer

I count 10 teams that use what I would call an enforcer - designated fighter who fits the role you describe for Orr.

So, yes I do actually bother with research. Sorry that it doesn't support your opinion.

http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/

JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Kuli/Raymond
kuli/Raymond-Holland/bolland-clarkson
Ashton-Mcclement-Bodie/FML

not bad....
I think we way need a better 2nd liner. I put kuli there cause of kadri and lupuls female dog defense.

Someone-Phanuef
Gleason-Gunner
Rielly-Gard

So what I think needs to happen is trade Franson+Ranger+Fraser for a D

Bernie
optimus riem

nooooot a bad team. A few pieces here at there. But our core is strong.

I hope Clarkson can find a way to step up his game. I think he will. Not this year. Rough start, suspensions/injuries/everyone chirping him saying we (frank)ed up signing him (lol at us saying that when the guy truly wants to be a leaf and bring a cup home, Leafs are the king of bad contracts, and its a done deal so everyone should STFU about it now and move forward) but I've seen players struggle like this before and come out strong the year after

I want Mike Brown back.

Sure it is...I'm curious. Do you think it's a good idea for Chara to fight Scott? I would think Scott would take that fight any day.
- Woderwick

I don't think anyone really wants to fight Chara.
The guy stiff arms you and basically nothing you can do after that while eating his otherarms punches. Chara is too big!

I just can't believe George Parros is playing in this league. Same for John Scott.
- Pecafan Fan

there is a serious lack of people getting shot over the phone gifs on the internet

I think the risk is too great for Chara. Arguably one of the best defenders in the league who could get tagged by a guy who made very short work of Thornton the last time they fought, and by someone who is completely expendable and has little to lose. I doubt Chara takes that risk. But I'd like to see it if it happened.
- Woderwick

be a good bout. Chara is a tough hombre.

I don't think anyone really wants to fight Chara.
The guy stiff arms you and basically nothing you can do after that while eating his otherarms punches. Chara is too big!
- Cooshie

I wish I had the Orr uppercut and Chara buckle gif

I count 10 teams that use what I would call an enforcer - designated fighter who fits the role you describe for Orr.

So, yes I do actually bother with research. Sorry that it doesn't support your opinion.

http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/
- Canada Cup

so the link i posted that listed far more than ten wasnt good enough for you?

i'm done with this stupid convo.

I want Mike Brown back.
- CanadianBodmon

Me too.

Here is my take on the raging goon debate.

Under RW the Leafs were abused and pushed around. Teams took way too many liberties in scrums after the whistles, or cheap shots while players were changing.

RC came in, put both Orr and McClaren in the lineup, and preached team toughness. Last season other teams seemed to take this a challenge, and Orr and McClaren took care of business to let them know otherwise.

This season, teams are taking a different approach, and not engaging the tough guys. But guess what, the cheap shots and scrums have also stopped. If you replace Orr or McClaren with the likes of Ashton/Damigo/Bodie...the antics will eventually start again...maybe not right away, but they will.

so the link i posted that listed far more than ten wasnt good enough for you?

i'm done with this stupid convo.
- Dozzer

opinions arguing against facts... thats a recipe for success.

Trade up to get Ekblad maybe?

Either Ekblad or Reinhart are good picks though.
- Aetherial

Only downside of Reinhart, is he's another forward in their sysem where they will have no D or Goalies, and he'll become an "untouchable" on the roster of untouchables

so the link i posted that listed far more than ten wasnt good enough for you?

i'm done with this stupid convo.
- Dozzer

we are on a 6 game winning streak, and so many of you guys still find a way to constantly argue?

ffs

I want Mike Brown back.
- CanadianBodmon

I second this notion

we are on a 6 game winning streak, and so many of you guys still find a way to constantly argue?

ffs
- IRON.MAIDEN

i thinking fighting still has a role in hockey

there are some flower children around who do not

JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Kuli/Raymond
kuli/Raymond-Holland/bolland-clarkson
Ashton-Mcclement-Bodie/FML

not bad....
I think we way need a better 2nd liner. I put kuli there cause of kadri and lupuls female dog defense.

Someone-Phanuef
Gleason-Gunner
Rielly-Gard

So what I think needs to happen is trade Franson+Ranger+Fraser for a D

Bernie
optimus riem

nooooot a bad team. A few pieces here at there. But our core is strong.

I hope Clarkson can find a way to step up his game. I think he will. Not this year. Rough start, suspensions/injuries/everyone chirping him saying we (frank)ed up signing him (lol at us saying that when the guy truly wants to be a leaf and bring a cup home, Leafs are the king of bad contracts, and its a done deal so everyone should STFU about it now and move forward) but I've seen players struggle like this before and come out strong the year after
- CanadianBodmon

I think gunner has played well enough to remain on the top pairing...I still think its too early to give up on franson, unless we are getting a Girardi type back.
personally I'd just like them to pick up a steady d-man that can be paired with Rielly/Gardiner.

I have a question about our road record, I heard them say it was even at .500. 10-10-4 is actually 10 wins 14 losses right?







24 pts in 24 games ok i got it

Trade up to get Ekblad maybe?

Either Ekblad or Reinhart are good picks though.
- Aetherial

Drafting Ekblad changes nothing. A defenseman like that is 5 years from being an impact player. the Oilers dont have the time to continue sit and be Terrible while waiting for a dman to maybe be the player that need now.

Here is my take on the raging goon debate.

Under RW the Leafs were abused and pushed around. Teams took way too many liberties in scrums after the whistles, or cheap shots while players were changing.

RC came in, put both Orr and McClaren in the lineup, and preached team toughness. Last season other teams seemed to take this a challenge, and Orr and McClaren took care of business to let them know otherwise.

This season, teams are taking a different approach, and not engaging the tough guys. But guess what, the cheap shots and scrums have also stopped. If you replace Orr or McClaren with the likes of Ashton/Damigo/Bodie...the antics will eventually start again...maybe not right away, but they will.
- vermie22

true.... but the argument is.... that when the antics start back up, we should send a chara out to fight. thats what he is best suited for, even though he is quite functional at defence, it'd be much better if he was the functional enforcer in the penalty box.

Only downside of Reinhart, is he's another forward in their sysem where they will have no D or Goalies, and he'll become an "untouchable" on the roster of untouchables
- ILoveLamp

I honestly see that pick being bundled up with one of our much talked about "untouchables" to bring in someone real. If they draft Reinhart and use him as part of it, then so be it.

Just because they won't get buttraped in a trade doesn't mean guys are untouchable. So sick of hearing this song. You guys wouldn't have traded Kadri for whatever, but Edmonton should grab their ankles just because people think they should. Its aggravating.

Drafting Ekblad changes nothing. A defenseman like that is 5 years from being an impact player. the Oilers dont have the time to continue sit and be Terrible while waiting for a dman to maybe be the player that need now.
- senstroll

Indeed.

I think gunner has played well enough to remain on the top pairing...I still think its too early to give up on franson, unless we are getting a Girardi type back.
personally I'd just like them to pick up a steady d-man that can be paired with Rielly/Gardiner.
- GardinerExpress

the question you need to ask when it comes to Franson is do you think he is worth 4 million plus?

cause he has arbitration rights this summer.. and based on his point production he will get 4 easy. especially after DP signed for 7.

i thinking fighting still has a role in hockey

there are some flower children around who do not
- Dozzer

Why bother.
Let them go plant some wild orchids and hug a kangaroo.

You cant convince somebody to change their mind when all they do is listen to what the media tells them.

I want Mike Brown back.
- CanadianBodmon

A fourth line of komorov mcclement brown would be half decent

is yours a case of beer too?
- Dozzer

It is part of the equation, yes!

But thats usually my solution for most things.



Maybe I should look into that.