You are obviously not Canadian (or you are from Toronto), we only call each other, Buddy, Guy, and Friend up here (yes, Canada is north of USA).
- FL4MES

Bud for short, when we are being sarcastic

That's no excuse for getting a horrid return for a great player. I will enjoy Dion at 7 per. It was the only way we could keep him and couldn't afford for him to walk. Wont be too bad once the cap goes up. Enjoy Stajan
- dionschenn

*Cough* Clarkson *Cough*

Also, Dion isn't great. That trade didn't turn out for the Flames but it didn't bury them either.

Not to mention Ol' double dion was sleeping around....he had to go

I can't help but think that a top 3 pick in this draft might be worth more than Sven over the long run, so I'd rather see that 2nd taken off of his original proposal....though I could be overvaluing Sven at the moment.
- Saskabush

I would rather have Sven & a 2014 2nd than this years first.....I think.....maybe not

While it's true he's a nice guy and great in the room, he was also overpaid for the first few years when they thought they had a top 6 forward! Now they come to realize he's not a top 6 forward and they're going to extend him and give him more money?? Even Glencross makes less! What's he going to think?
Sorry but I wouldn't give him more than 2yrs and 3.25 max!

I'm good with this, from the leadership and veteran presence he brings. No he may have never brought the offence that was hoped of him, but he is working out very well in the role he is not playing on the team.

Although when it came to this veteran role on the team, I would have preferred to see it in a winger (Stempniak) simply because I think that there are a number of young centermen in the organization that need to be given real minutes to develop and to see just where they are at. When it comes to Monahan, Backlund, Colborne, Reinhart, Granlund, Knight, and to what ever degree Jankowski, these players will need to see minutes. With the theory that Monahan and Backlund will be numbers 1 and 2, these others could see the 3rd line minutes to really assess them. Trying some of them in a 4th line role doesn't really allow to see what they can bring.

It's also currently shaping that one of Sam Reinhart or Sam Bennett could very well be drafted to the Flames (although I still want Ekblad). So there is another young center that may need the minutes.

I'm good with this, from the leadership and veteran presence he brings. No he may have never brought the offence that was hoped of him, but he is working out very well in the role he is not playing on the team.

Although when it came to this veteran role on the team, I would have preferred to see it in a winger (Stempniak) simply because I think that there are a number of young centermen in the organization that need to be given real minutes to develop and to see just where they are at. When it comes to Monahan, Backlund, Colborne, Reinhart, Granlund, Knight, and to what ever degree Jankowski, these players will need to see minutes. With the theory that Monahan and Backlund will be numbers 1 and 2, these others could see the 3rd line minutes to really assess them. Trying some of them in a 4th line role doesn't really allow to see what they can bring.

It's also currently shaping that one of Sam Reinhart or Sam Bennett could very well be drafted to the Flames (although I still want Ekblad). So there is another young center that may need the minutes.
- dal_johnson

Agree, which is why I expect something to give here we have way to many players coming up who can play at the same or above the level of Stajan. Unless they plan to make Colborne a permanent winger, I think someone has to go...and at this point that leaves Backlund on the outside looking in (I'd hate to see him go, especially after his recent play).

While it's true he's a nice guy and great in the room, he was also overpaid for the first few years when they thought they had a top 6 forward! Now they come to realize he's not a top 6 forward and they're going to extend him and give him more money?? Even Glencross makes less! What's he going to think?
Sorry but I wouldn't give him more than 2yrs and 3.25 max!
- trevy

Glencross took a big cut to get a full NMC, something most players of is ilk simply do not get. This is why I don't think he will allow himself to be traded (why would he sacrifice all that money for nothing).

Glencross took a big cut to get a full NMC, something most players of is ilk simply do not get. This is why I don't think he will allow himself to be traded (why would he sacrifice all that money for nothing).
- Saskabush

While I won't argue your point.

there is a possibility he may not want to hang around for a RB.
I think that might be said of a few of the vets.

Not saying that is the case, but maybe

Agree, which is why I expect something to give here we have way to many players coming up who can play at the same or above the level of Stajan. Unless they plan to make Colborne a permanent winger, I think someone has to go...and at this point that leaves Backlund on the outside looking in (I'd hate to see him go, especially after his recent play).
- Saskabush

I would think that Backlund is more safe than the others. And I don't see Colborne as a pernamant winger. Not with the likes of Glencross, Hudler, Baertschi, Gaudreau, Poirier, and Klimchuk in the mix. It means that they may start moving some of the prospects in Reinhart, Granlund or Knight. With how Backlund seems to be playing now, those three, Colborne, and Stajan all seem to be in that number 3 or 4 center spot. And while I have no idea with he will become, have to go with the idea that Jankowski will be in that mix as well. Maybe one of them will be packaged with a UFA to get a larger return at the deadline. Ideally increasing the chance of other first round picks coming back.

Sign and trade. Stajan for Kadri and TML 1st in 2015.

Sign and trade. Stajan for Kadri and TML 1st in 2015.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

They owe us for the Dion trade

*Cough* Clarkson *Cough*

Also, Dion isn't great. That trade didn't turn out for the Flames but it didn't bury them either.

Not to mention Ol' double dion was sleeping around....he had to go
- The-O-G

And the part of the trade we didn't hear about, "and Burke, we are doing you this favour, there will be a time when we will expect you to do a favour for us". . .

And now he is our President, and GM. Does this make Ken King "the Godfather"?

I would think that Backlund is more safe than the others. And I don't see Colborne as a pernamant winger. Not with the likes of Glencross, Hudler, Baertschi, Gaudreau, Poirier, and Klimchuk in the mix. It means that they may start moving some of the prospects in Reinhart, Granlund or Knight. With how Backlund seems to be playing now, those three, Colborne, and Stajan all seem to be in that number 3 or 4 center spot. And while I have no idea with he will become, have to go with the idea that Jankowski will be in that mix as well. Maybe one of them will be packaged with a UFA to get a larger return at the deadline. Ideally increasing the chance of other first round picks coming back.
- dal_johnson

Could see that happening yep ...hopefully burke can work some magic like he did against us

- that's all I got? Oh - and this is for Whipper

I'd say Backlund is safe as well. He seems to be getting better and better every game. His puck possession is unreal. If he could finish more then he'd be an elite player. Guess it's hard to finish when you have guys like Galiardi and D. Jones on your wing, though like in the beginning of the season.

While I won't argue your point.

there is a possibility he may not want to hang around for a RB.
I think that might be said of a few of the vets.

Not saying that is the case, but maybe
- Sam67

Could be...but if I know horse people, which I do, nothing is more important to them than those damn horses

Because Im a betting man, I say its between 3.25 and 3.85...in that ballpark. Given his leadership role and dedication, I think theyll give him a slight bump in pay.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I don't think at any time he was ever worth the 3.5 cap hit he got, why bump him up in pay because he is playing marginally better than the garbage play from his first two years under contract with us. Just because he has a little bit of leadership shouldn't cloud the fact that his numbers in no way warrant this level of pay.

Cammalleri for..

I'm good with this, from the leadership and veteran presence he brings. No he may have never brought the offence that was hoped of him, but he is working out very well in the role he is not playing on the team.

Although when it came to this veteran role on the team, I would have preferred to see it in a winger (Stempniak) simply because I think that there are a number of young centermen in the organization that need to be given real minutes to develop and to see just where they are at. When it comes to Monahan, Backlund, Colborne, Reinhart, Granlund, Knight, and to what ever degree Jankowski, these players will need to see minutes. With the theory that Monahan and Backlund will be numbers 1 and 2, these others could see the 3rd line minutes to really assess them. Trying some of them in a 4th line role doesn't really allow to see what they can bring.

It's also currently shaping that one of Sam Reinhart or Sam Bennett could very well be drafted to the Flames (although I still want Ekblad). So there is another young center that may need the minutes.
- dal_johnson

Bennett is a LW. Also, everyone seems to forget about Arnold who is done his schooling this year. He is a C but I think he has played some wing. And since he's a right shot, I can certainly see him being moved to RW. I think I prefer Colborne at wing also.

Cammalleri for..
- Jurco_28

1st and a mid level prospect probably gets it done today (at 50% cap hit)...Or an NHL ready higher level prospect and a 2nd (or lower depending on the player)

1st and a mid level prospect probably gets it done today (at 50% cap hit)...Or an NHL ready higher level prospect and a 2nd (or lower depending on the player)
- Saskabush

whats the cap hit at 50% ,1.5 mill?

whats the cap hit at 50% ,1.5 mill?
- Jurco_28

I can't remember how it works at the end of the season...His contract is *6 million, so it's 3.0 for the full year. (salary was 7mill, cap is 6mill... oops)

Edit: Looks like we would have to take a contract back from you guys, which we should be willing to do for the right picks/prospects

*Cough* Clarkson *Cough*

Also, Dion isn't great. That trade didn't turn out for the Flames but it didn't bury them either.

Not to mention Ol' double dion was sleeping around....he had to go
- The-O-G

How can it be a bad trade for the Flames? Ian White alone is better than Phaneuf.

whats the cap hit at 50% ,1.5 mill?
- Jurco_28

3 mil....pro-rated for the rest of the season so under 1.5 for the rest of the season.

I can't remember how it works at the end of the season...His contract is 7 million, so it's 3.5 for the full year.

Edit: Looks like we would have to take a contract back from you guys, which we should be willing to do for the right picks/prospects
- Saskabush

ya calgary would. I think Cammalleri can be our new cleary(when Cleary was good).