very important to an owner who gave Ville Leino $40 million
- DoubleDown

27.5 million and he is now worth 4 Billion

No way in hell he gets 6.5 mill from the Blues at least. Maybe 5-5.5 tops. I think Petro's contract is the max per year we will spend.
- cuethenoise

Trust me, I think it's ludicrous as well, but the way GM's handle the free agency period is so varied. I mean, look at the David Clarkson contract. I think that Statsny is much more versatile and more of a top 6 player, so that is part of the reason I can see a really desperate team over paying for his services.

If they move Kane and Buff I assume they'll only be trading for players wearing 33 and 9.

When the Jets and Burmistrov split, there was a beauty strategy in place to have Trouba wear #8. Jersey problem solved...pay $25 to change the name.

Or wait....THAT'S WHY THEY WANT THOSE TWO GONE! Jets just want to sell a new batch of jerseys!

He will be a St. Louis Blue by Feb 8th.
- cuethenoise

And it will cost the Blues next-to-nothing.

He will be a St. Louis Blue by Feb 8th.
- cuethenoise

I hope you are prepared to give up more than you think you will.

27.5 million and he is now worth 4 Billion
- Maximum Signal

fair enough. point is, i don't think the Sabres are pinching pennies...

Flames will announce Matt Stajan extension today
- cmpdave

As well they should.

We don't need picks anymore we need established young scorers or maybe prospects.
- Der Kaiser

Do you think Paajarvi and a 1st from STL gets it done? The kid is going to be a great player once he gets strong enough not to get knocked off the puck. He just has no chance to crack the STL lineup on a regular basis as a winger unless someone else is hurt.

Steen + Schwartz + Berglund + Morrow = No room for MPS on LW.
Oshie + Tarasenko + Stewart + Reaves = No room for MPS on the RW.

Then you've got Jaskin and Rattie who will be looking to stick next season. Good problem to have but unfortunate for a really good player.

I know some Sabres exec paid you off to say that they want to retain Miller but come on Eklund...
They are bottom shelf fodder and having Miller only hurts their chances to rebuild.

Do you think Paajarvi and a 1st from STL gets it done? The kid is going to be a great player once he gets strong enough not to get knocked off the puck. He just has no chance to crack the STL lineup on a regular basis as a winger unless someone else is hurt.

Steen + Schwartz + Berglund + Morrow = No room for MPS on LW.
Oshie + Tarasenko + Stewart + Reaves = No room for MPS on the RW.

Then you've got Jaskin and Rattie who will be looking to stick next season. Good problem to have but unfortunate for a really good player.
- bluenatic411

I'm betting that would do it.

Do you think Paajarvi and a 1st from STL gets it done? The kid is going to be a great player once he gets strong enough not to get knocked off the puck. He just has no chance to crack the STL lineup on a regular basis as a winger unless someone else is hurt.

Steen + Schwartz + Berglund + Morrow = No room for MPS on LW.
Oshie + Tarasenko + Stewart + Reaves = No room for MPS on the RW.

Then you've got Jaskin and Rattie who will be looking to stick next season. Good problem to have but unfortunate for a really good player.
- bluenatic411

Wouldnt Rattie just be your Stewart replacement when he becomes a UFA next season? Think you will resign him for 5m+

Do you think Paajarvi and a 1st from STL gets it done? The kid is going to be a great player once he gets strong enough not to get knocked off the puck. He just has no chance to crack the STL lineup on a regular basis as a winger unless someone else is hurt.

Steen + Schwartz + Berglund + Morrow = No room for MPS on LW.
Oshie + Tarasenko + Stewart + Reaves = No room for MPS on the RW.

Then you've got Jaskin and Rattie who will be looking to stick next season. Good problem to have but unfortunate for a really good player.
- bluenatic411

I'd say that wouldn't even be close to what the sabres would want, I bet it'd look something like berglund, halak and a 1st. Miller is a top 5 goalie in the league, you gotta pay, and heavily, for on of those.

Chicago would be out of their mind to move big pieces to take a chance on Evander Kane. All they have to do is stand pat and they'll be deep in the playoffs again. The Versteeg trade was a robbery, why would they bother messing with the team's chemistry in a big way with E. Kane?
- TheJerseyDevil1

There is nobody the Jets would want, that the Hawks would part with to make any trade for E. Kane feasible cap wise. The Hawks are at the cap, so $5.0+ would have to go back to Winnepeg in any trade that brings E. Kane to Chicago. Baring injuries, at most the Hawks will add a depth bottom 6F or veteran botom pair D-man.

E. Kane to Chicago?

I'd say that wouldn't even be close to what the sabres would want, I bet it'd look something like berglund, halak and a 1st. Miller is a top 5 goalie in the league, you gotta pay, and heavily, for on of those.
- Girouxsalem90

Goalies don't bring that kind of return, especially not for a pure rental. Maybe if the 1st was conditioned on re-signing Miller.

I know some Sabres exec paid you off to say that they want to retain Miller but come on Eklund...
They are bottom shelf fodder and having Miller only hurts their chances to rebuild.
- Mr_Smokey

remember, you were bottom shelf fodder two years ago....it doesn't take much to rebuild to be competitive these days

remember, you were bottom shelf fodder two years ago....it doesn't take much to rebuild to be competitive these days
- JoeSabre

What do you mean "were ... two years ago?"

Goalies don't bring that kind of return, especially not for a pure rental. Maybe if the 1st was conditioned on re-signing Miller.
- Der Kaiser

They bring a very large return, which is why star goalies are seldom traded. What would you expect as a return for hank, quick, price, or rask? But I think making the first rounder conditional would get it done, paajarvi won't though.

We don't need picks anymore we need established young scorers or maybe prospects.
- Der Kaiser

A rebuilding team should take the best value in return regardless of what form that value comes in. Besides, if you were to get picks who knows what you could turn those picks in to down the road whether by drafting or packaging picks for players. Thus why you take the best value

A rebuilding team should take the best value in return regardless of what form that value comes in. Besides, if you were to get picks who knows what you could turn those picks in to down the road whether by drafting or packaging picks for players. Thus why you take the best value
- uf1910

Are you aware of the Sabres current portfolio of picks? And are you familiar with the concept of diminishing returns?

On Martin Luther King's day..
- Symba007

Who?

A rebuilding team should take the best value in return regardless of what form that value comes in. Besides, if you were to get picks who knows what you could turn those picks in to down the road whether by drafting or packaging picks for players. Thus why you take the best value
- uf1910

A blues first round pick is almost like an early 2nd round pick. The Sabres don't need more picks they need young roster players with upside. Trading Miller to the Blues could be the push that makes them Cup favorites., Them winning the cup gives Buffalo the 30th overall pick. Not exactly a great return for Miller.

To get the most value I could see a sign and trade with the Blues.

Do you think Paajarvi and a 1st from STL gets it done? The kid is going to be a great player once he gets strong enough not to get knocked off the puck. He just has no chance to crack the STL lineup on a regular basis as a winger unless someone else is hurt.

Steen + Schwartz + Berglund + Morrow = No room for MPS on LW.
Oshie + Tarasenko + Stewart + Reaves = No room for MPS on the RW.

Then you've got Jaskin and Rattie who will be looking to stick next season. Good problem to have but unfortunate for a really good player.
- bluenatic411

I'd rather have Rattie or Allen.

I'm betting that would do it.
- Der Kaiser

Because of placement of St. Louis firsts , It will take two first . St. Louis first might as well be a 2nd

Because of placement of St. Louis firsts , It will take two first . St. Louis first might as well be a 2nd
- Maximum Signal

Agreed see my previous post!

Are you aware of the Sabres current portfolio of picks? And are you familiar with the concept of diminishing returns?
- Der Kaiser

Yes I am well aware. I am also aware of the Bolts "rebuild" in 2012 where we traded for multiple 1st and 2nd rounders (Downie, Kubina, Dominic Moore) only to turn around and come draft time package some of those picks for Lindback. Granted the Lindback deal hasn't turned out as Yzerman hoped, but as I said before...If you want to rebuild, you take the best value in return, period.

If you limit your trade deadline partners to whichever team has a piece or 2 that fills a rebuilding need AND has a desire to trade for Miller the chances of the Sabres getting back full value for Miller are slimmed greatly. However, maybe the Sabres acquire some extra picks (on top of what you already have) and it is even more ammunition to package together to go get the young player(s) you're looking for who may or may not be "available" at the deadline and whose team(s) may or may not have interest in Miller.