Amazing how no one allowed mez to get back into his groove after his injuries but no one has given up on Gus.

Mezzy is a top 4 on this team when given the chance to play. This crap where we play him one game and expect him to be up to speed after all he went through is absurd.
- Flyersgod

I'd like to see how we do with him and Gus in the lineup simultaneously, maybe giving Kimmo a break for a game or two. Besides for the odd play, I think Kimmo's looked pretty weak over the past few games.

So Schenn with 92 career points and a career -25 over Mezzy who has pretty consistent when healthy, outside of Tampa, for his career?

Schenn 92 points -25
Mezzy 214 points +36


Obviously they don't have the same style of play. But when 100% healthy, Mezzy is the better Dman.
- Flyersgod

It's easy to forget, but he was a good player before the injuries

London backup Jake Patterson plans to wear Kevlar socks.

http://www.torontosun.com...od-against-saginaw-spirit

I didn't know but apparently in the OHL even in a regular season game you can have a 3rd goalie come down to dress if an injury happens like last night.
- ob18

Hopefully Stollie will start wearing them when he comes back. Has Karlsson been wearing Kevlar since he came back from his cut?

Well then Homer needs to stand up and say something. When the Flyers drafted Morin, it was assumed the blue line was going to be built from the ground up. We all knew this would take years.
- PhillySportsGuy

We can still do this, but a few solid players are also needed for the present, morin won't play here until Giroux is almost 30

Edit Morin won't make a difference here until then actually

We can still do this, but a few solid players are also needed for the present, morin won't play here until Giroux is almost 30
- puckhead17

Morin will play here before G is 30, but he probably won't get very good until G is at least 30.

I think they signed him because they felt he was too good to pass up. I was never a huge fan of Vinny. I always thought St Louis was the really special player on Tampa.
- PhillySportsGuy

With 400 goals and 500 assists, Vinny is no slouch either. But I agree, Homer once again saw the bright, shiny object and had to have it.

Like some here, I liked the signing, just not the years. He was a cheaper, more productive replacement for Briere, or so it was said. Not knowing whether BSchenn was going to take the necessary step forward, we needed able secondary scoring. To date, finding Vinny a comfortable spot in the lineup and keeping him healthy are our two major concerns.

That said, I think once Vinny finally finds his niche and settles in, he will prove to be a more than useful asset coming down the stretch and (hopefully) into the playoffs.

I'd like to see how we do with him and Gus in the lineup simultaneously, maybe giving Kimmo a break for a game or two. Besides for the odd play, I think Kimmo's looked pretty weak over the past few games.
- JAKEw1234

It wouldn't kill them to get some other guys time on D.

Schenn's been crap for me. Grossman I wouldn't take out of the lineup at gun point. Timonen still has it.. most of the time..

Coburn/Mez
Kimmo/Grossman
Gus/Schenn

So Schenn with 92 career points and a career -25 over Mezzy who has pretty consistent when healthy, outside of Tampa, for his career?

Schenn 92 points -25
Mezzy 214 points +36


Obviously they don't have the same style of play. But when 100% healthy, Mezzy is the better Dman.
- Flyersgod

I just think people are getting carried away with Mez. What he's doing is not sustainable. I just don't think he's turned the corner and become a top 4 dman again. In all honesty, he was a fringe top 4 damn.

Schenn has had a bad season. Streit isn't my favorite person, but I'd say you have to keep him on the 2nd pair for now.

I don't know what you're arguing with me over. Im not advocating sitting Mez. I think he should continue to play on the 3rd pair. Keep him as far away from Tavares tonight as possible. Put him in scoring opportunities.

I just don't think the Flyers should be discussing an extension with his agent right now. I don't think they should be in discussions until after they have looked exhausted other options.

Morin will play here before G is 30, but he probably won't get very good until G is at least 30.
- JAKEw1234

Yes I edited my post

We can still do this, but a few solid players are also needed for the present, morin won't play here until Giroux is almost 30

Edit Morin won't make a difference here until then actually
- puckhead17

Giroux will be 30 and the other young players will be in their mid-late 20s. Hockey players don't die at age 30. Giroux may not be a point per game player at that point, but he will still be producing. Schenn, Couturier and Laughton will be in their primes.

With 400 goals and 500 assists, Vinny is no slouch either. But I agree, Homer once again saw the bright, shiny object and had to have it.

Like some here, I liked the signing, just not the years. He was a cheaper, more productive replacement for Briere, or so it was said. Not knowing whether BSchenn was going to take the necessary step forward, we needed able secondary scoring. To date, finding Vinny a comfortable spot in the lineup and keeping him healthy are our two major concerns.

That said, I think once Vinny finally finds his niche and settles in, he will prove to be a more than useful asset coming down the stretch and (hopefully) into the playoffs.
- 77rams

The problem is the Flyers sign players who play a specific position, or style, than expect the same results when they force them to play another position or a different style.

Give Vinny the 2nd line and let Giroux have the 1st line.

Then find players to play around him on the team. Instead of using vinny as a plug. They can do that later on in his contract.

I just think people are getting carried away with Mez. What he's doing is not sustainable. I just don't think he's turned the corner and become a top 4 dman again. In all honesty, he was a fringe top 4 damn.

Schenn has had a bad season. Streit isn't my favorite person, but I'd say you have to keep him on the 2nd pair for now.

I don't know what you're arguing with me over. Im not advocating sitting Mez. I think he should continue to play on the 3rd pair. Keep him as far away from Tavares tonight as possible. Put him in scoring opportunities.

I just don't think the Flyers should be discussing an extension with his agent right now. I don't think they should be in discussions until after they have looked exhausted other options.
- PhillySportsGuy

If he continues his play until seasons end would you choose he or Streit for next season? If you had to choose?

I just think people are getting carried away with Mez. What he's doing is not sustainable. I just don't think he's turned the corner and become a top 4 dman again. In all honesty, he was a fringe top 4 damn.

Schenn has had a bad season. Streit isn't my favorite person, but I'd say you have to keep him on the 2nd pair for now.

I don't know what you're arguing with me over. Im not advocating sitting Mez. I think he should continue to play on the 3rd pair. Keep him as far away from Tavares tonight as possible. Put him in scoring opportunities.

I just don't think the Flyers should be discussing an extension with his agent right now. I don't think they should be in discussions until after they have looked exhausted other options.
- PhillySportsGuy

Merely arguing over how Mez is viewed.

With the way our defense has been built.. signing mez would be the least of my worries.

I don't trust Homer to build a decent D core. I see them not signing Mez... and than signing another 35+ past his prime Dman.

With 400 goals and 500 assists, Vinny is no slouch either. But I agree, Homer once again saw the bright, shiny object and had to have it.

Like some here, I liked the signing, just not the years. He was a cheaper, more productive replacement for Briere, or so it was said. Not knowing whether BSchenn was going to take the necessary step forward, we needed able secondary scoring. To date, finding Vinny a comfortable spot in the lineup and keeping him healthy are our two major concerns.

That said, I think once Vinny finally finds his niche and settles in, he will prove to be a more than useful asset coming down the stretch and (hopefully) into the playoffs.
- 77rams

You either have to like the deal or not. He wash;t going to sign for any less, so its more of a take it or leave it deal.

I didn't like it because I wanted Schenn to play center. He always looked better at center. I was hoping the Flyers would add scoring by acquiring a winger. It's much easier to move a winger around the lines than a guy who has played center his entire career.

Merely arguing over how Mez is viewed.

With the way our defense has been built.. signing mez would be the least of my worries.

I don't trust Homer to build a decent D core. I see them not signing Mez... and than signing another 35+ past his prime Dman.
- Flyersgod

If he does that again, he's truly legally blind

If he does that again, he's truly legally blind
- puckhead17

The dude almost died riding a bike. I've already lost all hope in him.

If he continues his play until seasons end would you choose he or Streit for next season? If you had to choose?
- puckhead17

Mez. But I don't think he will continue this play.

If there is no tendon or nerve damage he should be alright, but scary injury either way with how much blood there was, and how quickly.

Makes you wonder, about having your kids in hockey.
- flyer_nutter

Young kids don't keep their skates as sharp as guys this age and honestly, if i had a kid who played, they would wear the protective attire

certainly the easiest of the bunch
- PhillySportsGuy

Peterborough is terrible on defense as well.

Peterborough is terrible on defense as well.
- ob18

Is Derek Mathers still on that team or did he take his talents to the Phantoms?

You either have to like the deal or not. He wash;t going to sign for any less, so its more of a take it or leave it deal.

I didn't like it because I wanted Schenn to play center. He always looked better at center. I was hoping the Flyers would add scoring by acquiring a winger. It's much easier to move a winger around the lines than a guy who has played center his entire career.
- PhillySportsGuy

I didn't like the deal because of the years. If Vinny would've accepted three, I would've been OK with it.

Same with Streit, whose signing I hated, both years and dollars. I would've never gone more than two years with Streit and for no more than 3 mil per. Would that have gotten me either player? No.

But I wasn't banking on BSchenn to take a great leap forward this year so some type of move had to be made for a second line center and secondary scoring. Same with a puck moving d-man. Short of moving future assets once again (ugh) where were we going to find a player capable of filling that hole? Gus? Too risky.

So Homer placed himself in the position of having no choice but to make those two moves if he wanted to keep his future and keep the team above water. He made the best out of the corner he painted himself into by picking up two experienced players who could step in and fill two needs without giving up anything of value.

Is Derek Mathers still on that team or did he take his talents to the Phantoms?
- PhillySportsGuy

Phantoms.

I didn't like either deal because of the years. If Vinny would've accepted three, I would've been OK with it.

Same with Streit, whose signing I hated, both years and dollars. I would've never gone more than two years with Streit and for no more than 3 mil per. Would that have gotten me either player? No.

But I wasn't banking on BSchenn to take a great leap forward this year so some type of move had to be made for a second line center and secondary scoring. Same with a puck moving d-man. Short of moving future assets once again (ugh) where were we going to find a player capable of filling that hole? Gus? Too risky.

So Homer placed himself in the position of having no choice but to make those two moves if he wanted to keep his future and give the team above water. He made the best out of the corner he painted himself into by picking up two experienced players who could step in and fill two needs without giving up anything of value.
- 77rams

I was hoping to see Schenn play at center. His best performances were at center. He seemed to struggle more on the wing. I thought it was unfair to say he regressed when Lavi kept forcing Briere on his wing. Briere had trouble playing with everybody last season.

I didn't like the Streit deal, but it did fill a need at least. I still would have gone with a safer, less expensive choice like Scuderi. People thought Streits offensive ability would help the transition game. That hasn't been the case. What he has given the team is a guy who can get shots to the net. That's something this team desperately struggles with. I'm just not sure that is worth $5M for 4 years.

The ironic part is that Scuderi has been injured for half the season and Streit hasn't missed a game. (Knocking on wood now). Streit will also help the PP if Kimmo decides to hang 'em up after this season.

Let's go Flyers! Time to beat up on the Islanders.

No offense, but you guys have no idea how long it will be before Morin comes in and makes an impact on the team. The biggest factor is who will mentor him. If that gets sorted, the kid could be up and playing solid minutes next season. If Maata can do it at 19, I don't see why Morin can't pull it off.