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sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
The Sabres will win a cup before 2020 and Zemgus will be wearing an A when it happens. You reid it here first ladies and germs.
Simple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
Man you guys should see teh sick burn the sens fan got me with.

He said "I got the joke, you're a Sabres fan"

- ImThatGuy

He must be Guy LeDeuche
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
Lucic or Zemgus? Playing in the USHL, that's a bit unfair to ask. He's played in three leagues in three years.

If you mean Lucic, I beg to differ.

- TheSabresTaco


Seeing as hes made it in the NHL he should have better numbers in the USHL
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
Seeing as hes not put up 60 at any level I ll side with him not getting 60. Trust me I want to be wrong, but unfortunetly this falls in the 10% of things I get right
- hubie


Sure I may be optimistic..but his ability to adapt and play is way ahead of his scoring ability. Once that catches up, with another couple years in the league, I'll put money on him being able to at the very least eclipse 50.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
He sees 2nd line minutes. Because he was demoted.
- TheSabresTaco

His career TOI is higher than Thomas Vanek's

He's a top 6 player that scores like a "3rd liner" that's my point.

There is no set point totals you have to achieve to be a top 6 player
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 17 @ 1:56 PM ET
Sure I may be optimistic..but his ability to adapt and play is way ahead of his scoring ability. Once that catches up, with another couple years in the league, I'll put money on him being able to at the very least eclipse 50.
- TheSabresTaco


Lets day eh gets 60 points in 2 years is this because

A) his game has risen and he has made players around him bettter
or
B) We have put better players around him and casuse of them his number are better?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 17 @ 1:58 PM ET
Lets day eh gets 60 points in 2 years is this because

A) his game has risen and he has made players around him bettter
or
B) We have put better players around him and casuse of them his number are better?

- hubie


I'm of the side that he makes players around him better in the sense that they work harder and typically working hard is more often rewarded than not working as hard..in a hockey game.

Of course that's just an opinion and we'll have to derive an opinion once he has fully developed.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
Lets day eh gets 60 points in 2 years is this because

A) his game has risen and he has made players around him bettter
or
B) We have put better players around him and casuse of them his number are better?

- hubie


Also, option B better (frank)ing happen.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
His career TOI is higher than Thomas Vanek's

He's a top 6 player that scores like a "3rd liner" that's my point.

There is no set point totals you have to achieve to be a top 6 player

- sbroads24


True statement taken in the right context, but that's a different discussion.

I think in a few years, DBrown will be a Zemgus light. As of right now, and I'm not sure if you meant for the time being or his projected full development, he's DBrown light. Sorry to get way too detailed here, just keeping up a discussion.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Also, option B better (frank)ing happen.
- TheSabresTaco


It will as soon as we figure out how to clone MFE.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
True statement taken in the right context, but that's a different discussion.

I think in a few years, DBrown will be a Zemgus light. As of right now, and I'm not sure if you meant for the time being or his projected full development, he's DBrown light. Sorry to get way too detailed here, just keeping up a discussion.

- TheSabresTaco

I think we're debating the semantics of the overall point instead of just the overall point which we agree on
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:21 PM ET

Not new that you need a franchise Center in order to be a very good team. At leaset our Captain is a Center, we got that 1/2 right. Cody will be the C next year once Ott is traded.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 17 @ 2:22 PM ET
Not new that you need a franchise Center in order to be a very good team. At leaset our Captain is a Center, we got that 1/2 right. Cody will be the C next year once Ott is traded.
- RynoBull


McCormick?
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
McCormick?
- hubie


if he plays his cards right


recipe for a cup contender

Draft Franchise Center

Fill in the gaps with non-Andrew Peters/Ville Leino hockey players

Win Cup
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
if he plays his cards right


recipe for a cup contender

Draft Franchise Center

Fill in the gaps with non-Andrew Peters/Ville Leino hockey players

Win Cup

- RynoBull


Tall people's
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
McCormick?
- hubie

Injured too often for my liking.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
His career TOI is higher than Thomas Vanek's

He's a top 6 player that scores like a "3rd liner" that's my point.

There is no set point totals you have to achieve to be a top 6 player

- sbroads24


If he plays like he plays today he will have a roll on the 2nd line
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
Tall people's
- sbroads24


Naturally. only 6' ers who work hard and give alot of effort


oh wait.....only players who score and play a solid two way game
buffalo 1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 17 @ 2:43 PM ET
people are really gonna pissed around here when all he is a 3rd liner.
- Mentalorgasm5

Yea right
buffalo 1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 17 @ 2:45 PM ET
The Sabres will win a cup before 2020 and Zemgus will be wearing an A when it happens. You reid it here first ladies and germs.
- sambarugh

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 2:51 PM ET
If he plays like he plays today he will have a roll on the 2nd line
- RynoBull

Agreed. He will be a guy that will play in all key situations.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:54 PM ET
Naturally. only 6' ers who work hard and give alot of effort


oh wait.....only players who score and play a solid two way game

- RynoBull


So small guys who give effort and tall guys who dont care is what we are aiming for?
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
So small guys who give effort and tall guys who dont care is what we are aiming for?
- ImThatGuy


I care very little if they are effort or blue collar guys. I care about if they can score and have talent.

And I really dont care how tall they are. Some people think its very important.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
I care very little if they are effort or blue collar guys. I care about if they can score and have talent.

And I really dont care how tall they are. Some people think its very important.

- RynoBull


I care very little about your opinion. God you're an idiot.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 17 @ 3:11 PM ET
At work another 20 minutes and this thread is dying faster than Filipino hooker bleeding out on my kitchen floor.

Time to make a future roster!

2015-16

Moulson/FA/Trade - 2014 1st - 2014 1st/FA/Trade/Armia/Eichel/McDavid
Girgensons - Hodgson - FA (Cally?)/Ennis
Foligno - Grigorenko - Ennis/Larsson
Ellis - Konopka - Flynn

Myers - Erhoff/Pysyk
Zadorov - Ristoleinen
McNabb - Pysyk/Ruhwedel
Weber

Miller/Enroth/UFA/Trade
Enroth/Hackett/Makorov/Lieuwen


Enjoy.
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