I dont think being an NFL player makes you exempt from being a scumbag. Hes just a high profile scumbag. Rape, assault, robbery happens every second. To not expect guys from troubled/poor/misused backgrounds to not behave in these ways isn't surprising.
- SiloCity

Plus, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

I dont think being an NFL player makes you exempt from being a scumbag. Hes just a high profile scumbag. Rape, assault, robbery happens every second. To not expect guys from troubled/poor/misused backgrounds to not behave in these ways isn't surprising.
- SiloCity

I wasn't implying at all that it makes them exempt from being a 'scumbag'.
Quite the contrary really.

Plus, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
- theblueandgold

Very true. The fact that he even got in a situation where he would be arrested for rape is sad though......especially since hes under investigation for three separate instances....something went wrong somewhere.

I wasn't implying at all that it makes them exempt from being a 'scumbag'.
Quite the contrary really.
- BuffaloHardHat

I was just replying to the topic

I was just replying to the topic
- SiloCity

I boycott the NFL from time to time in my household because of incidents like these that never seem to stop happening with NFL players.
Last year I would not allow not one television in my home to be tuned into the Superbowl.
I never watched it last year and if anyone wanted to in my home, they needed to go out to do so.
I'm a principle kind of man. And I hold true to them!

Sabres cant trade Ehrhoff. They could be facing a $10M cap penalty if he doesnt finish his contract on another team. Cant take that risk.
- theblueandgold

If the right deal is out there . They will move him and risk the penalties later. Because of Erhoff's style of play .I think he will play the majority of his contract . Point is Myers is not being moved unless deal is out of this world. Ladd is good but not out of this world. Not even sure about his leadership skills at this point.

Plus, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
- theblueandgold

It seems nowadays if your any any kind of Celebrity - you are guilty till proven innocent . That by no means is correct.

It seems nowadays if your any any kind of Celebrity
- Maximum Signal

See that's the problem right there in a nutshell.
They aren't celebrities!
They are sports athletes and need to recognize the difference between the two.

See that's the problem right there in a nutshell.
They aren't celebrities!
They are sports athletes and need to recognize the difference between the two.
- BuffaloHardHat

Anyone of any notoriety then. All these 24 hour news channels need content.

Anyone of any notoriety then. All these 24 hour news channels need content.
- Maximum Signal

Agreed Max.

See that's the problem right there in a nutshell.
They aren't celebrities!
They are sports athletes and need to recognize the difference between the two.
- BuffaloHardHat

- Der Kaiser

Agreed

If you were to acquire Ladd.. unrealistic.. AND Callahan.. unrealistic.. THEN, I would love the makeup of our team.. unrealistic.
- JAT27

Unrealistic?


If guys like Gretzky, Mark Messier & Joe Thorton can be traded... I'm pretty sure so can Andrew Ladd.


And as far as signing Callahan... Top UFA's gor for about $7-8 million (Drury, Briere, Gomez, B. Richards, Parise, Sutter, etc) On July 1st.

While Callahan might not not be worth $8 mill, Im pretty sure he'd like to be. And considering this teams owner tried to make the Vanek the leagues highest paid player... Expect them to throw big $$$ at somebody.

Unrealistic?

- SuperCat

You said it Sir , but your fantasy moves are entertaining and give me great laughter

Thank you.

Just not sure about Ladd anymore . Is he the leader everyone is talking about . Did he lead his team right into getting a coach fired . Myers just seems to be getting more dominant every game . Trade Erhoff and a 2nd for Ladd if you want him . I am anxious to see how good Myers can get.
- Maximum Signal

C'mon man. How can you possibly pin all that on one guy. This isn't the NBA, where one player can play 3/4 of the game a carry an entire team.

Who has been the leader of the Sabres the past few years? Ryan Miller? Vanek & Pominville maybe? Is is really all on them that Lindy got canned? They were scoring consistently when wearing the blue & gold, and they are having great years now?

Maybe Lindys message had just gone stale on a team who GM was to cautious to infuse his roster with fresh blood? Combine that with a lack of supplemental talent, and what could they really do?


How about this year? Miller is the face of the franchise & the city. He's playing lights out... Is it his fault Rolston was canned? Or was it maybe the roster is void of the nessiccary talent needed to see better results?

Agreed
- BuffaloHardHat

Redbreast single pot Irish whiskey. Oh, that's nice.

If the right deal is out there . They will move him and risk the penalties later. Because of Erhoff's style of play .I think he will play the majority of his contract . Point is Myers is not being moved unless deal is out of this world. Ladd is good but not out of this world. Not even sure about his leadership skills at this point.
- Maximum Signal

We're not talking a $250K penalty, a $1M penalty, or a $3M penalty.... $10M... as in this year it would be 1/6th of the cap. Or in 5 years will be 1/8th of the cap. Teams would have to severely overpay to even get Ehrhoff away from us. They wouldnt be willing to pay the price. You cant take that risk. Ehrhoff is going to either play out this contract as a Sabre or retire a Sabre.

You said it Sir , but your fantasy moves are entertaining and give me great laughter

Thank you.

- Maximum Signal

Your pretty much clueless about hockey in general from what I've seen, so I'm really not surprised at your ignorance.

If you don't think Ladd is capable of being traded than you're just an idiot, and nobody can really help you.

Sorry for ya chump!

Unrealistic?


If guys like Gretzky, Mark Messier & Joe Thorton can be traded... I'm pretty sure so can Andrew Ladd.


And as far as signing Callahan... Top UFA's gor for about $7-8 million (Drury, Briere, Gomez, B. Richards, Parise, Sutter, etc) On July 1st.

While Callahan might not not be worth $8 mill, Im pretty sure he'd like to be. And considering this teams owner tried to make the Vanek the leagues highest paid player... Expect them to throw big $$$ at somebody.
- SuperCat

Unfortunately, that has to be done!
We have to sign a top free agent to open doors for others to sign!!
We have to overpay for now.So be it!!

We're not talking a $250K penalty, a $1M penalty, or a $3M penalty.... $10M... as in this year it would be 1/6th of the cap. Or in 5 years will be 1/8th of the cap. Teams would have to severely overpay to even get Ehrhoff away from us. They wouldnt be willing to pay the price. You cant take that risk. Ehrhoff is going to either play out this contract as a Sabre or retire a Sabre.
- theblueandgold

Never say never there. Where there's a will there's a way.

Your pretty much clueless about hockey in general from what I've seen so I'm really not surprised at your ignorance.

If you don't think Ladd is capable of being traded than you're just an idiot, and nobody can really help you.
- SuperCat

Not clueless at all , just realistic sir. Murray as much as said Myer's is not being traded. Unless the deal is unreal . Would not do the deal on for one anymore let alone everything you want to throw in . Hence the other posters in here asking if you were serious.

C'mon man. How can you possibly pin all that on one guy. This isn't the NBA, where one player can play 3/4 of the game a carry an entire team.

Who has been the leader of the Sabres the past few years? Ryan Miller? Vanek & Pominville maybe? Is is really all on them that Lindy got canned? They were scoring consistently when wearing the blue & gold, and they are having great years now?

Maybe Lindys message had just gone stale on a team who GM was to cautious to infuse his roster with fresh blood? Combine that with a lack of supplemental talent, and what could they really do?


How about this year? Miller is the face of the franchise & the city. He's playing lights out... Is it his fault Rolston was canned? Or was it maybe the roster is void of the nessiccary talent needed to see better results?
- SuperCat

Will Andrew Ladd "lead" them to score 2x as much as they do now?
Leadership is over rated. It's what teams with no talent talk about.

Unfortunately, that has to be done!
We have to sign a top free agent to open doors for others to sign!!
We have to overpay for now.So be it!!
- Sabresfan88

Heck...

Gonna have to just to get to the cap floor if Miller, Moulson, & Ott are shopped. They might buy out Leino & Stafford as well.

Not clueless at all , just realistic sir.
- Maximum Signal

LoL... Coming from the guy who think Myers is still the second coming of Chris Pronger???

My vote is the former.

Heck...

Gonna have to just to get to the cap floor if Miller, Moulson, & Ott are shopped. They might buy out Leino & Stafford as well.
- SuperCat

I sure as hell hope so!!!!
I really think they will resign Miller, and possibly Moulson as well.
Ott could be traded.