What if Miller agrees to extension? I would love to be able to keep Miller but as another pointed out he's a wasting away here, as I might add as Hasek did. Not that I should compare the two but similar...end result, midwest cups to true Sabres???(still wish Perreault got traded to the Oilers in 86)

Hasek gets his cup in Detroit. I would be happy if Miller gets his cup in St. Louis.

If it's not Tarasenko fine, but he's the ideal target for us. Maybe we add more, I dunno gets complicated w Salary and all can't just add Moulson, Stafford etc.
Although I think Ott would add a nice tough component to Blues run, especially come playoff time

Regardless good luck on landing Miller. You can bet Western NY will become Blues fans and boost up Blues TV ratings to number 1 during playoffs

But I would say no Tarasenko, no Miller. Keep your bottom 1st rd draft picks, we've got enough coming
- doctordizzle

So who else is going to be out there bidding for his services? I guess you'd rather just lose him for nothing in the summer?

What about Tarasenko? Maybe him and a pick for Miller
- doctordizzle

Not a chance
If they're going for the cup, why would they trade someone in their top9 who's contributing on a nightly basis
It just wouldn't make sense

I agree here. If ALL St Louis fans are saying that Taresenko is going no where...then you would think you would start to believe it. Your not going to give up a guy for UFA that may/may not being you a cup. I would be willing to give up more to bring Miller in IF we sign him to an extension, but only if. Otherwise I would expect a "Jaybo" type of deal, unless we trade a roster player because of salary...my vote would be Stewart.

Don't think that Buffalo is trading from a position of strength here. Miller is a UFA and there are only so many teams that can even make the deal for Miller. Armstrong is a very patient man and wont make the deal unless it makes sense for the Blues. Besides, as people have said in this thread, the Blues dont have to make a deal. They have 2 competent goalies (even after last night), so they are not being forced into anything.
- mobluesfan

"Competent" is the key word there
Your current Goalies have shown that they aren't good enough to get u past Chicago & LA...
I hear a lot of StL fans saying they're content w the goaltending there...

But OBVIOUSLY management isn't

Otherwise, at least one of them would've been extended by now and we wouldn't be constantly hearing all this chatter about Miller going there

That said...

My fellow Sabres fans are crazy if we think you're giving up roster players for Miller
If StL is trying to go for a cup this year, that just wouldn't make sense

I think a couple good prospects, and a conditional 1st if Miller resigns sounds about right

That type of trade works for BOTH teams

"Competent" is the key word there
Your current Goalies have shown that they aren't good enough to get u past Chicago & LA...
I hear a lot of StL fans saying they're content w the goaltending there...

But OBVIOUSLY management isn't

Otherwise, at least one of them would've been extended by now and we wouldn't be constantly hearing all this chatter about Miller going there

That said...

My fellow Sabres fans are crazy if we think you're giving up roster players for Miller
If StL is trying to go for a cup this year, that just wouldn't make sense

I think a couple good prospects, and a conditional 1st if Miller resigns sounds about right

That type of trade works for BOTH teams
- jdfitz77

Fine no roster players - 2014 first , 2015 first , 2015 second . . They have no prospects that are that promising that they are willing to trade . We will draft our own . I trust Kevin Devine and Tim Murray's eye for talent more anyways. Their picks will be low round picks . equivalent to 2nd's and 3rd's.

Ok, no Tarasenko...was worth a shot right?

Ty Rattie, Halak, and 2015 1st for Miller and a 3rd

Could get crazy and try bringing a third team like Oilers in where Yakapov comes to Sabre and Miller to Blues but wont go there more than already have

I think there may be other teams also looking at Miller, namely Isles...Caps
Isles can't afford to lose Vanek especially since we might get their 2015 1st pick, which could be pretty high wo Vanek and a Miller. New stadium, new city, USA hockey makes sense for them too, especially with Isles playing better recently

Fine no roster players - 2014 first , 2015 first , 2015 second . . They have no prospects that are that promising that they are willing to trade . We will draft our own . I trust Kevin Devine and Tim Murray's eye for talent more anyways. Their picks will be low round picks . equivalent to 2nd's and 3rd's.
- Maximum Signal

2 firsts and a second for Miller.

2 firsts and a second for Miller.
- golfingsince

Toronto gave 2 ones and a two for Kessel, so why not?

Toronto gave 2 ones and a two for Kessel, so why not?
- jerryl1964

For a young RFA 30 goal scorer with upside. Not for 4 months of a UFA goalie that isn't necessary.

2 firsts and a second for Miller.
- golfingsince

The picks will be in the 25 -30 range of each round . Not at the top of a round like a leafs pick. Do they want a shot at the cup or not.

The picks will be in the 25 -30 range of each round . Not at the top of a round like a leafs pick. Do they want a shot at the cup or not.
- Maximum Signal

They have a shot at a cup. You're making it sound like if they get Miller it's automatic they get over the top. There are 4 elite teams in the west, and another couple capable of pulling off an upset.

They have a shot at a cup. You're making it sound like if they get Miller it's automatic they get over the top. There are 4 elite teams in the west, and another couple capable of pulling off an upset.
- golfingsince

I think they have a better shot of winning without Miller. He plays his best when there is no pressure. (Like this year) We have to play him up so someone will bite and take him off our hands. That is how I see it.

I think they have a better shot of winning without Miller. He plays his best when there is no pressure. (Like this year) We have to play him up so someone will bite and take him off our hands. That is how I see it.
- jerryl1964

Miller also has the type of personality that could change the team chemistry. It's a very risky move for STL to acquire him. The 2015 draft projects to be similar to the 2003 draft so any first round pick is golden and even a 2nd is solid. Aside from that, the returns on goalie's over the years has not been stellar. That's why I chuckle when people suggest Gillis got raped on the Schneider trade. A top 10 pick is a very good return.

They have a shot at a cup. You're making it sound like if they get Miller it's automatic they get over the top. There are 4 elite teams in the west, and another couple capable of pulling off an upset.
- golfingsince

You know the other teams in the west will make moves to get stronger . If the Blues don't they will be left without a shot. When you have a chance for the cup , you go for it. You don't know when the next chance comes.

Miller also has the type of personality that could change the team chemistry. It's a very risky move for STL to acquire him. The 2015 draft projects to be similar to the 2003 draft so any first round pick is golden and even a 2nd is solid. Aside from that, the returns on goalie's over the years has not been stellar. That's why I chuckle when people suggest Gillis got raped on the Schneider trade. A top 10 pick is a very good return.
- golfingsince

Schneider ain't Miller . And these are not top 10 picks . Big drop off in talent when you get this late in a round . His value starts going up now as it appears other teams are starting to a realize a star goalie might make the difference for them.

Schneider ain't Miller . And these are not top 10 picks . Big drop off in talent when you get this late in a round . His value starts going up now as it appears other teams are starting to a realize a star goalie might make the difference for them.
- Maximum Signal

I could see the Sabres getting a late first round pick in the 2014 draft for Miller. Even as a rental, like Max said, there is a drop off in the talent level. It could be worth taking a chance.

Schneider ain't Miller . And these are not top 10 picks . Big drop off in talent when you get this late in a round . His value starts going up now as it appears other teams are starting to a realize a star goalie might make the difference for them.
- Maximum Signal

No, Schneider is a young goalie signed for more years. The drop off in talent in 2003 had Corey Perry at 28th who is arguably better than anyone selected in the top 10.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NHL_Entry_Draft

Miller's play also deteriorated after the olympics in 2010, surely you remember that. What was the return on Patrick Roy? Sure he wanted out, but it's not like this situation is much different.

I could see the Sabres getting a late first round pick in the 2014 draft for Miller. Even as a rental, like Max said, there is a drop off in the talent level. It could be worth taking a chance.
- jerryl1964

I could see him getting a late 1st as well, maybe even a mid-tiered prospect along with it. However, 2 1sts and a 2nd with one of those 1st round picks coming in a very deep draft is absurd.

No, Schneider is a young goalie signed for more years. The drop off in talent in 2003 had Corey Perry at 28th who is arguably better than anyone selected in the top 10.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NHL_Entry_Draft

Miller's play also deteriorated after the olympics in 2010, surely you remember that. What was the return on Patrick Roy? Sure he wanted out, but it's not like this situation is much different.
- golfingsince

Not as a good a goalie . Age is not near the factor with goalies as positional players either . Lots of Goalies have played at a top level into their late 30's . Lindy played Miller too much as well that year. Nolan said he is going to split playing time more going into the Olympics ( we have to get back to securing that bottom in the league). A hot goalie can win the cup . I shutter to think how good the Blues could be with Miller in net.

Not as a good a goalie . Age is not near the factor with goalies as positional players either . Lots of Goalies have played at a top level into their late 30's . Lindy played Miller too much as well that year. Nolan said he is going to split playing time more going into the Olympics ( we have to get back to securing that bottom in the league). A hot goalie can win the cup . I shutter to think how good the Blues could be with Miller in net.
- Maximum Signal

So 2 1sts and a 2nd for a rental. Gotcha. Best of luck with that.

So 2 1sts and a 2nd for a rental. Gotcha. Best of luck with that.
- golfingsince

Again late 1st's , not early first big difference. Not a big cost for a serious shot at a cup.

Again late 1st's , not early first big difference. Not a big cost for a serious shot at a cup.
- Maximum Signal

Miller hasn't won a playoff series since 2007. It's a huge overpayment that guarantees them absolutely nothing. There is nothing wrong with Halak, except that he has been injured.

Miller hasn't won a playoff series since 2007. It's a huge overpayment that guarantees them absolutely nothing. There is nothing wrong with Halak, except that he has been injured.
- golfingsince

Whatever , you have a Miller hate. Quite obvious . If Saint Louis wants a shot at a cup . It is the move to make. No other real weakness on that team . Like I said you know the other teams in the west will upgrade at their weakest position.
Fine 1st 2014 second in 2014 , 2nd in 2015 that becomes first if he resigns. They will not trade any young assets that anyone would desire according to their fans in here.

Whatever , you have a Miller hate. Quite obvious . If Saint Louis wants a shot at a cup . It is the move to make. No other real weakness on that team . Like I said you know the other teams in the west will upgrade at their weakest position.
Fine 1st 2014 second in 2014 , 2nd in 2015 that becomes first if he resigns.
- Maximum Signal

Halak is not a weakness. He's carried a team to the conference finals in the past. It's not a hate for Miller, it's a reality.

Halak is not a weakness. He's carried a team to the conference finals in the past. It's not a hate for Miller, it's a reality.
- golfingsince

It is a Toronto type reality . Did you watch the game against LA the other night? Miller at least gets them to overtime. You really need to watch more Buffalo games . The system in Saint Louis makes Miller look even better. Miller has carried seriously flawed teams . A team like Saint Louis instantly becomes Stanley cup favorites with Miller between the pipes.

It is a Toronto type reality . Did you watch the game against LA the other night? Miller at least gets them to overtime. You really need to watch more Buffalo games . The system in Saint Louis makes Miller look even better. Miller has carried seriously flawed teams . A team like Saint Louis instantly becomes Stanley cup favorites with Miller between the pipes.
- Maximum Signal

Good one. It has nothing to do with the Leafs, I don't even cheer for them. You know who else has carried seriously flawed teams? Halak.