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ClarkHitsBell
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.23.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
He never was a leaf to begin with so you could be right
- robin_steele264


My thoughts exactly.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
*cough* Alex_Oil *cough* Numerous others *cough*
- MaximumBone

dude irks the fuk outta me
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
we'd take average goaltender stats...but any goalie playing behind our defense is gonna have a bad time.

andrew macdonald on his own turns the puck over every other shift and usually causes a minimum of a goal a game against...and then we get to matt carkner...

- Isles_since_6

I'll take McDonald off your hands if he's THAT big of a burden
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
dude irks the fuk outta me
- hugefemale dog77

Yeah, but he's alright once you get past his often outrageous opinions.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Jan 15 @ 6:34 PM ET
Just read the blog and I have to disagree with you that Scrivens is too good to be a backup. In fact, that's exactly what he's been, a good backup. That's not to say that he can't be a starter, or he's not ready to start, it just means that no one really knows yet. The one thing we can say is that he's better than Dubnyk so that's a positive. I just hope that Edmonton doesn't offer him an extension too soon. Give it the rest of the season and see how he fares. If he's not up to the task they can easily cut bait and go after a UFA. If it turns out he is what they hope he is, they've probably already got a leg up on resigning him because he's a local guy. I don't think by waiting there's a lot of risk in losing him.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 6:34 PM ET
i love hockeybuzz.

no grey area.

either we ALL as a fan base thought dubnyk was the greatest and gonna lead us to multiple titles and we wouldnt trade him for quick
or
we all thought he was the worst ever, and he shoulda been ditched long ago and was never good for anything.


no in between.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 6:35 PM ET
Yeah, but he's alright once you get past his often outrageous opinions.
- MaximumBone

it's true. ive had a few reasonable convos/ but it's like he just harps on the same tired sh1t over and over.
ClarkHitsBell
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.23.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:36 PM ET
i love hockeybuzz.

no grey area.

either we ALL as a fan base thought dubnyk was the greatest and gonna lead us to multiple titles and we wouldnt trade him for quick
or
we all thought he was the worst ever, and he shoulda been ditched long ago and was never good for anything.


no in between.

- hugefemale dog77


What's grey?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 15 @ 6:36 PM ET
Just read the blog and I have to disagree with you that Scrivens is too good to be a backup. In fact, that's exactly what he's been, a good backup. That's not to say that he can't be a starter, or he's not ready to start, it just means that no one really knows yet. The one thing we can say is that he's better than Dubnyk so that's a positive. I just hope that Edmonton doesn't offer him an extension too soon. Give it the rest of the season and see how he fares. If he's not up to the task they can easily cut bait and go after a UFA. If it turns out he is what they hope he is, they've probably already got a leg up on resigning him because he's a local guy. I don't think by waiting there's a lot of risk in losing him.
- Jeffmt

We''ll wait and see. The way I see it, he's at least a solid 1B option with some potential for upside.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
we'd take average goaltender stats...but any goalie playing behind our defense is gonna have a bad time.

andrew macdonald on his own turns the puck over every other shift and usually causes a minimum of a goal a game against...and then we get to matt carkner...

- Isles_since_6




Yeah, it's no coincidence that the Islanders and Oilers both need goalies yet both have 2 of the worst defensemen groups in the entire league.
Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
I hear all of you who point out that Scrivens MAY not be a starter. I am not blind to the fact that this has been Scrivens' best season ever and he may regress.

That said, he was cheap and a better gamble than Dubnyk. He cost nearly nothing of actual value and the Oil get to test drive him for a bit before he will be offered a contract.

If he fails in Edmonton then the club can still try to address their issue via Free Agency, which it seems was always going to be the case.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
What's grey?
- ClarkHitsBell

ull have to leave hockeybuzz to see it.
it's not here

no way you can see some positives of a player while conceding the negatives. it's just not possible...

"what?? You think dubnyk had a reasonable contract and coulda been the guy going forward due to his solid stats last year!!??"
"so what you're trying to say is he's better than pekka rinne!!?? you oiler fans. such homers!!"
nagasadow
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.30.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
What's grey?
- ClarkHitsBell

go read that 50 shades book to find out. Or is that a little above your comprehension level?
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:40 PM ET
Just caught this now but the title of this blog isn`t accurate.
Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
Just caught this now but the title of this blog isn`t accurate.
- The-O-G


All ears
ClarkHitsBell
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.23.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:45 PM ET
go read that 50 shades book to find out. Or is that a little above your comprehension level?
- nagasadow


"Me speak good unglish"....bet you've been waiting ages to unload that doozy of an insult. Congratulations.
NEEDSMORHORCOFF
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.10.2012

Jan 15 @ 6:47 PM ET
"Me speak good unglish"....bet you've been waiting ages to unload that doozy of an insult. Congratulations.
- ClarkHitsBell


Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jan 15 @ 6:47 PM ET
and next year well have a Russian,line 😃 yak yak and slep
- nagasadow

Slepyshev and Yakimov will most likely not even play in North America let alone the NHL
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
Great moves. Always liked Scrivens and buddy is high if he thinks 1.85M a year is a "hefty price tag". What is this, 1982?
NEEDSMORHORCOFF
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.10.2012

Jan 15 @ 6:49 PM ET
I hear all of you who point out that Scrivens MAY not be a starter. I am not blind to the fact that this has been Scrivens' best season ever and he may regress.

That said, he was cheap and a better gamble than Dubnyk. He cost nearly nothing of actual value and the Oil get to test drive him for a bit before he will be offered a contract.

If he fails in Edmonton then the club can still try to address their issue via Free Agency, which it seems was always going to be the case.

- Matt_Henderson


agree 100%. Like I said, it's just a hunch but I think the big picture Mac-T has in mind is to extend Scrivens as a backup if he plays well and hunt for a proven starter in the meantime. If he plays out of his mind, well that works too. Either way, Dubnyk is gone <3
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 15 @ 6:49 PM ET
ull have to leave hockeybuzz to see it.
it's not here

no way you can see some positives of a player while conceding the negatives. it's just not possible...

"what?? You think dubnyk had a reasonable contract and coulda been the guy going forward due to his solid stats last year!!??"
"so what you're trying to say is he's better than pekka rinne!!?? you oiler fans. such homers!!"

- hugefemale dog77

Agreed no grey area
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Jan 15 @ 6:52 PM ET
Scrivens numbers will get worse playing in Edmonton.

Dubynk's numbers will improve playing in Nashville.

A goalie does rely on the team to play defense in front of him. And their numbers reflect that.

To call Dub a terrible goalie, after what the Oilers have done this year is pretty lame Matt.

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jan 15 @ 6:52 PM ET
Slepyshev and Yakimov will most likely not even play in North America let alone the NHL
- Ihatebrianburke

Bo has been confirmed to have been coming over, but Slappy's future is still in question.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Jan 15 @ 6:55 PM ET
I hear all of you who point out that Scrivens MAY not be a starter. I am not blind to the fact that this has been Scrivens' best season ever and he may regress.

That said, he was cheap and a better gamble than Dubnyk. He cost nearly nothing of actual value and the Oil get to test drive him for a bit before he will be offered a contract.

If he fails in Edmonton then the club can still try to address their issue via Free Agency, which it seems was always going to be the case.

- Matt_Henderson


How do you judge failure on a team that struggles defensively?

Look at Toronto, Reimer and Bernier are their best players this year, but their numbers look horrible.
Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:56 PM ET
Scrivens numbers will get worse playing in Edmonton.

Dubynk's numbers will improve playing in Nashville.

A goalie does rely on the team to play defense in front of him. And their numbers reflect that.

To call Dub a terrible goalie, after what the Oilers have done this year is pretty lame Matt.

- moondawg


Ive seen almost every game he's played in the NHL. I assure you, he is a terrible goalie.
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