yes

the few games I've been to this year I noticed the lack of two way work ethic amongst the top two lines, and lack of talent on the backend were the biggest obstacles to the teams success. These will likely be menial transactions but could start a trend towards bringing better competitors to the organization.

If I'm the Oilers I keep Gagner too. I mentioned somewhere else that he reminds me of a young Patrice Bergeron. Similar skill set and talents just needs to be taught by the right coaching staff how to put it all together.
- Cape Breton Bruins

I'd of course be stoked if Gags ended up even half of the defensive player that Bergeron is, but I too am inclined to keep him.

For a guy coming off a broken jaw, his scoring isn't that far off last year (in fact its better at ES), and its noteworthy that he's playing among the toughest matchups not only on the team, but in the league.

Defense is the next step, I'm sure.
- MaximumBone

I wonder if you guys would have any interest in a Nick Grossmann type. Flyers have too many stay at home D men and need to get faster on the blue line. I cant imagine the cost would be all too high.

Scrivens .931sv%

Dubnyk .894sv%

*Checks Math*
- Matt_Henderson

Are you really looking at the stats Scrivens played for LA this year one of the best defensive teams in the nhl.

Are you really looking at the stats Scrivens played for LA this year one of the best defensive teams in the nhl.
- jake24242

yeah its definitely not apples to apples. Ive got like 6 wins and 2 SO with the Kings this year for (frank) sakes.

I'd of course be stoked if Gags ended up even half of the defensive player that Bergeron is, but I too am inclined to keep him.

For a guy coming off a broken jaw, his scoring isn't that far off last year (in fact its better at ES), and its noteworthy that he's playing among the toughest matchups not only on the team, but in the league.
- Morris

When the team finally puts it all together he will be a valuable member of that squad IMO.

Are you really looking at the stats Scrivens played for LA this year one of the best defensive teams in the nhl.
- jake24242

who cares??

no one thinks we got a bonafide superstar goalie here, but the moves make sense for a bunch of reasons.

what else matters?

I can't get over how many people are pissed about this trade... WTF is wrong with oiler fans? o_O

Are you really looking at the stats Scrivens played for LA this year one of the best defensive teams in the nhl.
- jake24242

Jonathan Quick has a .914 behind the same defense. What do you extrapolate from that? Based on your line of thinking then surely on the Oilers Quick would be ECHL caliber if he could only muster a .914 with the Kings.

Scriv wasn't good enough to be a leaf that should tell you something.

I don't get how 1.85mil is such a horrid contract to deal with going forward. Maybe not ideal, but it's not going to be crippling.

I like the moves and am shocked that we really gave up nothing to get a couple of guys that could help us out.
- Lahey

because Hendricks sucks?

Jonathan Quick has a .914 behind the same defense. What do you extrapolate from that? Based on your line of thinking then surely on the Oilers Quick would be ECHL caliber if he could only muster a .914 with the Kings.
- Matt_Henderson

owned.

I can't get over how many people are pissed about this trade... WTF is wrong with oiler fans? o_O
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

it doesnt seem to be too many oiler fans as far as i can tell.

it's more just trolls trying to make these sensible moves out to be some sort of blunder. which they arent.

Scriv wasn't good enough to be a leaf that should tell you something.
- jake24242

Hasek wasn't good enough to be a Blackhawk, what's your point?

because Hendricks sucks?
- Blackstrom2

gotta say; if he can provide a little bit of needed functional toughness and add to our depth on the bottom line, it doesnt hurt. neither does 1.85 much.
and all for the price of a goalie who was playing badly and gone soon anyway

Scriv wasn't good enough to be a leaf that should tell you something.
- jake24242

Neither was Rask....

gotta say; if he can provide a little bit of needed functional toughness and add to our depth on the bottom line, it doesnt hurt. neither does 1.85 much.
and all for the price of a goalie who was playing badly and gone soon anyway
- hugefemale dog77

I like the two moves, collectively. But Hendricks was clearly a contract dump on the Preds side. It's not a contract that is going to cripple a team in the future, but it's still a bad contract. Hendricks isn't entirely useless either, but still.

I'd say worth it for you guys to upgrade your position in net. Dubnyk has just been horrible this year.

it doesnt seem to be too many oiler fans as far as i can tell.

it's more just trolls trying to make these sensible moves out to be some sort of blunder. which they arent.
- hugefemale dog77

Dunno. I've seen people on the Edmonton Sun, Oilers message board, hfboards, and here that seem to think it's a terrible deal. Total (frank)ing head scratcher. It's a GREAT move. People have even been crying about giving up the 3rd rounder, as if the oilers aren't going to recover it at the trade deadline or something. A Kings blogger on a site which shall remain nameless even went so far as to suggest the Kings fleeced the oilers on the Scrivens deal.

Total BS. It's a great move and if you can't see that....well.... You're dumb.

gotta say; if he can provide a little bit of needed functional toughness and add to our depth on the bottom line, it doesnt hurt. neither does 1.85 much.
and all for the price of a goalie who was playing badly and gone soon anyway
- hugefemale dog77

If he cant fit in our bottom 6 we can bury him in OKC without too much trouble.

Here's what I don't get about this trade: this was pretty clearly a salary dump for Nashville, but isn't the team taking salary in a salary dump supposed to receive something for their trouble? Not only did Edmonton fail to get anything extra out of Nashville, they had to retain some of Dubnyk's salary. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Before I get some Oilers fans jumping down my throat, I don't hate the trade. It's not like they took an awful salary in return that's going to handcuff them for years to come, I just don't really see what makes this an attractive trade for Edmonton.

I like the two moves, collectively. But Hendricks was clearly a contract dump on the Preds side. It's not a contract that is going to cripple a team in the future, but it's still a bad contract. Hendricks isn't entirely useless either, but still.

I'd say worth it for you guys to upgrade your position in net. Dubnyk has just been horrible this year.
- Blackstrom2

agreed on all counts.

especially the collectively part

I find myself thinking back to the close of the regular season last year and a debate i was having with oiler fans on HB about the goalie situation in Edm. A rumor then was Ryan Miller to Edm.(though prob. never realistic) and i was shocked by the praise most fans bestowed on DD, even to the point that he was being compared to and Better than Miller.

I'm not trying to be a D#%K but how did you guys not see this coming last year, especially with an unproven D infront of him?

Here's what I don't get about this trade: this was pretty clearly a salary dump for Nashville, but isn't the team taking salary in a salary dump supposed to receive something for their trouble? Not only did Edmonton fail to get anything extra out of Nashville, they had to retain some of Dubnyk's salary. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Before I get some Oilers fans jumping down my throat, I don't hate the trade. It's not like they took an awful salary in return that's going to handcuff them for years to come, I just don't really see what makes this an attractive trade for Edmonton.
- Jeffmt

The oilers got someone to take Dubnyk off their hands so they could bring in Scrivens (who is local). It's a gamble in that they hope Scrivens plays well enough to extend him for a backup position, and Dubnyk's cap doesn't mean jack to them anyways since his contract is up at the end of the season. In the process, they pick up a physical utility 4th line centerman who they can easily bury in the minors if things don't work out.

It's win win.

edit to add: The 3rd rounder they gave up for scrivens will almost certainly be coming back at the deadline. The oilers will be moving bodies for sure.

Here's what I don't get about this trade: this was pretty clearly a salary dump for Nashville, but isn't the team taking salary in a salary dump supposed to receive something for their trouble? Not only did Edmonton fail to get anything extra out of Nashville, they had to retain some of Dubnyk's salary. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Before I get some Oilers fans jumping down my throat, I don't hate the trade. It's not like they took an awful salary in return that's going to handcuff them for years to come, I just don't really see what makes this an attractive trade for Edmonton.
- Jeffmt

I think Edmonton legitimately values what Hendricks brings and they needed Dubnyk gone quick to make room for Scrivens. If the Scrivens deal didn't also happen at the same time then I think your questions are totally legit, but in context the Oil saw a chance to upgrade in net AND add size/toughness.

i dont think there's any doubt that mact is trying to help us marginally in the short term as well as the long term.
i think he was happy to try and make our tending a little stronger and add a body to try and squeak out a few more wins right now.

these moves are a good thing no matter how you look at it.

Scrivens .931sv%

Dubnyk .894sv%

*Checks Math*
- Matt_Henderson

*watches video*

Nope sorry. Even I could post great numbers behind the Kings D.