He did have okay numbers in WSH one year. So there's that. Not convinced the 4th line is going to be any better with him on it or centering it though. Maybe if we rotated gazdic out once in a while.
- Jack-artist

Next year: Gazdic, Pitlick, Joensuu, Hendricks (and for my money Smyth) are the 4th line wingers.

With any luck, Hendricks/Gordon is a more permanent 4C fixture and we find a good 3C

we might've though.

and we got hendricks who possess some of the qualities we need

and we got rid of dubnyk who was gone anyway

and we didnt give up much

best case scrivens tears it up and we have more options in the offseason. worst case, he doesnt and we go after the number 1 that we probably were gonna anyway


why is this concept so hard to grasp??
- hugefemale dog77

People like to overthink and overanalyze things?

Not quite on the same level. This season, yes, but historically he's been fully capable of playing 3rd line minutes and not get absolutely killed in the scoring chances department. Keep in mind, Nashville hasn't been much better than the Oilers this season.
- MaximumBone

Fair enough. I will say that Hendricks has better hands and better skating.

It's just another guy that forces the Oilers fan base to decide whether they're going to buy into the possession maps really well onto goals and wins thing or not.

That being said, I think there's potential for him to have some good chemistry here.

backup goalie for 3rd rounder....sure, why not.
Scrivens is no better then Dub, you will find this out very quickly.
- Cooshie

He will do a bit better than Dub, but it's mostly a sideways move. Not that it matters, might as well take a longshot for the cost of a 3rd rounder. I don't think the oilers have improved their scouting enough to get anything significant out of round 3.

I expect Dubnyk to do much better in Nashville - his issue is a lack of mobility, but in Nashville the defense is good enough that he will only really have to make sure he is square to the first shot, he won't have to make many speedy saves for rebounds or cross-ice feeds.

Wait...You used his career numbers (that I also quoted in the article) which are still better than Dubnyk's and are claiming a victory?
- Matt_Henderson

Of course I am using career numbers...why would you only use 19 games of one season to try and prove your point...just makes you look silly.

It's not about victory, it's about the fact that Edmonton didn't do anything today to better themselves.
Going from Dubnyk to Scrivens is a lateral move.

P.S. I wouldn't exactly be bragging about the fact that Scrivens has a .07% better career save percentage over Dubnyk. His inflated % due to 19 games behind a great defense will drop below Dubnyk's numbers within a matter of a few games.

Next year: Gazdic, Pitlick, Joensuu, Hendricks (and for my money Smyth) are the 4th line wingers.

With any luck, Hendricks/Gordon is a more permanent 4C fixture and we find a good 3C
- Morris

I'd be fine with signing Smyth for another year for 4th line duties. Personally I would have liked the oilers to take a flyer on Konopka for the 4th line, but Henricks will have to be the guy I guess. Better than landers potential at this point.

Nothing really spectacular happened here. But maybe a couple new bodies will help. They need to get rid of a few people who have are there and are used to losing.

Having said that they need to improve more than this, or they'll just be bringing in more people and teaching them how to lose.

But, these trades were better than nothing.

He will do a bit better than Dub, but it's mostly a sideways move. Not that it matters, might as well take a longshot for the cost of a 3rd rounder. I don't think the oilers have improved their scouting enough to get anything significant out of round 3.

I expect Dubnyk to do much better in Nashville - his issue is a lack of mobility, but in Nashville the defense is good enough that he will only really have to make sure he is square to the first shot, he won't have to make many speedy saves for rebounds or cross-ice feeds.
- TommyDeVito

This remains to be seen...I am not so sure he will do any better and he could do worst. We could be back here in a couple weeks to Oiler fans chanting for the return of Dubnyk!

Nothing really spectacular happened here. But maybe a couple new bodies will help. They need to get rid of a few people who have are there and are used to losing.

Having said that they need to improve more than this, or they'll just be bringing in more people and teaching them how to lose.

But, these trades were better than nothing.
- beingaflamesfan

Defense is the next step, I'm sure.

Nothing really spectacular happened here. But maybe a couple new bodies will help. They need to get rid of a few people who have are there and are used to losing.

Having said that they need to improve more than this, or they'll just be bringing in more people and teaching them how to lose.

But, these trades were better than nothing.
- beingaflamesfan

I agree 100% with the bolded areas....

Next year: Gazdic, Pitlick, Joensuu, Hendricks (and for my money Smyth) are the 4th line wingers.

With any luck, Hendricks/Gordon is a more permanent 4C fixture and we find a good 3C
- Morris

I'm fine with Gordon at 3C. Likely need a better 3LW and 2C.

Defense is the next step, I'm sure.
- MaximumBone

Yea, you would have to think so. If their is anything we have learned about MacT so far is that he isn't afraid to make trades. It's probably just harder than he thought to get the return he wants, so far anyways.

Yea, you would have to think so. If their is anything we have learned about MacT so far is that he isn't afraid to make trades. It's probably just harder than he thought to get the return he wants, so far anyways.
- beingaflamesfan

As fans, we prob underestimate how challenging it is too in a salary cap world.

Nashville goalies are tall.

That's all I got.

I'm fine with Gordon at 3C. Likely need a better 3LW and 2C.
- Jack-artist

agreed

As fans, we prob underestimate how challenging it is too in a salary cap world.
- deks1

Yup, that's probably true haha. Could be exciting times for both Alberta teams coming up.

Nashville goalies are tall.

That's all I got.
- DarthYoda

For a 6' 4" goalie I was always astounded at how often Duby was beaten over his shoulder....

I don't think I'd be too quick to assume that Scrivens is that much better of a goalie than Dubnyk. Scrivens wasn't good for the Leafs and only improved after being put behind a pretty good defensive team in LA.

It'll be interesting to see how he does behind a less than mediocre defensive team once the pressures of winning games start mounting against him. Personally I think he'll be about as good as Dubnyk was.

I agree 100% with the bolded areas....
- Cooshie

No one disagrees.

Does anyone think we're done making moves in this rebuild?

I don't think I'd be too quick to assume that Scrivens is that much better of a goalie than Dubnyk. Scrivens wasn't good for the Leafs and only improved after being put behind a pretty good defensive team in LA.

It'll be interesting to see how he does behind a less than mediocre defensive team once the pressures of winning games start mounting against him. Personally I think he'll be about as good as Dubnyk was.
- MnGump

Obviously just a hunch here, but I think the idea is to extend scrivens for a backup position if he plays well and sign or trade for a #1 tendy at a later date.

Nothing really spectacular happened here. But maybe a couple new bodies will help. They need to get rid of a few people who have are there and are used to losing.

Having said that they need to improve more than this, or they'll just be bringing in more people and teaching them how to lose.

But, these trades were better than nothing.
- beingaflamesfan

yes

the few games I've been to this year I noticed the lack of two way work ethic amongst the top two lines, and lack of talent on the backend were the biggest obstacles to the teams success. These will likely be menial transactions but could start a trend towards bringing better competitors to the organization.

If I'm the Oilers I keep Gagner too. I mentioned somewhere else that he reminds me of a young Patrice Bergeron. Similar skill set and talents just needs to be taught by the right coaching staff how to put it all together.

I'm fine with Gordon at 3C. Likely need a better 3LW and 2C.
- Jack-artist

yeah improved defense and bottom 6 wingers I'm not that beat up about Gordon on 3C.

This week, I'm big on Ruskies. Sign Kulemin and trade for Anisimov I say

No one disagrees.

Does anyone think we're done making moves in this rebuild?
- Morris

Agreed. I think these moves needed to be made. And as most trades go, its a wait and see.

Obviously just a hunch here, but I think the idea is to extend scrivens for a backup position if he plays well and sign or trade for a #1 tendy at a later date.
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

Makes sense. Obviously at this point Scrivens value higher than Dubnyks regardless.

yeah improved defense and bottom 6 wingers I'm not that beat up about Gordon on 3C.

This week, I'm big on Ruskies. Sign Kulemin and trade for Anisimov I say
- Morris

and next year well have a Russian,line 😃 yak yak and slep