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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
Biggest loser on here....
- The-O-G


Systemfool and Bieksa#3 are worse. by far. But Gluck is pretty bad.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
I don't think the Leafs take that....
- The-O-G


No ,maybe not, and I'm not suggesting Gagner is better or worse...but we're not looking at either team hitting a home run with this deal either.
My point is that Kadri is not that much better than Gags and vice versa. Something tells me that statement is offensive to Leafs fans.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
No ,maybe not, and I'm not suggesting Gagner is better or worse...but we're not looking at either team hitting a home run with this deal either.
My point is that Kadri is not that much better than Gags and vice versa. Something tells me that statement is offensive to Leafs fans.

- Jeropotato


Hahaha probably.....

I think Kadri has a higher ceiling...if the leafs move him they would want someone with a little more potential that Gagner...not that he doesn't have any, just saying.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
Hahaha probably.....

I think Kadri has a higher ceiling...if the leafs move him they would want someone with a little more potential that Gagner...not that he doesn't have any, just saying.

- The-O-G


So what's the throw in? a 3rd?
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
So what's the throw in? a 3rd?
- Jeropotato


I'd say maybe a 2nd, or a good defence prospect.

Somewhere in there...not totally sure.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
Hahaha probably.....

I think Kadri has a higher ceiling...if the leafs move him they would want someone with a little more potential that Gagner...not that he doesn't have any, just saying.

- The-O-G

I think Kadri was overrated from day 1.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:24 PM ET
I think Kadri was overrated from day 1.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

I'll agree. Also overhyped. But thats Toronto for ya...
Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
I'd say maybe a 2nd, or a good defence prospect.

Somewhere in there...not totally sure.

- The-O-G


It's kind of irrelevant as I don't really think Kadri is the guy we need. I would rather try and swing a deal for Anisimov, Zajac, Dubinski, ...or on the low end Ruutu.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
I think Kadri was overrated from day 1.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Ya maybe....but if you watch him play he's pretty slick. I think he's gonna be a really good player in 2-3 years.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
It's kind of irrelevant as I don't really think Kadri is the guy we need. I would rather try and swing a deal for Anisimov, Zajac, Dubinski, ...or on the low end Ruutu.
- Jeropotato


yeah you're right....that's what the Oilers should do IMO as well.
Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
yeah you're right....that's what the Oilers should do IMO as well.
- The-O-G


I wonder what the cost for Dubinsky will be?
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
I really think Hemsky would flourish with the Pens... He like Gags - need change of scenery... Gags I can see either being swapped out with Kadri or shipped to New Jersey or Nashville...
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
I wonder what the cost for Dubinsky will be?
- Jeropotato



Nothing we couldnt afford...
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
Ya maybe....but if you watch him play he's pretty slick. I think he's gonna be a really good player in 2-3 years.
- The-O-G

Only if he can dump the attitude and learn to backcheck.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:33 PM ET
It's kind of irrelevant as I don't really think Kadri is the guy we need. I would rather try and swing a deal for Anisimov, Zajac, Dubinski, ...or on the low end Ruutu.
- Jeropotato

I like those options far more.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:35 PM ET
It's kind of irrelevant as I don't really think Kadri is the guy we need. I would rather try and swing a deal for Anisimov, Zajac, Dubinski, ...or on the low end Ruutu.
- Jeropotato


Zajac has a scary contract
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:36 PM ET
I don't think it's out of the question to think that some combination of Gagner, Hemsky, a prospect, and a pick would fetch players like Smith-Pelley, Sbisa, and/or Maroon from Anaheim.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:37 PM ET
Zajac has a scary contract
- Reveen


Agreed but he's at a good age and would have much better wingers here.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:38 PM ET
Zajac has a scary contract
- Reveen

Pricey, but it can be managed.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:39 PM ET
I don't think it's out of the question to think that some combination of Gagner, Hemsky, a prospect, and a pick would fetch players like Smith-Pelley, Sbisa, and/or Maroon from Anaheim.
- ystoil

True but if I was Anaheim I would be hesitant to do much tinkering at all.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:40 PM ET
True but if I was Anaheim I would be hesitant to do much tinkering at all.
- Jeropotato

They will be quiet this year.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 16 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don't think it's out of the question to think that some combination of Gagner, Hemsky, a prospect, and a pick would fetch players like Smith-Pelley, Sbisa, and/or Maroon from Anaheim.
- ystoil


Anaheim looking to upgrade their D. Doubt they move those guys unless its in a cap deal type thing or in a move for D. Word is they are going hard for Girardi. Some of those guys would likely go the other way.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:40 PM ET
Pricey, but it can be managed.
- Jeropotato


It's his injury history and his statistical decline that worry me as well.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:43 PM ET
It's his injury history and his statistical decline that worry me as well.
- Reveen


Stat line could probably improve with our wingers, injuries will probably continue as an Oiler....just the way she goes.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
Sorry Morris I don't think that gonna be good at all. Greening on the top line? He cant find a fit in Ottawa. He is big but doesn't use his size at all and is terrible on the boards. And if I were going after a guy for 2C from Columbus it would be Duby over Anisimov.
- Iggysbff

Greening is one of those guys that's played up and down the lineup in Ottawa and maybe he just needs a change of scenery. He's certainly big and fast, which could be a homerun compliment to those skill guys, or it could be trash.

As far as Anisimov goes, I too think Dubinsky is better, but would cost more and is more untouchable in Columbus. I think he's a more easily acquired option, and with a management that doesn't seem keen to make huge moves just yet, easy is key.

In general though, we haven't had the same coach/system/roster long enough for true chemistry to form among a lot of these guys. I think working on getting a set of 9 guys of varied skillsets and seeing what works is what's necessary. Obviously Hall, Perron, Yakupov are much more talented than Greening but some times there's no accounting for when players click.
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