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Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jan 16 @ 8:39 PM ET
What's the verdict on Versteeg? Is he worth the 2.2M that we're paying him?
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Jan 16 @ 8:40 PM ET
Team has 2 or less in all 5 starts since he returned
- philco28


That would be Crawford's fault too along with global warming and famine.

rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Jan 16 @ 8:40 PM ET
To date, Michael Handzus has yet to be on the ice for a Patrick Kane even strength goal. He was on the ice for a PP goal or two. But every other goal has been during a line change. Meanwhile, the Corsi numbers between Pirri and Handzus are a wide gap in favor of Pirri.

But this isn't even about Pirri. This is about THE ORGANIZATION'S call ( whether it's Q, Stan, Stan-Q, Mcd, all of the above, who ever....) to cut the rookie's playing down and over relying on veterans.

HellSay what you will about Morin, Pirri, et al...... But when they were here, the Hawks were dominating the league. Since they've been gone ( I'm outta my head, can't take it) they've come back to the pack. Want to blame that all on fatigue? Be my guest. I think it's more than fair to dig a little deeper. Otherwise, feel free to sit around and wait for the next worthless Chris Kuc tweet......

- yahoodi

Since Morin got sent down, which was after Pirri, the Hawks are 7-1-6. So out of 28 possible points, the Hawks have 20, which is a P% of 71%. Before Morin got sent down, the Blackhawks were above .500 in the shootout, since he was sent down, they are 0 and 3. Now Morin never shot, so he obviously has no effect on the results of a shootout. If the Hawks had gone 2 and 1 in the coin flip, they'd be 9-1-4, for 22/28 or 78 P% which would be a league leading pace. But yeah, blame it on fatigue
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 8:41 PM ET
What's the verdict on Versteeg? Is he worth the 2.2M that we're paying him?
- Dieselhead


His production has waned of late, but i like what he brings to the room. He's a pro's pro. And he's improved his puck protection immensely while he's been away.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 8:42 PM ET
That would be Crawford's fault too along with global warming and famine.


- jhawk159


Not to mention the polar vortex
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Jan 16 @ 8:48 PM ET
I put forth these FACTS at the beginning of last blog

Some fun with numbers

Hawks with Pirri 24 games

Record 18-5-3 75% of possible points
PK% 54 out of 70 = 77.1%.
11 pts +6

Without...

12-3-7 70% of possible points
54 out of 70 77.1% yes this is true..
10 pts -1

Twist/turn and justify them all you want, this is what was done.

- TrueGrit

WOOOO shootout wins means Pirri is the best!
CBHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pallie
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jan 16 @ 8:48 PM ET
Isn't that what some people are arguing? Whether it's better or worse?

Stan said all off and pre-season was that the plan was to have the kids play. Just one kid is playing. And Q is riding his veterans. And that would be fine if e was playing ALL his veterans. Kris Versteeg played all of 8 minutes despite being 100% Corsi. 100 percent! While Kris Versteeg was on the ice the Blackhawks shot 12 shots on Varlarmov and not a single shot was registered against Crawford, and yet he rides the pine. Same with Bickell. Which is strange because if you're at these games ( And I've been fortunate to be...) Bickell has been really good on the forecheck. But that hasn't prevented him from going into Q's doghouse.

I think overriding the veterans might prove harmful come April. Of course, I can't prove that until the playoffs.

There was a unanimous feeling among this board that Q should pick some players and stick with them. We argued over who those players should be....Nordstrom, Pirri, Morin.. but they're all in Rockford. Morin is still one of the best hawks in CORSI and drawing penalties, which you think a team based on puck possession and a good PP might want.....Nope. Patrick Kane had his best stretch this year with Pirri as his centerman......nope. Nordstrom had a deer in the headlights look with the Hawks, but from all reports he seem to be excelling at the Rock. But they sit while Handzus wheezes and Bickell and Steeger's ice time melts faster than ice in the sun.

Yes, of course it's not all on Q. But I think we're allowed to have an opinion on whether they're the right moves or not....

- yahoodi


Terrific post. +1111111111111

Love Q, but some of his decisions are just baffling.. especially in regards to Bickell, Versteeg and the revolving door at 2C.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 8:53 PM ET

- Ogilthorpe2

Yes
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 8:55 PM ET
I will only watch women's curling.
- Ogilthorpe2


Man. I don't know what they are yelling but it sounds fun.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 8:57 PM ET
Man. I don't know what they are yelling but it sounds fun.
- Elbows15


Primer on HURRY HARD

http://www.brandchannel.c...es_webwatch.asp?ww_id=469
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 8:58 PM ET
Not to mention the polar vortex

- philco28

Polar (frank)ing vortex/ FFS its called winter. I wanted to slap them every time they said it.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 16 @ 8:59 PM ET
Not to mention the polar vortex

- philco28


Those phucking things hurt! Oh, you're talking about the weather....
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:00 PM ET
Primer on HURRY HARD

http://www.brandchannel.c...es_webwatch.asp?ww_id=469

- philco28


Yeah. I understand. Thanks for killing my attempt at a joke.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:00 PM ET
Polar (frank)ing vortex/ FFS its called winter. I want to slap them every time they said.
- Elbows15


How about the new thing of naming every storm that hits the northeastern US? I wonder what the boys on the Leafs thread think of that one...
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:02 PM ET
How about the new thing of naming every storm that hits the northeastern US? I wonder what the boys on the Leafs thread think of that one...
- mohel


Doesn't matter. They pretty much hate us. LOL
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 9:03 PM ET
Polar (frank)ing vortex/ FFS its called winter. I wanted to slap them every time they said it.
- Elbows15


Cracks me up when i watch the NBC/ABC/CBS news and they lead with stories about cold and snow in phuck'n JANUARY
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:03 PM ET
Well, That was an interesting backread.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Jan 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
Well, That was an interesting backread.
- Elbows15

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
Cracks me up when i watch the NBC/ABC/CBS news and they lead with stories about cold and snow in phuck'n JANUARY

- philco28

(frank) they spend 20 minutes on it. I am not exactly sure when the weather became big news. But it was a death knell of some kind.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:06 PM ET

- UnnamedSource

You should be looking over both shoulders when you leave the house.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 9:07 PM ET
Yeah. I understand. Thanks for killing my attempt at a joke.
- Elbows15


I saw what u was doing there...lol...but isn't reading up women's curling a spiritual experience ?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:08 PM ET
#freeogi. Pretty sure he is banned.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:09 PM ET
I saw what u was doing there...lol...but isn't reading up women's curling a spiritual experience ?

- philco28


No, but watching it is a "moving" experience.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Jan 16 @ 9:09 PM ET
You should be looking over both shoulders when you leave the house.
- Elbows15



that was crazy.......
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 16 @ 9:12 PM ET
that was crazy.......
- UnnamedSource

Escalated pretty quickly.
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