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SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
Like many others, I don't see this trade happening. I dont' doubt Bowman called asking what the price would be, but that's probably as far as it got. Remember, Florida was shopping Versteeg for a long time before Bowman pulled the trigger on that. The asking price Winnipeg wants for Ladd is hilarious.

From a Jets perspective, why would they want Bryan Bickell? Why? Salary is high, he's not a legit top 6 player, he had knee surgery over the summer, and was out how long with another injury to his other knee? No thanks. And before everyone gets on the magical bus tour that has Bryan Bickell scoring all those key playoff goals last year...great. That was a very small sample size for a guy playing for a NEW Contract. You know who also did that once upon a time? Dustin Penner.

The Hawks value picks. Not trading a top pick. The hawks value TT highly. Yeah, Hossa looks good now, but will he look young 2 years from now? Probably not. He will probably be a fringe top 6 player, or great 3rd line player...and I love Hossa. And lets forgot....kane hasn't signed anything yet. I think he and Toews will, but what if Kane wants to go back home and build a winner in Buffalo? It could happen...not likely, but possible.

Hawks need to get their PK in order, find the right combinations and hope that guys like Bickell, Leddy, Handzus, Crawford find their games and consistency.
MDGHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Duesseldorf, Germany
Joined: 06.20.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
Every 4 years.

Industry convention that happens every 4 years. Lasts two weeks, I usually have to go for most of it. Stay at the Renaissance, convenient cab ride to Aldstadt.

- vabeachbear


4 of course, not 10...

Sounds good and everything is pretty close and easy to reach.

So hopefully for you the next convention takes place soon
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
I haven't seen enough of the Ducks, but will see them in person tomorrow night. They are on a tear, and you can't make excuses for why they win. Hawks get a lot of scheduling breaks as well...every team does at some point.

As for the Blues...baring an injury they aren't going anywhere. that's a very dangerous, and great team down there in Missouri.

As far as the recent flame outs for playoffs go...the Blues have gotten back to back years of large physical teams early and often...Sharks/Kings and Kings last year.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
Cool Q and A with The Shift Disturber on the team site

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
Cool Q and A with The Shift Disturber


- philco28



#beauty
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:22 PM ET
#beauty
- DarthKane


Amazing how that scar mirrors The Chief's paint job
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 1:24 PM ET
Somebody pages back had a great post about all the stars from previous runs....I am in 100% agreement on that post. Fantastic job, to whomever you are.

The core will supplemented with cost effective players who as long as they are contributing will be here. THe moment they become too expensive, or drop off, or replaced in house for a cheaper version...they will be gone for picks or prospects to keep the system churning.

Jimmy Hayes and Olsen were expendable because they were blocked by other prospects in the system and guys already on the roster. TT will not be. I don't think Hartman will either...Not sure on the likes of the Hayes or McNeil. Time will tell.

A guy who no doubt will be gone, and it's too damn bad because I think he's finally figuring it out how to be a very solid bottom 6 player is...Brandon Bolig. He's played very well of late, and one of the few who brings the physicality every night.
dan9189
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 06.29.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
I'm way late on this but as far as Ladd goes, I'd love him back but not with TT included in the package. He's probably the one untouchable the Hawks have as far as their prospects go. I also don't think the Hawks would need to include him to make a deal for Ladd. They have other NHL ready/close to NHL ready prospects they can give up.

Winnipeg is a team that needs to start to rebuild and start doing it sooner than later. Since no big time UFA will go there (most likely), the Jets would be smart to acquire young NHL ready/close to NHL ready talent that they would have control over for a number or years. Those players are also more likely to sign extensions there if the team does well over time. Ladd has 2.5 years left on his deal there and will most likely be dealt, I can't see him staying there. Sames goes for Buff, those guys want to win again.

So yes I'd do a Ladd for Bickell plus prospects deal but not with TT in it. Any other combo of 2 prospects works for me.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
I'm way late on this but as far as Ladd goes, I'd love him back but not with TT included in the package. He's probably the one untouchable the Hawks have as far as their prospects go. I also don't think the Hawks would need to include him to make a deal for Ladd. They have other NHL ready/close to NHL ready prospects they can give up.

Winnipeg is a team that needs to start to rebuild and start doing it sooner than later. Since no big time UFA will go there (most likely), the Jets would be smart to acquire young NHL ready/close to NHL ready talent that they would have control over for a number or years. Those players are also more likely to sign extensions there if the team does well over time. Ladd has 2.5 years left on his deal there and will most likely be dealt, I can't see him staying there. Sames goes for Buff, those guys want to win again.

So yes I'd do a Ladd for Bickell plus prospects deal but not with TT in it. Any other combo of 2 prospects works for me.

- dan9189


If you were Winnipeg would you trade Ladd for Bickell?
MDGHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Duesseldorf, Germany
Joined: 06.20.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
Cool Q and A with The Shift Disturber on the team site


- philco28


yeah, great pic and nice video. thx for the hint

Q: "who would you play in a movie"
A: "Stifler in American Pie"
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:29 PM ET
yeah, great pic and nice video. thx for the hint

Q: "who would you play in a movie"
A: "Stifler in American Pie"

- MDGHawk


Kid is ONE OF A KIND
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:30 PM ET
Do you need leadership that much. You have so many players in your system that could do the same job. You need another mid experienced player with talent (defensive game).

Ladd would make more sens in Ottawa because we are young and inexperienced.

Wouldn't hurt Chicago though

- SENSpatriot


I see what you did there
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jan 16 @ 1:34 PM ET
I never had the Fonzie lunch box.....you nerd


Kidding TC...no seriously...i could watch that show forever with no regrets.

- philco28

Yeah u probably had the welcome back, kotter one instead or maybe a remains of the day lunch box. Which movie was that from? I bet nobody guesses
MDGHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Duesseldorf, Germany
Joined: 06.20.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:35 PM ET
Kid is ONE OF A KIND

- philco28


definitely

and typical scene at 1:16, shaw 5' 10 slamming carlson 6' 3 into the boards
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:38 PM ET
Chicago Blackhawks ‏@NHLBlackhawks
Corey Crawford gets the start against the Ducks tomorrow.
#CHIvsANA
steelhead
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.10.2013

Jan 16 @ 1:39 PM ET
Easy fix! Take Zus out and put Pirri in and all the troubles are over! Or maybe the Hawks are having a slump and the coaches and players will work things out.
- paulr


Pirri is hurt. My argument is that both Morin and Pirri could have gotten more work in the first half of a season following a cup. Particularly over Bickell and Zus who have not shown much coming back from their injuries.

One way to work things out is to work the younger players in for energy when there are slumps. Remember Shaw and Saad in 12. I guess Shaw is another rookie that Q played so he obviously can do it if he has to.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:39 PM ET
Yeah u probably had the welcome back, kotter one instead or maybe a remains of the day lunch box. Which movie was that from? I bet nobody guesses
- tomcat24



"Your dreams were your ticket OUT."
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:40 PM ET
definitely

and typical scene at 1:16, shaw 5' 10 slamming carlson 6' 3 into the boards

- MDGHawk


FEARLESS: PERSONIFIED
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:41 PM ET
That is not a good sign for the playoffs either. This roster is losing the OT games. Confidence isn't where it was.
- steelhead


Evidently, 5 on 5 is where this team feels most comfortable - not PK, not 4 on 4, not even PP (which is certainly better than last year).
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jan 16 @ 1:41 PM ET
Tortarella is such an idiot. I can't for the life of me figure out what he is trying to do with this team of whiners, cry babies, finger biters, hair pullers and divers? They are a has been team with a has been coach.
- paulr

Torts wasn't dealt the best hand there....AO had a more set team and he hasn't done much in NY yet either.

Sometimes it's not meant to be, Av's win in OT 3-2. Next stop for Bickell a scratch?
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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 16 @ 1:42 PM ET
Chicago Blackhawks ‏@NHLBlackhawks
Corey Crawford gets the start against the Ducks tomorrow.
#CHIvsANA

- philco28



Good.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jan 16 @ 1:42 PM ET
Nick at Night reruns ! Giv eme Dragnet allllll DAY !!


Bed time used to be 9pm when I was a little Hawks fan , got to stay up till 930pm when Dragnet was on ! LOL

- mrpaulish

Great show it is good to see a lot of these older shows
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jan 16 @ 1:43 PM ET
Easy - Jimmy Howard.
- RickJ



They don't have the depth they have had and when injuries hit ...Trouble.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
Good.
- DarthKane


Maybe, he'll FINALLY get a win.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
Why Q doesn't let Raanta have a few more or even a few in a row seems odd. The guy clearly cannot tolerate rookies. Saad was an extreme exception it seems.
- steelhead


Because Crawford is the starter - will (and should) play most games.

Back-up goalie is for back-to-backs or unusually heavy periods of games.

Which is why some of us (well, me) thought Rasnta would be better served working on his game PLAYING in Rockford.
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