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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Preeettty sure St Louis is trading for Miller
- JAKEw1234


i wonder where he'll end up. he can't stay in buffalo.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Dominoes
- PhillySportsGuy

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
Sidney's a whiny little B, no argument there, but on the spectrum of universally loved to universally despised, he sits a lot closer to the former than 88 ever will.

If I were starting a team from scratch, 88 wouldn't even be the first Flyer I would pick... I wouldn't hesitate to take Clarke over him, if the expressed intent was to elevate teammates and win a Cup.

88 was a great player... but he was self-serving and self-congratulatory to a fault, and that doesn't equate to success.

- Tomahawk


Sure, and quite a few would probably agree with you regarding Clarke (or others) over #88. But that's quite a bit different from the statement about Crosby not just being better than Lindros (a fun debate), but significantly so.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
i wonder where he'll end up. he can't stay in buffalo.
- hammarby31

Or he could. I'd personally trade Miller, who has a lot of value, and stick with Enroth, who is an awesome young goalie. Can't always trust a GM to make the smart decision, though.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
B.Schenn, L.Schenn, 1st to WPG for Byfuglien, Frolik

Thoughts?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
Oiler fans must be frantic. They thought Dubnyk was probably worth 2 firsts.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
?
- PhillySportsGuy


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
You do realize that Crosby is better that Lindros, right? By a healthy margin. And that's before you even take into account how he's elevated his team by bringing out the very best in guys like Dupuis, Kunitz, Colby Armstrong, etc.


(btw, I realize I just lost my membership card)

- Tomahawk


No, he is not. Especially not by a healthy margin.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:18 PM ET
B.Schenn, L.Schenn, 1st to WPG for Byfuglien, Frolik

Thoughts?

- FreshFlyer


Naaaahhhhhh. Others may like it though.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:19 PM ET
Naaaahhhhhh. Others may like it though.
- PhillySportsGuy


Fills a need on the back end, threw in Frolik just because he is a solid 2 way guy,
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
trades going down closed door meetings...dont like this one bit
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
The goalies in this era more than off-set any of that... average SV% is miles ahead of where it was back then.
- Tomahawk


Goalies had huge pads back then too. IMO there where better goalies back then... Roy, Broduer, Kolzig, Burke, Beezer, Richter.....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
Fills a need on the back end, threw in Frolik just because he is a solid 2 way guy,
- FreshFlyer


I'm not a Byfuglien fan, so there isn't really any fair trade that I would accept. I believe your proposal is reasonable, but I just don't like Byfuglien that much.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
B.Schenn, L.Schenn, 1st to WPG for Byfuglien, Frolik

Thoughts?

- FreshFlyer

I might consider that. Maybe take out Frolik from WPG's side, remove LSchenn from our side, add a 3rd/4th going to WPG.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
Dominoes
- PhillySportsGuy


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:22 PM ET
trades going down closed door meetings...dont like this one bit
- PhillaBully


They meet at strip clubs
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 15 @ 3:22 PM ET
I'm not a Byfuglien fan, so there isn't really any fair trade that I would accept. I believe your proposal is reasonable, but I just don't like Byfuglien that much.
- PhillySportsGuy


Sidenote: How badly would WIP callers screw up the pronunciation of Byfuglien's last name?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:23 PM ET
I'm not a Byfuglien fan, so there isn't really any fair trade that I would accept. I believe your proposal is reasonable, but I just don't like Byfuglien that much.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm not crazy about him either, but he would be our best Dman if he came here.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:23 PM ET
Sidenote: How badly would WIP callers screw up the pronunciation of Byfuglien's last name?
- johndewar

Couldn't be worse than listening to them trying to pronounce Lecavalier.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:23 PM ET
They meet at strip clubs
- PhillySportsGuy

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:23 PM ET
Sidenote: How badly would WIP callers screw up the pronunciation of Byfuglien's last name?
- johndewar


They've probably heard of him, but when they read about the trade they'll be like "I thought we got bufflin. Who the (frank) is Byfuglien!?"
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:24 PM ET
Any updates regarding the closed door meeting that was mentioned earlier?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:24 PM ET
I'm not crazy about him either, but he would be our best Dman if he came here.
- JAKEw1234


And how sad is that?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:25 PM ET
Any updates regarding the closed door meeting that was mentioned earlier?
- Streit2ThePoint


Apparently they are having a really hard time about whether to order out for Chinese or Pizza
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:25 PM ET
I'm not crazy about him either, but he would be our best Dman if he came here.
- JAKEw1234


Defenseman who aren't good at defense scare me.
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