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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 14 @ 12:09 PM ET
WTF!?!?
- Scoob


I'm impressed by G's imitation pigeon as well. Very realistic.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 14 @ 12:12 PM ET
I don't think Bolland's going anywhere unless we give up more than Toronto did. Both he and Ott will take significant assets to acquire, and are going to be making $2.5M+ as your 4th line center if we resign them. I'm not so sure Dallas will be selling, so Fiddler may not be available. And I doubt the Rangers will be willing to trade to the Flyers unless it's some stupid overpayment.

Hall's not a top 4C in the league. He's a competent place holder who has a limited skill set and can give you adequate minutes.

- jmatchett383

If Carolina fades I would look to pick up Malhotra, he won't cost much and he's an upgrade over Hall.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 12:13 PM ET
Another good riddance former Flyer.
- Scoob


Amazing that both he and Carcillo scored against the Flyers.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 14 @ 12:13 PM ET
I'm impressed by G's imitation pigeon as well. Very realistic.
- wolfhounds



is that a french canadian insult that i am unaware of?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 12:15 PM ET
Maybe it's an in-joke from when JVR was here.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 14 @ 12:16 PM ET
is that a french canadian insult that i am unaware of?
- -davies-


No but everything sounds more insulting with a French accent
TonyBazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 14 @ 12:17 PM ET
I thought Mez would play with Grossmann and then Gus would go back to partnering Schenn.



I can only imagine how many penalties Ott would get called for as a Flyer. Giving away draft picks to rent a 4th line center is a bad idea for a team that it well away from being a contender like the Flyers. Those guys and their $3 million cap hits won't have a place here next season.

- Feanor


I just threw those names out there as guys that might be available come trade deadline. There's other guys that would be an upgrade over Hall as well...Goc, Stajan, D Moore, Malholtra, Halpern, etc etc. I didn't mean to start a debate on the players I named. You guys were missing my whole point. I think 4th line center is a huge hole on the team and if the Flyers upgraded with anybody similar to the guys I named, they'd be a much more complete team. You say that it's not worth giving up stuff to get a guy like that to rent for the rest of the season because "they're not a contender"? Wow dude, if the Flyers make the playoffs (and they will), then it would totally be worth it to have a rental 4th line center until Laughton steps into that role. You're acting like they'd have to give up a first round pick or a roster player to get somebody like that and that's really far off. Any 4th line center that's a pending UFA at seasons end, could be had for a mid round pick or a prospect, (that isn't one of the top in their system). To say it's not worth it to go get a rental 4th line center is ridiculous. Why wouldn't you wanna improve the team for this year's run? The price wouldn't be high at all.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 14 @ 12:18 PM ET
Amazing that both he and Carcillo scored against the Flyers.
- PLindbergh31


The first game rosehill plays against us, he will score. Rinaldo will pot two
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
The first game rosehill plays against us, he will score. Rinaldo will pot two
- PhillySportsGuy


Impossible. Once they aren't employed by the Flyers, they will be working at a car wash.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 14 @ 12:20 PM ET
I just threw those names out there as guys that might be available come trade deadline. There's other guys that would be an upgrade over Hall as well...Goc, Stajan, D Moore, Malholtra, Halpern, etc etc. I didn't mean to start a debate on the players I named. You guys were missing my whole point. I think 4th line center is a huge hole on the team and if the Flyers upgraded with anybody similar to the guys I named, they'd be a much more complete team. You say that it's not worth giving up stuff to get a guy like that to rent for the rest of the season because "they're not a contender"? Wow dude, if the Flyers make the playoffs (and they will), then it would totally be worth it to have a rental 4th line center until Laughton steps into that role. You're acting like they'd have to give up a first round pick or a roster player to get somebody like that and that's really far off. Any 4th line center that's a pending UFA at seasons end, could be had a mid round pick or a prospect, (that isn't one of the top in their system). To say it's not worth it to go get a rental 4th line center is ridiculous. Why wouldn't you wanna improve the team for this year's run? The price wouldn't be high at all.
- TonyBazz


It would be nice to have a player who can take some of the defensive burden off couturier. Maybe give him a few more offensive zone draws
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 14 @ 12:22 PM ET
Impossible. Once they aren't employed by the Flyers, they will be working at a car wash.
- PLindbergh31



Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 12:24 PM ET
I just threw those names out there as guys that might be available come trade deadline. There's other guys that would be an upgrade over Hall as well...Goc, Stajan, D Moore, Malholtra, Halpern, etc etc. I didn't mean to start a debate on the players I named. You guys were missing my whole point. I think 4th line center is a huge hole on the team and if the Flyers upgraded with anybody similar to the guys I named, they'd be a much more complete team. You say that it's not worth giving up stuff to get a guy like that to rent for the rest of the season because "they're not a contender"? Wow dude, if the Flyers make the playoffs (and they will), then it would totally be worth it to have a rental 4th line center until Laughton steps into that role. You're acting like they'd have to give up a first round pick or a roster player to get somebody like that and that's really far off. Any 4th line center that's a pending UFA at seasons end, could be had for a mid round pick or a prospect, (that isn't one of the top in their system).
- TonyBazz


Paul Gaustad cost Nashville a 1st round pick in 2012. He was a pending UFA that year. After Kubina I'm wary of trading picks for rentals, and this team is farther away than the 11-12 Flyers were from contending.

Not sure why you're so convinced the Flyers make the playoffs. It's looking like a 50/50 proposition right now.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 14 @ 12:24 PM ET
was listening to local sports radio this morning
sharks are playing the caps tonight
apparently the caps let an 8 year old kid that loves hockey, the caps, and holtby practice with the team and the kid even picked a fight with holtby and holtby got punched and went down for the kid
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 14 @ 12:26 PM ET
was listening to local sports radio this morning
sharks are playing the caps tonight
apparently the caps let an 8 year old kid that loves hockey, the caps, and holtby practice with the team and the kid even picked a fight with holtby and holtby got punched and went down for the kid

- 2Real


I thought that was the Canucks
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 12:28 PM ET
Downie isn't playing tonight, and neither is Gustafsson.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 12:30 PM ET
was listening to local sports radio this morning
sharks are playing the caps tonight
apparently the caps let an 8 year old kid that loves hockey, the caps, and holtby practice with the team and the kid even picked a fight with holtby and holtby got punched and went down for the kid

- 2Real


How'd they let that 8 YO Flyers fan into Caps practice?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
Downie isn't playing tonight, and neither is Gustafsson.
- PLindbergh31


I guarantee our fourth line is out for a goal against
TonyBazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
Paul Gaustad cost Nashville a 1st round pick in 2012. He was a pending UFA that year. After Kubina I'm wary of trading picks for rentals, and this team is farther away than the 11-12 Flyers were from contending.

Not sure why you're so convinced the Flyers make the playoffs. It's looking like a 50/50 proposition right now.

- Feanor


Gaustad was also young and having a career season that year. He was considered as more than a 4th line checker rental player back then. Wait, was he a rental at all actually? Didn't they give him a multi year deal? He still plays there right? Lol terrible example bro. The guys I listed are actually 4th line center, gap filling rentals. Not young players enjoying career seasons. Not comparable at all.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
Downie isn't playing tonight, and neither is Gustafsson.
- PLindbergh31



jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
If Carolina fades I would look to pick up Malhotra, he won't cost much and he's an upgrade over Hall.
- BiggE


Absolutely. He's kind of like Betts before he lost his shoulder.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
is that a french canadian insult that i am unaware of?
- -davies-


Maybe that's why JVR didn't react, maybe he just thought Cload was speaking Canadian Frog.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
is that a french canadian insult that i am unaware of?
- -davies-

I think it means JVR only scores by picking up the garbage goals,
i.e. he's like a pigeon
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 14 @ 12:35 PM ET
Downie isn't playing tonight, and neither is Gustafsson.
- PLindbergh31

Ugh
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jan 14 @ 12:35 PM ET
I think it means JVR only scores by picking up the garbage goals,
i.e. he's like a pigeon

- Marc D


This^

I've heard this used many time in hockey circles, along with plug and duster.

EDIT: bender is another as well.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 12:36 PM ET
was listening to local sports radio this morning
sharks are playing the caps tonight
apparently the caps let an 8 year old kid that loves hockey, the caps, and holtby practice with the team and the kid even picked a fight with holtby and holtby got punched and went down for the kid

- 2Real


http://video.nhl.com/vide...onsole?hdpid=49&id=536727

Best part is when he throws Steve Ott out of the faceoff
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