If anything, talk in here was starting to go the opposite - calling for them to trade the vets for more picks/prospects.
- 1979AD

Yeah and we are the most knowing fans.

(frank)in' eh. Although I'd swap Clarkson and Raymond to try and get Clarkson going. If not 5-5, then on the PP.
- 1979AD

I also had the same thought.
I really wanna see the Lupul/Kadri/Clarkson line for a stretch of games.
when i looking at it on paper when we signed him, it looked like a solid line.

Luckily Raymond and Bolland had good chemistry together and I think when he comes back, Raymond will go back down with him

There is also a difference between a treaty and a claim.....most of these bands don't have treaty's and are holding out their hands to be recognized...
- Iggysbff

thats fine and dandy.. but thats just legal nonsense

i'm of the mindset of just give them whatever they want.. however.. i think it should not be paid out in lump sums to the chief.. it should managed by the government and handed to each individual separately... their land was stolen from them afterall and quite frankly, these oil companies have the money.

the biggest issue i have is the chiefs taking these payouts.. and then keeping it for themselves and not distributing it amongst the native population fairly.

Still say we're better with holland somewhere in tool 3 c and mccemment as #4. Mccemment is being overused. Should not be getting 17+mins a night.
- burn

Because his line is always good adn...

Lupul Kadri Kuli played really well last year together.

Yeah and we are the most knowing fans.
- HipHopisDead

Florida Panther fans think we're all Kenny Hollands.

thats fine and dandy.. but thats just legal nonsense

i'm of the mindset of just give them whatever they want.. however.. i think it should not be paid out in lump sums to the chief.. it should managed by the government and handed to each individual separately... their land was stolen from them afterall and quite frankly, these oil companies have the money.

the biggest issue i have is the chiefs taking these payouts.. and then keeping it for themselves and not distributing it amongst the native population fairly.
- Dozzer

Sounds like what has happened in Africa for well... forever... !

Still say we're better with holland somewhere in tool 3 c and mccemment as #4. Mccemment is being overused. Should not be getting 17+mins a night.
- burn

Flip Holland and Kadri - perhaps tinker on the wing by trying some different combo's, but I'd try Bozak, Holland, Kadri, McClement.

I think Toronto's drop in PK is due in part to the amount of ice time McClement gets.

if the government is neglecting a treaty that is wrong.. plain and simple

but yes.. agreed...money greases that wheel pretty damned quick.
- Dozzer

Most of all the treaties are for is so the tribes can cash in they have the right to refuse the use of the land they certainly don't seem to use that right but no problem crying foul later on. Don't like it they can say no but then they don't get the money. Up here there is quite a few native owned companies working on the oil sands so they can't tell me they are over concerned with "their" land if they are participating in the thing they are so against. Why doesn't Neil show all the reclaimed land that is healthier then it was before it was used and reclaimed.

So..
JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Raymond - Kadri - Lupul
Clarkson - Holland- Kulemin
D`Amigo - McClement- Ashton

Better than anything else we`ve tried
- UsernameUnknown

I think its time to flip Raymond's and Clarkson's lines. Perhaps playing on a higher live for a few games might get Clarkson going again. I really hope Holland centres the 3rd line.

Still say we're better with holland somewhere in tool 3 c and mccemment as #4. Mccemment is being overused. Should not be getting 17+mins a night.
- burn

next to bolland he is the best shut down centre the leafs have.

you arent going to put kadri out there against opposition top lines.

and bozak's line will draw the opposition shut down lines..

do you really want a rookie shutting down the lucic's and crosby and ovie's of the league?

this is why bolland is so damn crucial. he's a top flight checking centre. mcclement is serviceable.. but not great.

So..
JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Raymond - Kadri - Lupul
Clarkson - Holland- Kulemin
D`Amigo - McClement- Ashton

Better than anything else we`ve tried
- UsernameUnknown

I'd be confident in that line-up.

Most of all the treaties are for is so the tribes can cash in they have the right to refuse the use of the land they certainly don't seem to use that right but no problem crying foul later on. Don't like it they can say no but then they don't get the money. Up here there is quite a few native owned companies working on the oil sands so they can't tell me they are over concerned with "their" land if they are participating in the thing they are so against. Why doesn't Neil show all the reclaimed land that is healthier then it was before it was used and reclaimed.
- Yeti1181

yes.. but just because one tribe is okay with it doesnt mean the next one is.

their culture is different.. and you cannot force feed them a concept they dont want to swallow.

a recent example was the tribe in BC who nixed the pipeline going through

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/01/12/neil-youngs-misguided-assault-on-alberta-oil-sands/

Peter Foster: Neil Young’s misguided assault on Alberta oil sands doing a disservice to natives
- Fruitcakenipple

Thank you

thats fine and dandy.. but thats just legal nonsense

i'm of the mindset of just give them whatever they want.. however.. i think it should not be paid out in lump sums to the chief.. it should managed by the government and handed to each individual separately... their land was stolen from them afterall and quite frankly, these oil companies have the money.

the biggest issue i have is the chiefs taking these payouts.. and then keeping it for themselves and not distributing it amongst the native population fairly.
- Dozzer

not in all cases

I think its time to flip Raymond's and Clarkson's lines. Perhaps playing on a higher live for a few games might get Clarkson going again. I really hope Holland centres the 3rd line.
- Leafsandbolts

I just can't see it in Clarkson's game. Nothing I see shows me he has anything to his game at this point. Outside of New Jersey, I'm not sure where he fits.

I think its time to flip Raymond's and Clarkson's lines. Perhaps playing on a higher live for a few games might get Clarkson going again. I really hope Holland centres the 3rd line.
- Leafsandbolts

keep reading. You'll get there.

Most of all the treaties are for is so the tribes can cash in they have the right to refuse the use of the land they certainly don't seem to use that right but no problem crying foul later on. Don't like it they can say no but then they don't get the money. Up here there is quite a few native owned companies working on the oil sands so they can't tell me they are over concerned with "their" land if they are participating in the thing they are so against. Why doesn't Neil show all the reclaimed land that is healthier then it was before it was used and reclaimed.
- Yeti1181

Wonder what will happen to all of the oil after we figure out how to engergize the world with Ecoli. Synthetic Biology is the next step boys.

TIMMMMMMMMMMMeh!!!

Amen Mr Leiweke.

Because.... ?
- 1979AD

Pretty easy explanation - you know he wont be signing back for next year
Showcase him for a stretch of games - give him an opportunity to score a few goals - give teams hope that he can get up to that 30 goal level - then trade him at the deadline for something that the leafs can use for the stretch run and into the playoffs and next year

yes.. but just because one tribe is okay with it doesnt mean the next one is.

their culture is different.. and you cannot force feed them a concept they dont want to swallow.

a recent example was the tribe in BC who nixed the pipeline going through
- Dozzer

Each tribe controls their own land and their is only like 3 different tribes up here. The ones that are complaining are the ones in fort chip which is 400km north of the last site. The other ones profit greatly from the sites the ones in fort chip don't hence they are the ones complaining. I'm not blaming the native population but they aren't exactly saints in this either.

not in all cases
- Sammich

if not stolen ripped off.

euros came here and made transactions with a population who had no concept of ownership

that would be like you swinging a deal with a 3 year old.

I'd be confident in that line-up.
- BetterCallSaul

Honestly, I don't care if they get pushed around and beat up anymore. As long as they win some games. I'd rather have Carter "ICan'tFightButISureTry" Ashton than Orr in the lineup. As much as i loved the blue-bombers last year, they suck this year and we need skill to win games, cause toughness ain't workin.

if not stolen ripped off.

euros came here and made transactions with a population who had no concept of ownership

that would be like you swinging a deal with a 3 year old.
- Dozzer

Im in the aboriginal industry, and believe me its all about the $$$$$$

if not stolen ripped off.

euros came here and made transactions with a population who had no concept of ownership

that would be like you swinging a deal with a 3 year old.
- Dozzer

worked out well for us

Each tribe controls their own land and their is only like 3 different tribes up here. The ones that are complaining are the ones in fort chip which is 400km north of the last site. The other ones profit greatly from the sites the ones in fort chip don't hence they are the ones complaining. I'm not blaming the native population but they aren't exactly saints in this either.
- Yeti1181

not at all.. never claimed that either.

but their land is their land. and even if they are far north.. (frank) just pay em off and shut them up

the amount it would cost wouldnt even dent the oil companies profit margin

whats going to happen now is neil young is going to do these concerts.. its going to creat an "awareness" amongst the left and all of a sudden there is going to be political pressure which will result in crazy expensive government regulations being put into place.

in the end.. they should of just paid them to shut up