Why not holland on the wing?

Play your best players the most. End of story.
- burn

some guys dont do well flipping from centre to wing

remember how poorly kadri did

its not always that simple burn, centre and wing are entirely different positions with different jobs and responsibilities on the ice.

Agreed. I think we're using mccemment too much.
- burn

It's settled then - someone send Randy tomorrow nights lineup.

Edit - oops

He can say what he means all he wants it's still bullpoop talk. These people want to sit there and say all this about the oil sands and the bad it does then go live with out. There goes his house, clothing all the CDs he's sold over the years, his power, vehicles (tour buses,planes, stage,stage lights everything) he consumes more then the average person and is sitting their playing the big man trying to save the world he's a (frank)ing hypocrite. They have grand ideas and no solution Christ they are the maple leafs of the real world.
- Yeti1181

Agreed!

in fairness to Neil, he isnt really saying the oil sands are bad.. his issue seems to be the neglect of the long time treaties with the native indians in the area.

and he isnt wrong.. the harper government is neglecting/ignoring long time treaties... and i think that particular part is wrong.

truth is.. the cons likely wont get re-elected.. been too much shiftiness on their part.. its gonna cost them at least their majority

then the funny part will happen.. the left wing party will take office.. have no way of replacing the tax revenue or employment figures generated by the oil sands and it will conveniently become a back burner issue that never gets resolved.
- Dozzer

He compared it to a detonated atomic bomb. He should familiarize himself more with the Alberta bands. All that one is after is a bigger slice of the pie, but they can cry "ahhhhhh treatiez!!!" and the lefty press eats it up.

“I think he(Nonis) spoke very loud and clear this weekend, the issue is not the coach. The issue is our players need to understand, October wasn’t a fluke.” Leiweke said. “We gotta get back to playing the way were then.”

“If you look at the players that we have today, there is no question that we all think that we should be in a better position then we’re in today.”


They have the right players, and they have the right coach. The problem is that the players think their 10-5 start was a fluke, and once we can convince them that it wasn't a fluke, they'll be able to play 10-5 hockey again.

Am I reading that correctly?


- 1979AD

Yup

He compared it to a detonated atomic bomb. He should familiarize himself more with the Alberta bands. All that one is after is a bigger slice of the pie, but they can cry "ahhhhhh treatiez!!!" and the lefty press eats it up.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

if the government is neglecting a treaty that is wrong.. plain and simple

but yes.. agreed...money greases that wheel pretty damned quick.

Same.... I'd also rather Ashton than Orr.
- burn

So..
JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Raymond - Kadri - Lupul
Clarkson - Holland- Kulemin
D`Amigo - McClement- Ashton

Better than anything else we`ve tried

some guys dont do well flipping from centre to wing

remember how poorly kadri did

its not always that simple burn, centre and wing are entirely different positions with different jobs and responsibilities on the ice.
- Dozzer

Don't know till you try.

He compared it to a detonated atomic bomb. He should familiarize himself more with the Alberta bands. All that one is after is a bigger slice of the pie, but they can cry "ahhhhhh treatiez!!!" and the lefty press eats it up.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

http://fullcomment.nation...ult-on-alberta-oil-sands/

Peter Foster: Neil Young’s misguided assault on Alberta oil sands doing a disservice to natives

So..
JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Raymond - Kadri - Lupul
Clarkson - Holland- Kulemin
D`Amigo - McClement- Ashton

Better than anything else we`ve tried
- UsernameUnknown

No doubt.

He compared it to a detonated atomic bomb. He should familiarize himself more with the Alberta bands. All that one is after is a bigger slice of the pie, but they can cry "ahhhhhh treatiez!!!" and the lefty press eats it up.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

greedy bastards

No doubt.
- burn

Although i don`t mind the idea of Holland on a wing either.

if the government is neglecting a treaty that is wrong.. plain and simple

but yes.. agreed...money greases that wheel pretty damned quick.
- Dozzer

There is also a difference between a treaty and a claim.....most of these bands don't have treaty's and are holding out their hands to be recognized...

Same.... I'd also rather Ashton than Orr.
- burn

Oh me too, but I doubt Carlyle is going to roll without a fighter, even though Clarkson can fight too. I wouldn't have Orr in my lineup unless you're playing a really tough team, but that's just me.

So..
JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Raymond - Kadri - Lupul
Clarkson - Holland- Kulemin
D`Amigo - McClement- Ashton

Better than anything else we`ve tried
- UsernameUnknown

(frank)in' eh. Although I'd swap Clarkson and Raymond to try and get Clarkson going. If not 5-5, then on the PP.

Don't know till you try.
- burn

who says they havent in practice?

but alright.. i'll play

which winger does he supplant?

jvr kessel lupul raymond clarkson or kulemin?

Oh me too, but I doubt Carlyle is going to roll without a fighter, even though Clarkson can fight too. I wouldn't have Orr in my lineup unless you're playing a really tough team, but that's just me.
- blahman20

Worst case if not ashton I'd rather see maclaren then orr.

“I understand people are disappointed in the hockey team.” Leiweke said. “But we need to be patient. If people think we are going to freak out here and begin to trade away our good, young kids to go get a 33-year-old veteran….they’re wrong. He(Nonis) won’t do it.

THIS I do like.
- markmark

When in the last bunch of years we've traded the farm for something?
Kessel - was worth it btw and Burke didn't forcast a lotto pick and it still turned out ok.

When in the last bunch of years we've traded the farm for something?
Kessel - was worth it btw and Burke didn't forcast a lotto pick and it still turned out ok.
- HipHopisDead

If anything, talk in here was starting to go the opposite - calling for them to trade the vets for more picks/prospects.

Time to trade Kessel and blow it up.

greedy bastards
- Sammich

Like David Suzuki who was sitting up there with Young?

There are two David Suzukis.

Most of us know one of the Suzukis.
Let's call him Saint Suzuki. That's the Suzuki whose TV show on the CBC
constantly lectures us about our lifestyle. He says we need to consume less,
buy less and use less fossil fuels.

But then there's another Suzuki.
Let's call him Secret Suzuki, because he's far less
well-known.

Secret Suzuki is the one who lives
on Vancouver's elite Point Grey Road, on a double lot, overlooking English
Bay, right above the exclusive Kitsilano Yacht Club. The City of Vancouver
assesses the land value alone at over $8 million. And that's just one of
Secret Suzuki's properties.

He has another million-dollar home
in Vancouver. And then there's another home on Quadra Island. That's three
homes right there, if you count the double lot on Point Grey Road as just
one property.

But then there's his large property
holdings on Nelson Island. What's so fascinating about that one is that he
co-owns the property with an oil company, Kootenay Oil Distributors Ltd.
They don't plan to drill for oil together. It's a beautiful tourist spot -
maybe perfect for a nice big condo development.

Of course, there's nothing wrong
with co-owning any property along with an oil company. But isn't Saint
Suzuki against fossil fuel companies - especially oil
companies?

Saint Suzuki tells us that the world
is desperately overcrowded, that we're overpopulated, and that we're going
to run out of things. But in his own life, Secret Suzuki has five
children.

There's nothing wrong with having
five children. It's a blessing. But then why does he think other people
should have fewer kids?

Saint Suzuki rails against
corporations and profits. He even gave a well-received anti-capitalist
speech at the Occupy Vancouver protest.

But Secret Suzuki himself has
several corporations. One of them, the David Suzuki Foundation, took in a
whopping $9 million last year and has $12 million in assets. More than 10
million of that is invested in stocks and bonds.

Saint Suzuki despises lobbyists, and
says they have a disproportionate control of political power in Ottawa. But
Secret Suzuki himself has nine paid lobbyists registered in Ottawa's
lobbyist registry. Not one. Nine.

Saint Suzuki despises politicians,
and says they can't be trusted. Secret Suzuki starred in a Liberal party TV
ad along with former Ontario premier Dalton McGuinty.

Saint Suzuki says corporations have
to be less obsessed by profits, and do more for the public good. They need
to especially think of the interests of the next generation, our
children.

But Secret Suzuki has made a tidy
profit off young people. His standard speaking fee at universities in Canada
is $30,000 plus expenses. He billed Quebec's John Abbott College a cool
$41,000 to visit them.

Saint Suzuki speaks in the language
of tolerance and equality and liberalism - utterly politically
correct.

But Secret Suzuki engages in conduct
that should cause feminists to raise an eyebrow. When he visited John Abbott
College, his assistant called with special requests to go along with his
speaking fee. Here is an internal e-mail from the college's Mary Milburn:
"We have learned, via Dr. Suzuki's assistant, that although the Dr. does not
like to have bodyguards per se, he does not mind having a couple of ladies
(females) that would act as body guards." The college's Jim Anderson got
involved in selecting the coeds, too: "Please be certain that the women are
nicely dressed, we don't want them in evening gowns, but definitely NOT
Police Tech uniforms." All of this bizarre selection of girls, dressed just
so, was the result of Secret Suzuki's special request. If he were a
conservative, he'd be called a dirty old man. But he's a saint. So the
college went along with it.

David Suzuki is not a criminal. But
he is not a saint. He's a real man - a capitalist millionaire, a politician,
a man with a staff of lobbyists, a prolific father, a wealthy landlord. If
only he'd stop scolding the rest of us for aspiring to do the
same.

This column was written for Sun News
October 13 2013 .

" the issue is not the coach. The issue is our players need to understand, October wasn’t a fluke"

You mean when the goalies had to play out of their mind to get wins?!
- Cooshie

Yeah no kidding - this team is not balanced - plain simple. Too young with too many offensive players

So..
JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Raymond - Kadri - Lupul
Clarkson - Holland- Kulemin
D`Amigo - McClement- Ashton

Better than anything else we`ve tried
- UsernameUnknown

i like this but you know RC likes to have Orr in there

Id be willing to give Kulemin a shot at the 2nd line

who says they havent in practice?

but alright.. i'll play

which winger does he supplant?

jvr kessel lupul raymond clarkson or kulemin?
- Dozzer

Still say we're better with holland somewhere in tool 3 c and mccemment as #4. Mccemment is being overused. Should not be getting 17+mins a night.

i like this but you know RC likes to have Orr in there

Id be willing to give Kulemin a shot at the 2nd line
- MTL1

Because.... ?