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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 12 @ 2:17 AM ET
Think about current roster players who souldnt be playing all you want. This kid has done nothing to perform well. He doesnt hustle. He needs to develop in a lesser league. It should be the AHL. Playing him on a disaster of a team isnt going to help him. Thats a move that CBJ made over and over and over and ETC.

This is clearly about money. This kid wants money. His family is poor. Playing in the Q he gets nothing. This kid should just work it out with the Sabres and head to the KHL for the remainder of the season and come to training camp focused.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 12 @ 2:18 AM ET
This might have been a good argument if we didn't have about four other players that haven't "earned their ice time" and don't happen to be top prospects with loads of potential.
- Herzeleid

You play those dead weights so your youngsters can develop. If you want to be the Blue Jackets. Then go ahead and play all your prospects and let them fade into the mist of prospects hype.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 12 @ 2:22 AM ET
Think about current roster players who souldnt be playing all you want. This kid has done nothing to perform well. He doesnt hustle. He needs to develop in a lesser league. It should be the AHL. Playing him on a disaster of a team isnt going to help him. Thats a move that CBJ made over and over and over and ETC.

This is clearly about money. This kid wants money. His family is poor. Playing in the Q he gets nothing. This kid should just work it out with the Sabres and head to the KHL for the remainder of the season and come to training camp focused.

- poisondhearts37


Very well put . They need to park him a pro league in Europe. Pay him his money . Him playing here is not an option . Lots of people to blame here . Including Grigorenko himself . I don't think it is about the money with the Sabres . I feel they want him to develop properly . For some reason people think it is some sort of conspiracy.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 12 @ 2:24 AM ET
Very well put . They need tom park him a pro league in Europe. Pay him his money . Him playing here is not an option . Lots of people to blame here . Including Grigorenko himself . I don't think it is about the money with the Sabres . I feel they want him to develop properly . For some reason people think it is some sort of conspiracy.
- Maximum Signal

The money part im saying is. Him playing in the Q he makes no money. Him playing in the AHL or the NHL he makes money. Im not saying the Sabres dont want to pay him. Q being the only option since he shouldnt be in the NHL makes it so he makes no money. Something I feel he isnt happy about.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 12 @ 2:39 AM ET
The money part im saying is. Him playing in the Q he makes no money. Him playing in the AHL or the NHL he makes money. Im not saying the Sabres dont want to pay him. Q being the only option since he shouldnt be in the NHL makes it so he makes no money. Something I feel he isnt happy about.
- poisondhearts37



Someone mentioned earlier that once his entry level contract kicked , he got paid no matter where he is. No idea what is in the CBA regarding that.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 12 @ 2:45 AM ET
Someone mentioned earlier that once his entry level contract kicked , he got paid no matter where he is. No idea what is in the CBA regarding that.
- Maximum Signal

Dont think kids in Juniors can get paid professionally. That would be like college players getting money.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 12 @ 2:48 AM ET
Dont think kids in Juniors can get paid professionally. That would be like college players getting money.
- poisondhearts37


College players can't when CHL players get called up . They get their cash . I know that.
notalent
Buffalo Sabres
Location: lake placid, NY
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 12 @ 3:25 AM ET
HOlY Hell,
I have read this blog semi-retardedly for two years...am a dedicated (lifer) Sabres fan and just now realized the sway Garth has over his readers. Okay...fact.....Grigorenko is simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH for the NHL. End of story...quit jocking him....if he goes to the KHL, well, fine......the NHL is the best league in the world and if he quits now............the fact is Cody McCormick can skate circles around him...It took him 7 years to make the NHL. Look at Mike Weber.....how he has battled to even now, be the 6th defenseman. I remember when he came up how completely out of place he looked.......







thisisderrik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jan 12 @ 4:54 AM ET
Your reasoning is horrifying. How is Nolan getting blamed for this? So Nolan picks who's on his team and not the gm? Interesting.

What might you be basing your statement that Nolan doesn't know how to handle young kids on?

Think and do some research before posting.

- bjm1717


How is Nolan getting blamed for this? When he came in to our organization what was the first thing he did? Send Risto, and Zads down.. Nolan does not believe in letting the young guys play and grow into the role, he would rather they play in the AHL or in juniors. I have no problem with those two defense men not being here because we actually have some decent ones. But when our forward lines are as brutal as they are-- you play a guy like Grigo. Don't get so butthurt. What is Nolan your father? You'll be pretty upset when he is gone after next year.
thisisderrik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jan 12 @ 4:56 AM ET
He was given chances . He does not compete . Does not deserve to be here.
- Maximum Signal


When you are given chances with trash like McCormick and John Scott you are not going to succeed. Those two guys should not even be in the NHL, and barely worth a spot on a AHL roster. The fact that both of those guys have dressed for us this year is exactly why we are at the bottom of the standings.
jpd1321
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 01.06.2014

Jan 12 @ 7:20 AM ET
When did this become Nolan vs Grigo. Right now its Grigo vs Grigo, he is a legend in his own mind but hasn't earned anything. He isn't good enough yet, he is defensive liability, terrible on face offs and plays uninspired. The Sabres (Darcy & Lindy) have ruined this kid he won't be an option in the future if this keeps up.
malamute17
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 02.08.2008

Jan 12 @ 7:43 AM ET
When you are given chances with trash like McCormick and John Scott you are not going to succeed. Those two guys should not even be in the NHL, and barely worth a spot on a AHL roster. The fact that both of those guys have dressed for us this year is exactly why we are at the bottom of the standings.
- thisisderrik


http://www.extraskater.co...er/400/mikhail-grigorenko
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jan 12 @ 8:57 AM ET
How is Nolan getting blamed for this? When he came in to our organization what was the first thing he did? Send Risto, and Zads down.. Nolan does not believe in letting the young guys play and grow into the role, he would rather they play in the AHL or in juniors. I have no problem with those two defense men not being here because we actually have some decent ones. But when our forward lines are as brutal as they are-- you play a guy like Grigo. Don't get so butthurt. What is Nolan your father? You'll be pretty upset when he is gone after next year.
- thisisderrik

Here is why. This is a complete rebuild. You play some of the kids get them in teach them the sabres way. Get them used to the speed of the game. Teach top talent how to play in this league. Nolan sent every young kid away and brought up Matt Ellis. Cody Mc and Matt and Scott and Ville and D';Agostini and Omark and Sulzer are not part of the future everyone in the organization knows its a rebuild except Nolan. I wanted Nolan here I was wrong
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jan 12 @ 8:58 AM ET
When you are given chances with trash like McCormick and John Scott you are not going to succeed. Those two guys should not even be in the NHL, and barely worth a spot on a AHL roster. The fact that both of those guys have dressed for us this year is exactly why we are at the bottom of the standings.
- thisisderrik

Cody was waived last year there were tons of claims for him lol
Sandus
Joined: 12.04.2009

Jan 12 @ 9:39 AM ET
Does anyone else appreciate the irony of Garth correcting someone else's spelling and grammar?
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Jan 12 @ 10:49 AM ET
The opportunity that the buffalo sabres have given him is down right laughable putting him on the third or fourth line with players that are not at his skill level is not opportunity. The bufffalo sabres need to put him in better situations so that he can be successful. Has he played with skilled players in the past yes but he need to play with skilled players consistenly so he can become successful.

If you put Crosby with players that have no skill you will get the same result.

- mike13wilkins



I mostly agree that Grigorenko was put in a tough position. But to compare him to Crosby is laughable. Btw have you met Kunitz, and Dupuis?
mike13wilkins
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.03.2011

Jan 12 @ 11:03 AM ET
I mostly agree that Grigorenko was put in a tough position. But to compare him to Crosby is laughable. Btw have you met Kunitz, and Dupuis?
- JCSabs06


No one is comparing Mikhail Grigorenko to Sidney Crosby because the would be laughable. Just saying you're not gonna get a lot from your star players when you put trash next to them even if they're the greatest players.
mike13wilkins
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.03.2011

Jan 12 @ 11:07 AM ET
Cody was waived last year there were tons of claims for him lol
- hafgod


If there were tons of claims on cody why is he a sabre.
mike13wilkins
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.03.2011

Jan 12 @ 11:12 AM ET
Thank you! At least someone has some sense on this site.
- bjm1717


And you're not one of them.
mike13wilkins
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.03.2011

Jan 12 @ 11:16 AM ET
Does anyone else appreciate the irony of Garth correcting someone else's spelling and grammar?
- Sandus


Who cares i did not know that we where gonna be graded on our spelling and gramer just shut the F up and type.
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Jan 12 @ 1:21 PM ET
Ive been saying this for awhile now. Ita nice to know some people have some sense.
- alexthegr8


how about you give an example?

Let me guess, your gonna say Leino or Stafford....man, do you people watch these games? Those two, while not lighting the lamp too often this season, have been playing solid grind it out hockey as of late......THAT is what earns you line promotions, Not some sense of entitlement from a 19 yr. old kid.
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Jan 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
What are you taking about? He hasnt been given any opportunity to prove himself.
- alexthegr8



playing in the NHL for 48games by the time you are 19 YEARS OLD is called OPPORTUNITY
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Jan 12 @ 7:33 PM ET
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