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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 8:42 PM ET
Edler for Kadri + Franson
- Scooby_Doo

Good deal. I would target Lupul or JVR myself
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 11 @ 8:51 PM ET
Boone Jenner - frickin Mike Gillis
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 8:56 PM ET
Boone Jenner - frickin Mike Gillis
- LeftCoaster

golfingsince
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Jan 11 @ 8:58 PM ET

- Bieksa#3


Burn is killing it today.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 9:11 PM ET
Burn is killing it today.
- golfingsince

What's he saying
golfingsince
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Jan 11 @ 9:14 PM ET
What's he saying
- Bieksa#3


Still saying Phaneuf >> Hamhuis

Leafs goalie >> Lu

Stastny would not help the Leafs as he's no better than any of their current players. Same as Bozak, but Bozak is cheaper.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 9:19 PM ET
Still saying Phaneuf >> Hamhuis

Leafs goalie >> Lu

Stastny would not help the Leafs as he's no better than any of their current players. Same as Bozak, but Bozak is cheaper.

- golfingsince

Besides the obvious stats that prove him wrong without question, I guess he has a right to voice his opinion. No matter how inaccurate it is.

Yetis son, Gardinerexpress has become my favorite
Yeti1181
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Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jan 11 @ 9:39 PM ET
Besides the obvious stats that prove him wrong without question, I guess he has a right to voice his opinion. No matter how inaccurate it is.

Yetis son, Gardinerexpress has become my favorite

- Bieksa#3

Not really to argue but what stats prove Hamhuis is better?? I was surprised by Hamhuis addition to team Canada but he's a excellent skater and they need that on the big ice, Phaneuf I knew wasnt going to make it cause of his skating.
golfingsince
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Jan 11 @ 9:45 PM ET
Not really to argue but what stats prove Hamhuis is better?? I was surprised by Hamhuis addition to team Canada but he's a excellent skater and they need that on the big ice, Phaneuf I knew wasnt going to make it cause of his skating.
- Yeti1181


The common theme is that every time the better player wears Blue and White. Burn has a history of this. If half of what his talent evaluations are were accurate, they'd be defending champs.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 9:53 PM ET
Not really to argue but what stats prove Hamhuis is better?? I was surprised by Hamhuis addition to team Canada but he's a excellent skater and they need that on the big ice, Phaneuf I knew wasnt going to make it cause of his skating.
- Yeti1181

Dion is far to much of a maverick. Way to many risky plays resulting in goals against.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:04 PM ET
Eagles are crap.
- Scooby_Doo

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 10:05 PM ET
Past 4 seasons(including this one)
Hammer

18g 80 assists +77 limited pp time plays against other teams/#1 line

Neon

33g 86 assists -6 plays #1 pp minutes and like Hamhuis plays against other teams #1 line

Now give the huge differance in pp opertunity the points are very comparable

Now they both play as the #1 shutdown defender. Those numbers aren't even close.

How again is Dion better then Hamhuis





Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:05 PM ET
Not really to argue but what stats prove Hamhuis is better?? I was surprised by Hamhuis addition to team Canada but he's a excellent skater and they need that on the big ice, Phaneuf I knew wasnt going to make it cause of his skating.
- Yeti1181



Goals against per 60 mins is very low for someone who plays shutdown minutes.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:08 PM ET
Past 4 seasons(including this one)
Hammer

18g 80 assists +77 limited pp time plays against other teams/#1 line

Neon

33g 86 assists -6 plays #1 pp minutes and like Hamhuis plays against other teams #1 line

Now give the huge differance in pp opertunity the points are very comparable

Now they both play as the #1 shutdown defender. Those numbers aren't even close.

How again is Dion better then Hamhuis






- Bieksa#3



Also speaking NHL-wise, I'll also happily use that extra 2.5 million in cap space elsewhere by taking Hamhuis(unless it's for a Booth/Clarkson ).
golfingsince
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Jan 11 @ 10:09 PM ET
IF you are going to use stats in an argument with Burn, it is only allowed if you let him select the stats and the window of time. Therefore, Stastny is no better than Bozak.
Also, I hear today that Bozak makes Kessel and JVR better. Can you imagine if him and Kunitz were on the same line ?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 10:16 PM ET
IF you are going to use stats in an argument with Burn, it is only allowed if you let him select the stats and the window of time. Therefore, Stastny is no better than Bozak.
Also, I hear today that Bozak makes Kessel and JVR better. Can you imagine if him and Kunitz were on the same line ?

- golfingsince



I do find it bizarre, how little they understand. You are annua annually in the lower 1/3 of the league. Yet over that same time are blessed with average to great health as a team. For whatever reason they are full of all stars

They don't seem to understand 70pts and awful without the puck<60 pts and a stud 2 way player. No wonder the GTA is such a drain on the Canadian econamy.
thundachunk
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Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 11 @ 10:16 PM ET
Goals against per 60 mins is very low for someone who plays shutdown minutes.
- Nucker101

Forget the stats who would you want when the game is on the line against the leagues best? Hamhuis was chosen to play for Canada for that reason.
Yeti1181
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Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jan 11 @ 10:18 PM ET
Past 4 seasons(including this one)
Hammer

18g 80 assists +77 limited pp time plays against other teams/#1 line

Neon

33g 86 assists -6 plays #1 pp minutes and like Hamhuis plays against other teams #1 line

Now give the huge differance in pp opertunity the points are very comparable

Now they both play as the #1 shutdown defender. Those numbers aren't even close.

How again is Dion better then Hamhuis






- Bieksa#3


You also have to factor dion is playing for a team that is perennial near the bottom vs perennial president trophy teams. So doubtful the gap would be that big.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 10:18 PM ET
Forget the stats who would you want when the game is on the line against the leagues best? Hamhuis was chosen to play for Canada for that reason.
- thundachunk

Pretty hard for Dion to play against the best players in the league when they're all on his team
Yeti1181
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Edmonton Oilers
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Jan 11 @ 10:19 PM ET
Pretty hard for Dion to play against the best players in the league when they're all on his team
- Bieksa#3

Well we do share sometimes geez.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 10:20 PM ET
You also have to factor dion is playing for a team that is perennial near the bottom vs perennial president trophy teams. So doubtful the gap would be that big.
- Yeti1181

A differance of over 20+/- per yr and u try to say its the team

Their roles are similar. Shut down d man. While playing for a better team would affect it a bit, you have to admit the differance is staggering and rather pathetic
golfingsince
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Jan 11 @ 10:21 PM ET
You also have to factor dion is playing for a team that is perennial near the bottom vs perennial president trophy teams. So doubtful the gap would be that big.
- Yeti1181


Well according to Burn the Leafs have better goaltending, and Gunnarson is better than Hjalmarsson, Bozak is equal to Stastny and so on and so forth. Don't forget Gardiner is worth Del Zotto and a 2015 1st.

How the hell are they near the bottom of the league?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:21 PM ET
Well we do share sometimes geez.
- Yeti1181



You took Raymond.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 10:21 PM ET
Well we do share sometimes geez.
- Yeti1181



Just busting your chops

You seem to have a closer grasp of leaf reality then most of your kind
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 10:23 PM ET
Well according to Burn the Leafs have better goaltending, and Gunnarson is better than Hjalmarsson, Bozak is equal to Stastny and so on and so forth. Don't forget Gardiner is worth Del Zotto and a 2015 1st.

How the hell are they near the bottom of the league?

- golfingsince

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