McClement belongs on the 4th line, but Carlyle is too committed to his vision of old school, shutdown hockey.

He sees his bottom six as defensive types, but you just can't do that with the team we have. We're not built to play the classic trap style from the 90s.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Gotta have the 4th line playing more than 4mins/night

Sounds like Moneyball, and I do really love that movie. I could be swayed.
- Bigzby

Moneyball is great. And advanced stats in baseball are a revelation and very useful for evaluating players.

The problem is - just like with Corsi - it's not a slam dunk; there are many unmeasurable variables that make players effective and teams good.

Beane and Oakland went 100% sabremetrics, and althrough they've been able to consistently field competitive teams with small payrolls, they've never won or made it to the WS.

Teams like Boston, that greatly value sabremetrics, but don't discredit their scouts opinions and gut feelings dominate.

We play again tonight?

(frank) me sideways

Good way to ruin a weekend...back to back floggings!!!!

Wanna have a struggle snuggle? I'll pretend I don't want it...
- SofaKingBored

BDSM Bear says "Don't forget to choose a safe word!"

Moneyball is great. And advanced stats in baseball are a revelation and very useful for evaluating players.

The problem is - just like with Corsi - it's not a slam dunk; there are many unmeasurable variables that make players effective and teams good.

Beane and Oakland went 100% sabremetrics, and althrough they've been able to consistently field competitive teams with small payrolls, they've never won or made it to the WS.

Teams like Boston, that greatly value sabremetrics, but don't discredit their scouts opinions and gut feelings dominate.
- 1979AD

Baseball is *** - 90% if the championships are bought. Soft cap is silly, but baseball is silly anyways!!!!! Go BlueJays Go

#nonerboner
- big_dion

We play again tonight?

(frank) me sideways

Good way to ruin a weekend...back to back floggings!!!!


- Garnie

Dont forget the sunday nighter against the devils

Why is shaken vs stirred such a big deal? I've always wondered... not a martini guy mind you... I pee standing up and all
- SofaKingBored

the composition of gin changes if you "break" the molecules by shaking it in ice.

changes the taste.

BDSM Bear says "Don't forget to choose a safe word!"
- 1979AD

My safe word is "antidisestablishmentarianism"...

the composition of gin changes if you "break" the molecules by shaking it in ice.

changes the taste.
- Dozzer

you (frank)er! you just Google'd that didn't you? That was way too nerdy a response to be just off the cuff...

I'm on to you!

Dont forget the sunday nighter against the devils
- MTL1

weekends over by then

lose away!!!!

Baseball is *** - 90% if the championships are bought. Soft cap is silly, but baseball is silly anyways!!!!! Go BlueJays Go
- Garnie

i wish the jays bought one last season

you (frank)er! you just Google'd that didn't you? That was way too nerdy a response to be just off the cuff...

I'm on to you!
- SofaKingBored

i actually did know that lol

a friend of mine is a bartender.. he explained it to me once.

Gotta have the 4th line playing more than 4mins/night
- MTL1

funny how when we had 4th line guys that could do that, we were in the playoffs.

Gotta have the 4th line playing more than 4mins/night
- MTL1

You've got to get all four lines attacking. We're a counter-punch team, not a Nashville.

I just sick watching this team try to play ultra-conservative hockey, waiting for teams to take the play to us. They're just picking us apart.

Fraser starting over Gardiner is the ultimate sign of what Carlyle believes this team should be. He's dead wrong. We're only going to win with speed and an aggressive forecheck.

I've lost count of how many times in a game that they just dump the puck in and peel off for a line change, or maybe send in one ineffective forechecker. It's just a turnover by a different name.

the composition of gin changes if you "break" the molecules by shaking it in ice.

changes the taste.
- Dozzer

So it goes from tasting like a pine tree, to tasting like a Christmas tree?

Moneyball is great. And advanced stats in baseball are a revelation and very useful for evaluating players.

The problem is - just like with Corsi - it's not a slam dunk; there are many unmeasurable variables that make players effective and teams good.

Beane and Oakland went 100% sabremetrics, and althrough they've been able to consistently field competitive teams with small payrolls, they've never won or made it to the WS.

Teams like Boston, that greatly value sabremetrics, but don't discredit their scouts opinions and gut feelings dominate.
- 1979AD

do you know why that is? it's because Boston can afford to follow traditional evaluation methods. they have about $100 million more budgeted for player salaries. Oakland has no choice but to go dumpster diving.

i have never heard a single advocate of advanced hockey stats state anything about Corsi be an absolute. it's simply saying "if you're possession stats are good, chances are you'll have success. if they're bad, chances are you won't have success." that's it. that's the whole thing.

Baseball is *** - 90% if the championships are bought. Soft cap is silly, but baseball is silly anyways!!!!! Go BlueJays Go
- Garnie

Whether or not you like or hate baseball has anything to do with this. But thanks for sharing anyway, I guess.

i wish the jays bought one last season

- senstroll

They tried, just should't have bought John (frank)ing Gibbons!

Baseball is *** - 90% if the championships are bought. Soft cap is silly, but baseball is silly anyways!!!!! Go BlueJays Go
- Garnie

I don't get why some people are so opposed to owners investing profits in the product they sell.

Would you rather they just cheap out and pocket all that revenue? They're giving the fans what they want.

do you know why that is? it's because Boston can afford to follow traditional evaluation methods. they have about $100 million more budgeted for player salaries. Oakland has no choice but to go dumpster diving.

i have never heard a single advocate of advanced hockey stats state anything about Corsi be an absolute. it's simply saying "if you're possession stats are good, chances are you'll have success. if they're bad, chances are you won't have success." that's it. that's the whole thing.
- DoubleDown

Boston went from worst to first this year after dumping almost $50 mill in salary on two players with excellent advanced stats.

And you should catch up on your Yost.

i actually did know that lol

a friend of mine is a bartender.. he explained it to me once.
- Dozzer

Your wording was still way too nerdy... I believe you that you knew the difference... but molecules and sheeeeit? Come on man... This is Hockeybuzz... even lumplumps wouldn't come up with that geekiness...



They all taste pretty bad though....

So it goes from tasting like a pine tree, to tasting like a Christmas tree?
- sloppyseconds2

When I was in Jamaica, the Sandals resort had a Martini bar... and some of them were actually really good.... most were rancid

You should catch up on your Yost.
- 1979AD

Corsi is a stat, and like any stat, looking at it and nothing else is stupid. You need context. With context, even +/- is useful.

When I was in Jamaica, the Sandals resort had a Martini bar... and some of them were actually really good.... most were rancid
- SofaKingBored

Montego?