1. Dump and chase into our zone. at first I thought it was the players on our team were afraid of taking a hit, but Randy's system actually tells them to not go into the corner first. We are GIVING the other team the chance to play with the puck in our zone. Watch the next time a puck goes in the corner, our D will hang back, let them get the puck, and then try to pin them to the boards. TERRIBLE SYSTEM

2. Once we adjust to the dump game and hang a D back, then they have open space to enter the zone.

3. once in the zone, Toronto plays a collapsing game, so the points are open, take the shot (Phaneuf will probably tip it in for you)

4. Side boards are open, feel free to pass up and down them as all Toronto players are still collapsing in front of the net.

5. Set up one person in the slot in the middle of the collapsing box. They'll be open about 10-15 times per game. Great scoring area!
- ILoveLamp

100% Right, IMO.
1. There's lots of data showing D&C is not nearly as effective as controlled carry into the OZ. Sometimes you have to do it, but as a last resort. It's essentially an unforced turnover.

2. If you're going to D&C, you'd better get two guys on the puck to retrieve it. Otherwise, turnover.

3. Read that piece on LA's success. The key for them is in the neutral zone. Basically, once you've let the opponent into your zone, you've lost your advantage.

4. Collapsing isn't that bad, BUT, you need speedy guys to try to strip the puck or force a poor shot to regain possession.

I would blame DN and RC's player assessment, deployment and strategy for all of this. RC doesn't have the trust of the players, because they know the system doesn't work, and he doesn't know how to recognize the underlying problems.

And the Leafs actually win?
- UsernameUnknown

C'mon...the fantasy has to be a bit believable, or the human brain won't be able to accept it. Didn't you watch The Matrix?

all stems back to the grabovski buy out boys

all stems back to the grabovski buy out boys
- big_dion

Carlyle is a great coach, he simply has a bunch of lazy pieces of garbage skating for him. The tag should be #fireDion because he's a brutally terrible leader. Never have I seen our own Dman help the other team score on us so often.

#FireCarlyle
- SofaKingBored

Wont change much

100% Right, IMO.
1. There's lots of data showing D&C is not nearly as effective as controlled carry into the OZ. Sometimes you have to do it, but as a last resort. It's essentially an unforced turnover.

2. If you're going to D&C, you'd better get two guys on the puck to retrieve it. Otherwise, turnover.

3. Read that piece on LA's success. The key for them is in the neutral zone. Basically, once you've let the opponent into your zone, you've lost your advantage.

4. Collapsing isn't that bad, BUT, you need speedy guys to try to strip the puck or force a poor shot to regain possession.

I would blame DN and RC's player assessment, deployment and strategy for all of this. RC doesn't have the trust of the players, because they know the system doesn't work, and he doesn't know how to recognize the underlying problems.
- Stringer74

100%

I read that article on the Kings. I wish the leafs would use their advanced stats budget on what its intended for instead of new toasters

all stems back to the grabovski buy out boys
- big_dion

on pace for 60P

sure glad we got clarkson

Wont change much
- Fakepartofme

Make us feel better...for a few games.

on pace for 60P

sure glad we got clarkson
- Dozzer

RC really got what he wanted out of that one...Nice call

Wont change much
- Fakepartofme

bs

RC really got what he wanted out of that one...Nice call
- Fruitcakenipple

i hear clarkson is better with toasters

i hear clarkson is better with toasters
- Dozzer

and water bottles.......

and water bottles.......
- Fruitcakenipple

jesus ... we're paying five plus for a damned trainer

Wont change much
- Fakepartofme

there are plenty of examples of coaching changes that turn teams around
I hate to use is Ottawa.. Clouston to Mclean ..that might have made a little difference.

100% Right, IMO.
1. There's lots of data showing D&C is not nearly as effective as controlled carry into the OZ. Sometimes you have to do it, but as a last resort. It's essentially an unforced turnover.

2. If you're going to D&C, you'd better get two guys on the puck to retrieve it. Otherwise, turnover.

3. Read that piece on LA's success. The key for them is in the neutral zone. Basically, once you've let the opponent into your zone, you've lost your advantage.

4. Collapsing isn't that bad, BUT, you need speedy guys to try to strip the puck or force a poor shot to regain possession.

I would blame DN and RC's player assessment, deployment and strategy for all of this. RC doesn't have the trust of the players, because they know the system doesn't work, and he doesn't know how to recognize the underlying problems.
- Stringer74

Funny thing is, the system work last season and everybody loved him for it, but people didnt like his personel decisions and still dont (totally agree). At the beginning of the season, most of the people on here calling for Carlyles head were the ones loving how the leafs played, and would scoff at anyone who pointed out the shots on net or possession stats and they freaked out on anyone who said this team would fall apart, and this team had no leadership.

But now...its all Carlyles fault.

i hear clarkson is better with toasters
- Dozzer

Nope....he police's the water bottle......and should be doing it for the Marlies.

Loops has 2 less fights than Orr this year lmao

i hear clarkson is better with toasters
- Dozzer

As you guys mentioned weeks ago. Clarkson obviously benefitted from a sound controlled system as most decent players would...are his struggles directly related to Carlyle's coaching. Hard to say for sure, but I'm thinking it may.

You guys aren't tired of toaster jokes yet? No-one is proud of you for watching 24/7 and referencing it. The leafs haven't looked this flat since the JFjr Days. It's a disgusting blend of complacent laziness on both parts. The leash has to be getting thin for Randy though, I mean he doesn't even really change up lines despite 2(3) months of garbage showings. Merde.

Funny thing is, the system work last season and everybody loved him for it, but people didnt like his personel decisions and still dont (totally agree). At the beginning of the season, most of the people on here calling for Carlyles head were the ones loving how the leafs played, and would scoff at anyone who pointed out the shots on net or possession stats and they freaked out on anyone who said this team would fall apart, and this team had no leadership.

But now...its all Carlyles fault.

- Fakepartofme

I blame Bernier.

Loops has 2 less fights than Orr this year lmao
- Bigzby

And from what we've seen...he shouldn't be fighting. Semin would give him a challenge.

there are plenty of examples of coaching changes that turn teams around
I hate to use is Ottawa.. Clouston to Mclean ..that might have made a little difference.
- senstroll

Great....in the short term yes.
This is pretty much the same team that overachieved last year......its also pretty much the same core guys that played well for a bit under Wilson (run and gun) and then completely collasped several times.

You see a trend here?
Bring in a new coach....and they'll play a little better for maybe the rest of the season.
Then they'll completely fall apart again.....and everyone will be back to blaming the coach.

Forget about the players, forget about the complete lack of leadership and pride in their game.

As you guys mentioned weeks ago. Clarkson obviously benefitted from a sound controlled system as most decent players would...are his struggles directly related to Carlyle's coaching. Hard to say for sure, but I'm thinking it may.
- Woderwick

Clarkson benefitted from Parise and Elias.

As you guys mentioned weeks ago. Clarkson obviously benefitted from a sound controlled system as most decent players would...are his struggles directly related to Carlyle's coaching. Hard to say for sure, but I'm thinking it may.
- Woderwick

he gets all his points from being a net presence, plain and simple

if there is little to no o zone puck possession he becomes rather moot.