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Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 10 @ 7:58 PM ET
Yeah! Who cares about PCS and the hundreds of lawsuits! I need more violence!
- PhillySportsGuy


The players don't have to play the game. They CHOOSE to play. Without violence, sports would be like watching wing bowl.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:02 PM ET
The players don't have to play the game. They CHOOSE to play. Without violence, sports would be like watching wing bowl.
- Flyersgod


Some call it wussification, others call it education.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 10 @ 8:04 PM ET

- MBFlyerfan


Oh man... I'm that guy that can't turn or stop! Never seen a youtube clip so dead on before.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 10 @ 8:05 PM ET
Some call it wussification, others call it education.
- PhillySportsGuy


Education is warning the players of the dangers, and allowing them to choose not to play and make millions of dollars and score some of the hottest women on earth. Or hey, you know, they could always work the drive through window at McDonalds and maybe bang the fry girl on the weekends.

I'll take the brain damage. All day long.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:08 PM ET

Coburn>Buff
Morin Laughton Simmonds 2 firsts > Shea Weber

- Winning

i dont know if i agree with the second one.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:09 PM ET
Education is warning the players of the dangers, and allowing them to choose not to play and make millions of dollars and score some of the hottest women on earth. Or hey, you know, they could always work the drive through window at McDonalds and maybe bang the fry girl on the weekends.

I'll take the brain damage. All day long.

- Flyersgod

how hot is the fry girl?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:11 PM ET
i dont know if i agree with the second one.
- stayinthefnnet


Laughton Simmonds and Morin would each fetch a 1st round pick. That would make 5 first round picks.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 8:12 PM ET
Laughton Simmonds and Morin would each fetch a 1st round pick. That would make 5 first round picks.
- PhillySportsGuy


And the draft you want them to be in is 2015 & that will be a deep draft. Keep them & develop them
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:12 PM ET
Laughton Simmonds and Morin would each fetch a 1st round pick. That would make 5 first round picks.
- PhillySportsGuy

would you value laughton/morin combo over brayden schenn?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:13 PM ET
And the draft you want them to be in is 2015 & that will be a deep draft. Keep them & develop them
- ob18


I think it would be fun for teams to trade 1st round picks straight up before the season starts. Like a competition.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 8:14 PM ET
I think it would be fun for teams to trade 1st round picks straight up before the season starts. Like a competition.
- PhillySportsGuy


How would that be fun
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:15 PM ET
would you value laughton/morin combo over brayden schenn?
- stayinthefnnet


Probably not. Schenn is already a top 6 forward. Laughton would be a 4th line center right now. Morin is a long way away. Schenn is the more proven commodity, so his value is higher. Morin has a lot of volatility. Laughton is a pretty safe bet to be a very good defense center man who can score at least 40-50 points.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:15 PM ET
How would that be fun
- ob18


You'd be going all in! Banking on your team to finish ahead of another.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:15 PM ET
Laughton Simmonds and Morin would each fetch a 1st round pick. That would make 5 first round picks.
- PhillySportsGuy

the whole voracek/couturier/schenn and two first thing was too much even for weber. but two of the forwards and 2 firsts to me, while maybe too much to make it worth it, seems like right around fair value for the superstar d.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 8:16 PM ET
You'd be going all in! Banking on your team to finish ahead of another.
- PhillySportsGuy


ummm okay
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:18 PM ET
how hot is the fry girl?
- stayinthefnnet

Not as hot as the models these guys are banging...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:19 PM ET
the whole voracek/couturier/schenn and two first thing was too much even for weber. but two of the forwards and 2 firsts to me, while maybe too much to make it worth it, seems like right around fair value for the superstar d.
- stayinthefnnet


Yea. I've never been a fan of trading multiple players for 1 player. I'd rather have two 2nd line players than one top line player. (Unless the top line player is a superstar). I believe depth wins in the current NHL. Having a great top line is good but having 3 good, two way lines is better.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:19 PM ET
Probably not. Schenn is already a top 6 forward. Laughton would be a 4th line center right now. Morin is a long way away. Schenn is the more proven commodity, so his value is higher. Morin has a lot of volatility. Laughton is a pretty safe bet to be a very good defense center man who can score at least 40-50 points.
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah thats about where i would be with it as well. so substitute schenn for the other two. i would have done schenn, simmonds, and two firsts for weber if i was homer. definitely a tough, painful call to make. but i think i would have. that supposed third forward that was being called for would have been enough to make me balk though
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:20 PM ET
Not as hot as the models these guys are banging...
- FlyersGrace

haha im sure. hey, was just trying to give some average ladies a chance!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:20 PM ET
Education is warning the players of the dangers, and allowing them to choose not to play and make millions of dollars and score some of the hottest women on earth. Or hey, you know, they could always work the drive through window at McDonalds and maybe bang the fry girl on the weekends.

I'll take the brain damage. All day long.

- Flyersgod


So you'd risk your brain in order sleep with attractive women and make millions?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:24 PM ET
yeah thats about where i would be with it as well. so substitute schenn for the other two. i would have done schenn, simmonds, and two firsts for weber if i was homer. definitely a tough, painful call to make. but i think i would have. that supposed third forward that was being called for would have been enough to make me balk though
- stayinthefnnet


Maybe. It's a ton to give up and you're assuming a ton of risk. You're putting all your eggs in one basket. They got burnt by the Pronger deal.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:25 PM ET
Yea. I've never been a fan of trading multiple players for 1 player. I'd rather have two 2nd line players than one top line player. (Unless the top line player is a superstar). I believe depth wins in the current NHL. Having a great top line is good but having 3 good, two way lines is better.
- PhillySportsGuy

i understand. im typically inclined to agree. but in this scenario, weber IS that superstar. he's still young enough to give id say at least 5 more solid stud years minimum.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 10 @ 8:28 PM ET
Oh man... I'm that guy that can't turn or stop! Never seen a youtube clip so dead on before.
- Flyersgod


Hey stripes get off your knees you're blowin the game aye!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 8:30 PM ET
Maybe. It's a ton to give up and you're assuming a ton of risk. You're putting all your eggs in one basket. They got burnt by the Pronger deal.
- PhillySportsGuy

hundred percent agree. its a ton of risk. but to me, the pronger deal is a deal you make any time you can. injury was horrible luck. you guys got to the finals. to me, weber could be that springboard again. and i believe weber is younger than when you guys got pronger? not a hundred percent offhand, but that makes it even better.

there definitely is no right/wrong answer with that much value involved on either side. i just think i would have. if you moved schenn/simmonds. you still have giroux/voracek/couturier to be your forward studs. weber is as advertised. top 5 dman in the league. not only does he bring himself, but he enables everyone else to take a step back. coburn can be an awesome second pairing guy instead of being counted on as the main guy. the entire d improves.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 8:35 PM ET
After 2

Rimouski - 4
Québec - 3

No points for Morin
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