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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:37 AM ET
Shea Weber will never be a Philadelphia Flyer.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
ding ding ding. He also tallied a whopping 0 hits
- Just5



that is more alarming actually. 0 hits?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
Guess you can't be happy when your team turns a corner anymore, no matter how small.
- funmaster18


I'm enjoying watching the games much more. But I'm not going to be a blind bandwaggon fan either. I still see the flaws on this team. Its a double edged sword. While they play good, i enjoy watching them, but I also know while they are playing good they arent going to make any moves to improve the team's future. If they were losing, you can bet they would be looking to make the moves to improve the teams problems. Its really maddening.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
I'm enjoying watching the games much more. But I'm not going to be a blind bandwaggon fan either. I still see the flaws on this team. Its a double edged sword. While they play good, i enjoy watching them, but I also know while they are playing good they arent going to make any moves to improve the team's future. If they were losing, you can bet they would be looking to make the moves to improve the teams problems. Its really maddening.
- youarewrong


Short term future or long term future? I don't know what big moves you want them to make. The Preds aren't trading Weber or Jones for Read, Simmonds, Laughton and Gus.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
What happens when the top line becomes ineffective with Vinny?
- PhillySportsGuy


You mean if. There is no guarantee of that. I think if anything, the way Giroux and Voracek are playing, they help VLC get his game back. Especially after the Olympic break.


youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
Why is it that Simmonds is consider hot?

Simmer put up 28 goals in 2011-12
Last year he was on pace for 29.
This season? 28.

Thats about as consistent a player as you can get.

- jak521


Simmonds gets hot and cold inside the season. Much like Briere did. Or dont you watch.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
that is more alarming actually. 0 hits?
- nastyflyergirl

I think he needs to realize that he will never be anything more than a grinder/4th line tough guy.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
Shea Weber will never be a Philadelphia Flyer.
- Pixote Andolini

Just Stop.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
that is more alarming actually. 0 hits?
- nastyflyergirl


He's had a rough year. I feel like everyone sees it but Berube
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
Watched that OT goal from last night over and over again... I am absolutely AMAZED that Grossmann had that type of play in him. That was amazing. Wow
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:47 AM ET
Short term future or long term future? I don't know what big moves you want them to make. The Preds aren't trading Weber or Jones for Read, Simmonds, Laughton and Gus.
- PhillySportsGuy


They need someone that can be a number 1 puck moving defenseman for the next 5-10 years. At minimum 5 years until we see what we have with Ghost, Alt, Konin, and Morin. At most 10 if we get someone younger.

And we need a sniper.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
Simmonds gets hot and cold inside the season. Much like Briere did. Or dont you watch.
- youarewrong

Nah.. stopped watching, glad you picked up on that one chief.

All players go through more or less productive patches. Even Giroux (I think.. ya know.. I havent been watching).

The point is, whenever a player is more productive people climb out of their dark dank holes and preach to anyone that wants to read how that player should be traded while they are still "hot".

Now, If you are correct, and Simmonds gets real hot and real cold, and you.. a poster on HBuzz can see this.. why would ANY GM in their right mind be willing to trade for the guy (and give up huge assets) while he is hot. Dont they know he is gonna get cold again?

Or maybe- again I dont know, I stopped watching- Simmonds will forever be red hot and land us a combo of Pietrangleo and Oshie?!
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:49 AM ET
I'm enjoying watching the games much more. But I'm not going to be a blind bandwaggon fan either. I still see the flaws on this team. Its a double edged sword. While they play good, i enjoy watching them, but I also know while they are playing good they arent going to make any moves to improve the team's future. If they were losing, you can bet they would be looking to make the moves to improve the teams problems. Its really maddening.
- youarewrong


Outside of the blackhawks every team has flaws. The flyers aren't as bad as you think.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:50 AM ET
They need someone that can be a number 1 puck moving defenseman for the next 5-10 years. At minimum 5 years until we see what we have with Ghost, Alt, Konin, and Morin. At most 10 if we get someone younger.

And we need a sniper.

- youarewrong


They don't need a sniper. It would be a luxury. They are scoring 3.3 goals per game over the last 30 games. That would rank 4th in the NHL.

You can't get a number 1 puck moving defenseman without gutting the roster. It's better to just play through this and hope some of the young guys can come up and deliver.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 8 @ 11:51 AM ET
Outside of the blackhawks every team has flaws. The flyers aren't as bad as you think.
- twotoekenn

I stopped watching when they were 1-7... Have they improved?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:52 AM ET
Outside of the blackhawks every team has flaws. The flyers aren't as bad as you think.
- twotoekenn


Even the Blackhawks have flaws. Every team has flaws
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:55 AM ET
I'm enjoying watching the games much more. But I'm not going to be a blind bandwaggon fan either. I still see the flaws on this team. Its a double edged sword. While they play good, i enjoy watching them, but I also know while they are playing good they arent going to make any moves to improve the team's future. If they were losing, you can bet they would be looking to make the moves to improve the teams problems. Its really maddening.
- youarewrong


No one proclaimed a SC contender. There is nothing wrong with enjoying their success and turnaround while balancing their true expectations and needs. I believe holmgren always looks to improve the team whether they are winning or losing. Winning games and playing better is not a bad thing, it shows progress.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:58 AM ET
Simmonds gets hot and cold inside the season. Much like Briere did. Or dont you watch.
- youarewrong


That's why there are other players on the team. Ya know? So when some guys get cold others can pitch in.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 8 @ 11:58 AM ET
No one proclaimed a SC contender. There is nothing wrong with enjoying their success and turnaround while balancing their true expectations and needs. I believe holmgren always looks to improve the team whether they are winning or losing. Winning games and playing better is not a bad thing, it shows progress.
- funmaster18

The thing that has given me the most excitement is they're getting secondary and tertiary scoring.

That and the amount of poise they have had over the past month
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:59 AM ET
Even the Blackhawks have flaws. Every team has flaws
- PhillySportsGuy


Now that they've gotten kane a personal chauffeur I don't think so.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:00 PM ET
This team is finally playing well and you people still find someone to female dog about?

Even Plind thinks this outrageous.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 8 @ 12:00 PM ET
The thing that has given me the most excitement is their getting secondary and tertiary scoring.
- jak521


But it's holding them back from a good draft pick...
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 8 @ 12:02 PM ET
I think the couple years that the flyers were set back by with the choice of getting younger is starting to pay off. The Schenns and couturiers of the team are inching closer to where we need them to be. It's taking time, but we all knew it would.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 8 @ 12:03 PM ET
But it's holding them back from a good draft pick...
- funmaster18

Only way to draft a #1 d-man... top 3 pick
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:03 PM ET
Any news on Matt Read playing tonight?>
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