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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
I thought Giroux was the best player in the world.
- Moose_15



Which clearly explains why they didn't pick him for the Olympics...two best players = 1 rosehill..

mind blown...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
There goes Jagr's plan to get Giroux Czech citizenship by next week!
- BiggE

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
So why couldn't coots represent the US if he choose too later on?
- Yosimar89

I'm sure he can. IIRC Brett Hull had the same option.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
Would you trade Giroux and Voracek for Crosby and Neal?
- PhillySportsGuy

As long as I had a pacifier for Crosby and a trade partner for a #1 D for Neal. Probably.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
Actually, in Nedved's case, an exception is made because there was no Czech Republic when he played for Canada. The fall of communism and his defection from Czechoslovakia meant he couldn't play for that nation, so he used his Canadian citizenship to play for Canada.

After the formation of the Czech Republic, he and others were permitted to reclaim their nation for international play.

However, under IIHF & Olympic rules, a player can only play for one country in their sanctioned events-which means that once a guy plays for a country, that's it. Which is why Couturier is ineligible for the US, despite dual citizenship

- Jsaquella

Okay thanks! That clears that up. I totally forgot that it was Czechoslovakia still in 1994.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 8 @ 8:29 PM ET
Which clearly explains why they didn't pick him for the Olympics...two best players = 1 rosehill..

mind blown...

- opeth_pa



Being glib.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:30 PM ET
I realize that but didn't Jsaquella say that once you play for one country the IIHF does not allow you to play for a different country?
- Cable2k

Got me but there have been plenty of Olympic athletes that have competed for more than one country. It isn't hard to find them. I have no idea what influence the IIHF has over hockey rosters if they have any or total.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:30 PM ET
I'm sure he can. IIRC Brett Hull had the same option.
- mayorofangrytown

I don't think Hull had ever previously played in an I IIHF event.
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:31 PM ET
Really don't understand Canada's love affair with Roberto Luongo. Remember at the last Olympics how poorly he played? Brodeur had to come in and bail him out.
- Pixote Andolini

Other way around my friend did you watch the final?
Roberto Luongo 5 1.75 0.927 5 0 1 308 0 0 0 0
Martin Brodeur 2 2.90 0.867 0 1 0 124 0 0 0 0
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:31 PM ET
I'm sure he can. IIRC Brett Hull had the same option.
- mayorofangrytown


Hull had the option, but he chose the US. Once you choose, you're stuck. Couturier played for Canada in the WJC, so he is Canadian.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 8 @ 8:32 PM ET
always feels good to beat the le boo hoos
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:32 PM ET
Actually, in Nedved's case, an exception is made because there was no Czech Republic when he played for Canada. The fall of communism and his defection from Czechoslovakia meant he couldn't play for that nation, so he used his Canadian citizenship to play for Canada.

After the formation of the Czech Republic, he and others were permitted to reclaim their nation for international play.

However, under IIHF & Olympic rules, a player can only play for one country in their sanctioned events-which means that once a guy plays for a country, that's it. Which is why Couturier is ineligible for the US, despite dual citizenship

- Jsaquella

I didn't realize the IIHF had so much control over Olympic Hockey rosters.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 8 @ 8:33 PM ET
always feels good to beat the le boo hoos
- 2Real



Bien sur.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:33 PM ET
Got me but there have been plenty of Olympic athletes that have competed for more than one country. It isn't hard to find them. I have no idea what influence the IIHF has over hockey rosters if they have any or total.
- mayorofangrytown


The IIHF basically says, for it's sanctioned events, that once you represent a nation that is the nation you're playing for, Period.

Nedved gets the exemption because he defected from the Communist regime. Hull could have chosen Canada, but didn't-and as soon as he played for the US, he no longer had a choice. Ditto for Couturier, playing for Canada in the WJC
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:36 PM ET
A chance to get the best player in the world who is a proven winner?

I love watching Giroux and Jake play but I will drive them both to Pitts.

- opeth_pa



I would trade any two Flyers for Crosby. Take your pick.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 8 @ 8:36 PM ET
Cmon boys, get those feet moving
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:37 PM ET
The IIHF basically says, for it's sanctioned events, that once you represent a nation that is the nation you're playing for, Period.

Nedved gets the exemption because he defected from the Communist regime. Hull could have chosen Canada, but didn't-and as soon as he played for the US, he no longer had a choice. Ditto for Couturier, playing for Canada in the WJC

- Jsaquella

Okay, I gotcha and believe you. I didn't realize the IIHF controlled Olympic hockey to that extent.

Movement isn't that uncommon in other sports. I think you just need a note from your mom.
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 8 @ 8:37 PM ET
hall and streit on a 2 on 1 down low
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:37 PM ET
I would trade any two Flyers for Crosby. Take your pick.
- MBFlyerfan

I'd want four.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 8 @ 8:38 PM ET


Has anyone been watching Giroux's minutes tonight? Can't let him get above 21.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 8 @ 8:38 PM ET
Okay, I gotcha and believe you. I didn't realize the IIHF controlled Olympic hockey to that extent.

Movement isn't that uncommon in other sports. I think you just need a note from your mom.

- mayorofangrytown


I think the people who run the IIHF must be the same folks who brought us the NCAA
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 8:39 PM ET
Has anyone been watching Giroux's minutes tonight? Can't let him get above 21.
- Moose_15


mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 8 @ 8:39 PM ET
I think the people who run the IIHF must be the same folks who brought us the NCAA
- BiggE

Maybe they share offices with those nutty cycling people.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 8:40 PM ET
I think the people who run the IIHF must be the same folks who brought us the NCAA
- BiggE


Is the US the only country that has kids compete while attending college?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 8:40 PM ET
Maybe they share offices with those nutty cycling people.
- mayorofangrytown


No. The Cycling people share an office with the Pharmaceutical company.
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